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orangeblobman
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12/25/2009  10:13 PM
What are you bewildered about, Fat Pig? This guy had how many chances? First to come into shape (last year and this year) and he couldn't do it, then he to be controlled like a little kid and forced to earn, or attempt to earn, his 12m salary, and then he couldn't stay on the court for more than 10 minute without injuring something, and now he's bewildered? He doesn't know if coach will decide if he can fit this offense?

I have no more time for this garbage. Curry needs to be sent away from the team so he can make love to men somewhere. There is no chance he can be traded, it's all over.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/25/2009  11:56 PM
The live of gay-athlets is tuff...
Why you want to embarrass them even more making Eddy one of them?
They not deserve this kind of unfair treatment...
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12/26/2009  1:00 AM
Curry has been very frustrating and the trade has hurt the Knicks alot. However, he has been through alot this past year and it appears that he has worked hard to get into game shape. Eddy can play and is a tremendous athelete when in shape. I think he is a guy that needs alot of praise and encouragement. When he was allowed to be a teammate he was very well liked and guys rallied around him. Eddy has been given lots of chances and earlier this year I predicted he would never play for the Knicks again. That being said Walsh set up a program to get Eddy in game shape and Eddy followed through. Unfortunately Eddy plays for a guy that doesn't want a post presence in his offense. I think Eddy should be getting some minutes especially if the goal is to trade his contract. I don't believe the Knicks have a shot at making the playoffs and setting a rotation to attempt to sneak into the 8th seed doesn't make sense when you consider the public plan of the GM. It appears to me that there is some differences in the goals of the coach and the gm. Nate, Eddy, and even the way Al is being used in my opinion are different from how Walsh wants them to be used. The lack of minutes for Hill and Douglas I am sure is different from what Walsh envisioned. It appears that this is occurring because d'antoni thinks the Knicks have a shot at the 8th seed if they can get 30 or more wins. While I am glad that D'Antoni has become less rigid with his system I still think his ego is influencing his rotation and his goals are not based on what is best for the long term success of the team. I also think that he and Walsh are on a different page or minimally need to have a conversation about what the goals are for the team now and in the future.
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12/26/2009  3:53 AM
When Curry is in the game, he looks terrible, and the team plays terrible also. It was just too bad to handle to have him in there. Every time Curry would get into the game, everything would fall apart. It was getting embarrassing, that is why they stopped playing him.

Whatever happened to Curry I don't know, but he is no longer a capable basketball player. He simply no longer belongs at this level.

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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12/26/2009  6:38 AM
It's a tough spot. It seems the only way to even attempt to get some trade value for Curry is to totally destroy this season, lose maybe 15 games in a row, and then you're still not guaranteed that you can move him. There's about 2 months before the deadline, it's do or die, I think it's die for the Knicks. I understand there could be some confusion about how each man wants to use the players, but I wouldn't fault MDA or Walsh for the situation. Hey, Curry comes in last year in shape, bam, that was the true throwaway season. But no. And you hire a guy to do a job, he is doing it, so you can't fault MDA for coaching to win. And you can't fault Walsh for the roster, because this is a cluster**** of much greater proportion than I ever imagined. Thanks Isiah.

But I'm not buying that personal problems thing. Curry's personal problems are a direct reflection of his personality and the way he has chosen to live his life up to this point. You reap what you sow. Whatever, the worst part is that he's on the books for another year, at a huge sum, and I hope he can live with knowing that he personally is a huge reason why the Knicks are crippled in the coming off-season.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/26/2009  8:29 AM
What a unique thread title, "Curry bewildered". Not "Curry Ashamed", or "Curry Disgusting". Now I guess its' everyone else's fault how his life is going, or that he can't break into the line-up. This has all the makings of a 'Marbury Moment'.
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12/26/2009  9:10 AM

From the Post's Blog: this guy just about sums it up. Cosign.

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12/26/2009 4:56 AM

OF COURSE Curry won't opt out of the last year (2010-11) of his contract. NO TEAM is going to give him anything close to the $11+mil he's owed by NYK.

Eddy Curry is a piece of work. He's was FINALLY healthy and ready to play earlier in the season, but he tells the press that he DOESN'T want to come back too soon and ruin the "team chemistry" (team chemistry, lol...right in the middle of a 1-9 start). But D' puts him in, he has one decent game, starts back-sliding and then (conveniently) tweaks his knee for the zillionth time. He rehabs yet AGAIN, gets back on the floor and immediately bogs down the offense.

So Eddy's back on the bench, the team has started winning, there actually IS good team chemistry for once, and NOW Eddy (the current winning and team chemistry be d*amned) is whining about his playing playing time and asking for a trade.

