We could offer him a 5 year deal worth 20mm--it's like adding 4 years 13=mm to his contact--I dont see him doing better than that. If we backload it that would start his contract @ 3.25mm$ and save us 3.5mm in cap space. If we buy out Curry for 9 out of 11mm that's another 2 both =5.5mm. Seems like MDA really like JJ and that extension would be more than fair.

Meanwhile I think we can trade Jeffries for a 2010. Especially given that Nate wants out I think we can do Jeffries+Nate for Kenny Thomas. And, YES, that was a real trade that was discussed, as the NBA granted the Knicks and Kings a post-3pm-deadline extension last February to see if we could work it out!

So go re-visit that. Sacramento is playing well. Imagine if they could just ADD Nate and Jeffries? They would be even better.

I think it's a deal that could get done.

As to Curry? Look, this useless POS wants out, wants to go home and be left alone, is dying for money. You right up front offer a buyout giving him the remainder of this year's money, and, give him 8-9M of next years money, all in one lump sum, and this guy will TAKE IT AND RUN!!!!

So just get that done. Nobody is trading for him and giving us cap relief!

BRIGGS wrote:
Why can't he opt out to resign a contract for more money? Not Curry jefferies. 5 years 20mm is a bigger contract than 1 yr 6.7--I would take it in a NY minute if I was Jefferies and it helps the Knicks--locking in an additional 13+mm???

I'm telling yah it's illegal to do this. It's the same (in reverse) of Minny telling Joe Smith "Oh, just take the 1M this year, then we will sign you to the max once we lock up another big player!"

We will get investigated, rightfully found guilty of wrongdoing, and stripped of assets as a result.

You just cannot do this.

What you should do with Eddy is what I said. If he has 7.5M left this year you tell him this: We will give you 24M right now lump sum of your 28M owed and you go away.

He will GO AWAY IN A HURRY and we save 4M cap space next year on his contract. Now his albatross 11M is just 7M against the cap - and with Jeffries gone (using nate) we are in GREAT SHAPE to tell LeBron, You've got the max now you tell us who you want to play with!

It's the same idea but in reverse for us.

Why not go all the way we can? Curry will get his 10.5 this year, opt out, and we'll give him 11M over 6 years.

I think that is a loophole that the league will immediately crack down on and tell us we can't do it.

I think our best bet is to entice Curry with a big lump sum payment that drops about 4M (at the least) off of his 2011 salary.

Remember, this guy wanted 8M up front last season and we gave him 2M instead (or was that this year? I'm losing track).

The point is he wants money. So well, if we have to owe him 18M over the next season and 3/4ths then you tell him "Hey, how about 14M right now?"

I bet he takes it!

The only way Eddy Curry would opt out is if he had it in writing, as a legally binding agreement, that we were about to re-sign him for his 11M but over 4 years. This would be entirely illegal given the CBA. And to do this on good faith the moment he opted out we could turn around and say "good riddance" and not re-sign him at all!

So it's just not happening and is not a viable let alone legal solution to the problem.

Remember the Boozer/Cleveland situation. Boozer said, don't pick up my option, but please re-sign me to a decent contract. Cleveland said okay. They didn't pick up his option. He bolted to the Jazz for a big pay day.

It's the same...but in reverse. Which is why it won't and can't happen.

Just buy this guy out already. Offer him a lump sum at 4M or 5M less than he would make overall. He would likely take it. We drop 11M to 7 or 6M for 2011 on his contract. Dump Jeffries...and we're gold for the 2-max-fa scenario.

TMS wrote:i wouldn't give away $4M if i were in Curry's shoes... why should he? unless he had a guarantee from another team that he'd be signed to make up for that loss, & he hasn't shown enough of an ability to stay on the court & produce for any appreciable length of time for teams to warrant that kind of investment... the most he'd get right now is a veteran's minimum deal if we bought him out... Curry is better off just sitting his butt on the bench & collecting the rest of the money that's owed to him at this point.

Who said Curry should give up 4mm?

Cosmic wrote:You can't tell Eddy to opt out and tell him you will re-sign him to 20M over 4 years just so we can have cap space. It's illegal.

Meanwhile I think we can trade Jeffries for a 2010. Especially given that Nate wants out I think we can do Jeffries+Nate for Kenny Thomas. And, YES, that was a real trade that was discussed, as the NBA granted the Knicks and Kings a post-3pm-deadline extension last February to see if we could work it out!

So go re-visit that. Sacramento is playing well. Imagine if they could just ADD Nate and Jeffries? They would be even better.

I think it's a deal that could get done.

As to Curry? Look, this useless POS wants out, wants to go home and be left alone, is dying for money. You right up front offer a buyout giving him the remainder of this year's money, and, give him 8-9M of next years money, all in one lump sum, and this guy will TAKE IT AND RUN!!!!

So just get that done. Nobody is trading for him and giving us cap relief!

I would give them $3 mill and possibly one of our 2nd round picks to get that deal done. If we could get that deal done, we could sign two max players.

Cosmic wrote:I had one more thought here.

The only way Eddy Curry would opt out is if he had it in writing, as a legally binding agreement, that we were about to re-sign him for his 11M but over 4 years. This would be entirely illegal given the CBA. And to do this on good faith the moment he opted out we could turn around and say "good riddance" and not re-sign him at all!

So it's just not happening and is not a viable let alone legal solution to the problem.

Remember the Boozer/Cleveland situation. Boozer said, don't pick up my option, but please re-sign me to a decent contract. Cleveland said okay. They didn't pick up his option. He bolted to the Jazz for a big pay day.

It's the same...but in reverse. Which is why it won't and can't happen.

Just buy this guy out already. Offer him a lump sum at 4M or 5M less than he would make overall. He would likely take it. We drop 11M to 7 or 6M for 2011 on his contract. Dump Jeffries...and we're gold for the 2-max-fa scenario.

It would be exactly like the Boozer situation. We could do it, but the discussions would not be binding on either party. Thus, Eddy is not going to opt out on our word that we resign him to a another deal. But if he did opt-out, we could legally resign him to a 4 yr 20 mill deal or something like that. Since he is probably going to eat his way into retirement, such a deal would be beneficial for him and it would save us some money next year.