Eddy Curry, you are a joke of a professional athlete. Stay on the bench, collect your million$ and STFU.

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12/26/2009  9:30 AM
This is the type of mentality we are trying to rid ourselves of.
I just hope that people will like me
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12/26/2009  9:40 AM
Curry wants the Knicks to let him go, which is fair, because the only thing he can do to make himself an nba player again is to get a fresh start. So i'm sure the Knicks would love to let him go if he gives up about half his contract, anything to get rid of some 2010 dollars. but i doubt Curry would do it because that's just the type of person he is. All talk, but won't do anything to help the situation.
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12/26/2009  10:57 AM
simrud wrote:When Curry is in the game, he looks terrible, and the team plays terrible also. It was just too bad to handle to have him in there. Every time Curry would get into the game, everything would fall apart. It was getting embarrassing, that is why they stopped playing him.

Whatever happened to Curry I don't know, but he is no longer a capable basketball player. He simply no longer belongs at this level.

This the bottomline. When Curry has entered the game, he has looked terrible and the team has lost focus. Curry needs to continue to lose weight (at least another 15 lbs), and work on his ball-handling and jumpshot. When he expands his skills beyond merely posting on the low block, MDA will let him play. MDA does not owe Curry anything. If Curry wants to play, he needs to earn his PT.

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12/26/2009  11:26 AM
Eddy Curry is the most pathetic, most lazy, and ugliest piece of shyt this franchise has ever had to deal with.
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12/26/2009  11:38 AM
Curry was Isiah's worst trade bar none.

Curry and Nate have become mates in arms through this. Walsh should really work out a buy-out for both guys.

the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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12/26/2009  11:44 AM
McK1 wrote:Curry was Isiah's worst trade bar none.

Marbury, Penny and a #1 would like a recount.

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12/26/2009  11:53 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/26/2009  12:04 PM
martin wrote:
McK1 wrote:Curry was Isiah's worst trade bar none.

Marbury, Penny and a #1 would like a recount.

for what?

Isiah gave up more assets to get Curry.

the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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12/26/2009  12:56 PM
McK1 wrote:
martin wrote:
McK1 wrote:Curry was Isiah's worst trade bar none.

Marbury, Penny and a #1 would like a recount.

for what?

Isiah gave up more assets to get Curry.

It was two first rounders for Marbury, the second protected until 2010.

At least I think Curry could be productive if MDA could adapt.

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12/26/2009  1:07 PM
franco12 wrote:
McK1 wrote:
martin wrote:
McK1 wrote:Curry was Isiah's worst trade bar none.

Marbury, Penny and a #1 would like a recount.

for what?

Isiah gave up more assets to get Curry.

It was two first rounders for Marbury, the second protected until 2010.

At least I think Curry could be productive if MDA could adapt to losing and giving up all playoff hopes in order to create a market for Curry.


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12/26/2009  1:13 PM
franco12 wrote:
McK1 wrote:
martin wrote:
McK1 wrote:Curry was Isiah's worst trade bar none.

Marbury, Penny and a #1 would like a recount.

for what?

Isiah gave up more assets to get Curry.

It was two first rounders for Marbury, the second protected until 2010.

At least I think Curry could be productive if MDA could adapt.

Isiah gave the knix 6 years to make that second pick as low as possible. Isiah gave the Knix a 1 year turnaround time on Curry.

Curry cost more.

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12/26/2009  1:29 PM
franco12 wrote:
McK1 wrote:
martin wrote:
McK1 wrote:Curry was Isiah's worst trade bar none.

Marbury, Penny and a #1 would like a recount.

for what?

Isiah gave up more assets to get Curry.

It was two first rounders for Marbury, the second protected until 2010.

At least I think Curry could be productive if MDA could adapt.

You cant be serious with that statement. So I guess, Brown, Skiles, MDA and Isiah (accept for 1 yr)all failed to adapt to Curry to allow him to be productive. Curry takes full blame here.

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12/26/2009  1:50 PM
Here's another good article on Curry and buyout option:

Eddy To Knicks: “Play Me, Trade Me, Or Cut Me Loose”?
Dec 26th, 2009 by Dan L.
In each of two road losses two weeks ago to the Bobcats and Bulls, the turning point to the Knicks’ demise may have been the plodding, turn over laden minutes Mike D’Antoni set aside for Eddy Curry.

Since those losses, Curry has not played, and he’s getting frustrated (via Newsday’s Neil Best):

“I just leave it up to him, and when he decides he wants to play me, if he decides, I’ll play, and if not, then I’ll try to figure something out.”

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“During the game, when I’m sitting over there and time is just ticking away, a lot of stuff crosses my mind, but it’s too early for that.”

The implication here is that “that” is a trade or a buyout. He was asked how he would feel if the remainder of his season turns out to be one DNP after another:

“At that point, I would hope both sides would do what’s right. If [D'Antoni] decided to go that long, he probably would have made up in his mind, if he hasn’t already, that I’m not a fit for this team. I would hope we could work something out.”

I understand Curry’s frustration. He worked hard all summer and during the start of the season to get himself into the type shape that he is required to be in, and now he doesn’t play.

But Curry needs to understand that he is in a situation of his own making. He has always had a responsibility to keep himself in shape. It’s part of what he’s being paid $11 million to do. If he’d done that throughout his career he’d never have lost his timing, and quite frankly, his game, which is nothing like what it used to be.

Instead, he used injury as an excuse to turn his back on his responsibilities and his team. He didn’t stop collecting paychecks though.

That’s what I call a lack of professionalism.

Even more glaring is that Curry has absolutely no sense of the context of his situation, saying:

“I try not to think of the reasons because that’s so out of my control, it’s ridiculous.”

What is ridiculous is that Eddy could have played over the last two years if he just stayed in shape. What’s ridiculous is that Curry would collect close to $20 million over the last 2 years while playing in less than a handful of games because he couldn’t keep himself away from the feeding trough while he was hurt. What’s ridiculous is that he’s been healthy for all of several months and he thinks he can start making demands for playing time. What’s ridiculous is that he thinks keeping himself in the type of shape that is implied by a eight figure contract entitles him to call his lack of playing time ridiculous when it’s clear he damages the team.

But Curry’s failure to grasp the irony of his situation is really a tangential issue. The main issue is that Curry wants out. I’m sure the Knicks would love to trade him as badly as he wants to be traded, but the market for a still overweight, lead-footen, center who doesn’t block shots, rebound or play defense is about equivalent to the market for a 5′7 shooting guard with poor shot selection who doesn’t play D or pass. Especially when the Knicks aren’t taking back any contracts beyond this year.

If the Knicks could trade Curry they should have done it yesterday.

Instead there are two ways Curry could get out of his situation. The first is a buy-out.

I can’t claim to know how the collective bargaining agreement would treat a buyout the year before a player option. The Knicks should jump at the opportunity if as part of it, Curry forfeits his option year. The Knicks should give Curry 100% of this year’s salary in a lump sum under that circumstance and wish him the best of luck.

If that isn’t possible though under the collective bargaining agreement, or if Curry isn’t willing to go along with it, then he should explore the other way to escape from New York. His player option.

That seems like a non-starter though. As Curry said (via Berman):

“I would never [opt-out].”

Ok Eddy. Then you should get used to your spot at the end of the bench and collect your dozen or so million dollars next year from your courtside seat, whether you like it or not.

Update:
According to Larry Coon’s salary cap FAQ, after a buyout, the team’s cap number is adjusted downwards to reflect the buyout amount, rather than the original contract amount.

Also, after a bit of further research, it seems that it is possible to buy out an option year. The only provisos are that the player contract has to have a option buy-out clause and that the option buy-out clause cannot exceed 50% of the option year salary.

Thus, the Knicks and Curry could theoretically agree to buy out Curry’s option year but it could not for more than half his option year salary, which is about $11 million. In other words, f the Knicks bought out Curry to the maximum amount permitted under the CBA, they would save about 5.5 million under the 2010 cap.

Incidentally, they could do the same thing with Jeffries and save another 3.5 million or so based his approximate $7 million salary for his option year.

If the Knicks can’t trade either and either or both agree to such a buy-out, the Knicks are looking at another$3.5 to $9 million under the cap in 2010.

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12/26/2009  2:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/26/2009  2:49 PM
I truly hate this bastard. The guy actually controls his own destiny with an opt out year. You want to play opt out. The Knicks played this fat bastard roughly $22 mil over the past 2 years so his fat ass can sit and eat ice cream while his knees were bio-genetically engineered to support his tonnage.

His life falls apart and the team supports him. They hide his man-tit ridden body so the press doesn't have to bust out the wide angle lens for the two page spread of his fat ass in food-rehab.


Now this Jabba the Hut wannabe is gonna bitch and moan that he isn't playing?!? **** you Eddy. **** you, and **** each and every one of the horses that you ate while at the all you can eat Chinese buffet.

You want to play opt out. You hold the cards. You can't complain about a problem you hold all the cards to EASILY solve you dumb piece of dog ****!

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