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My main target for this trading season is Mcgee
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BRIGGS
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11/29/2009  2:31 AM
If there is anyway possible--any scenario where I can get this kid--I mean they wanted Chandler--why not Chandler and Lee for Mcgee James and a 2011 first round pick. We need to get a 5--whatever way it needs to get done--we need to do it. This is the kid I would concentrate on--OVERPAY what have you--because one he blows up its all done. I think Wshington is a desperate team--a team willing to do business--what we have to STOP doing is OVER RATING what we have and undervaluing what we dont ahve--we need to address the 5 and work back. What way can we get this kid?
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11/29/2009  3:50 AM
I love this kid McGee and I can see Camby with more offensive ability all over him. Thing is I'm sure their organization knows all about his potential. At the same time that locker room appears to be pointing fingers...Arenas called out Caron Butler the other day...Jaimison cursed out the whole team while he was out due to injury....they could be interested in a shake up. They need gel guys/leadership....and probably better depth with experience.

Donnie is not interested in taking on any salary and he's also not interested in messing up the plan, whatever the **** that is.

I'd love to do something bro....anything at this point to improve the team....apparently improving the team this season, even if it means turning away future hall of famers with plenty of gas in the tank, is not in the plan....

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11/29/2009  3:58 AM
While I'm here....I'd like to point out that the Wizards could very much be in th eLebron sweepstakes....The Wizards have Caron Butler. They could possibly use him in a sign and trade situation also involving the terrific youth they have accumulated such as McGee, Young and Blatche....just a thought....a ****ed up thought indeed
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11/29/2009  7:16 AM
Exactly, Eny, he is a young Marcus Camby. I've felt that way since the day I first watched him play. His raw offense, the blocks, playing way above the rim, playing with reckless energy throwing himself around. He's even built like him. I'd love to get him but we won't. Once the Wizards dump Haywood then it's McGee's turn.
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11/29/2009  8:06 AM
Eny, do you really think Lebron would go to Washington? Would Washington give up all that talent for a one year rental of Lebron?

We ain't getting Mcgee. One, they won't trade him and 2nd and bigger, is Mike doesn't want centers who can't shoot. We got our future center in Hill.

If we were running a different system I'd be all for it, but if he came here it would disrupt the offense Mike wants to play.
Basically, when searching for talent to acquire on this team we have to think of the system we are running first and then guys who fit that.

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11/29/2009  8:26 AM
I'd like to add McGee. He's not great in any aspect of the game, but he's good at all of them and, because of his age, he still has a lot of upside.
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11/29/2009  9:44 AM
TMac has to be the #1 target - ie getting rid of Jeffries and/or Curry

McGee or Young would be right up there on the list though. You'd have to think that a lot of teams are thinking the same thing.

I wonder if we would trade for Arenas after this year if the 2010 thing blows up on us.

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11/29/2009  12:11 PM
There are no visionary is Knicks counry... but BRIGGS.
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11/29/2009  12:12 PM
Ira wrote:I'd like to add McGee. He's not great in any aspect of the game, but he's good at all of them and, because of his age, he still has a lot of upside.

"He's not great in any aspect of the game"... hmmm, soudns familiar.

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11/29/2009  12:13 PM
^why the knicks not hire briggs yet?? i don't understand.
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11/29/2009  12:34 PM
A freak athlete who has skills. I also like players whose father played the game, and in McGee you have a guy who had a dad AND mom who played the sport at high levels of competition. Whenever I have seen him I have been impressed at some of the things he can do for a big man. I also like the comparison to Camby. If McGee can ever develop an automatic go to shot like a hook, be can be a monster.

With that said, I would think that he would be getting more minutes in Washington, even if they already have a pretty solid big man at the 5 spot who is uninjured this year and is able to play 30+MPG. McGee should be getting about 20MPG at the C or PF position, IMO.

Is there something about him that we don't know about? How does the Washington coaching staff feel about him? I know he is foul prone, and I think I have read that he is not good at boxing out(pretty common in today's NBA), but are there other things about his game that most of us are not seeing or hearing about?

I take it that Briggs is speaking up about him now because in his last 4 games, all less than 18MPG, he has recorded almost 4 blocks/game against pretty decent competition. Of course this means that his value to Washington will be increasing, and they will be less likely to let him go.

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11/29/2009  12:50 PM
--->I take it that Briggs is speaking up about him now because in his last 4 games, all less than 18MPG, he has recorded almost 4 blocks/game against pretty decent competition. Of course this means that his value to Washington will be increasing, and they will be less likely to let him go.
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es. Vote for whoever you want--for whatever reason you want

1. Michael Beasley F
2. Derrick Rose PG
3. Javale Mcgee C/F
4. Brook Lopez C/F
5. Anthony Randolph F

Anyone else out there who can show me a 7 footer
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who can show the same skills as this kid shows? Again this is a 7 footer with extremly long arms. I'm staying in the camp we need a big man--guard are much easier to acquire.

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11/29/2009  12:56 PM
BRIGGS wrote:--->I take it that Briggs is speaking up about him now because in his last 4 games, all less than 18MPG, he has recorded almost 4 blocks/game against pretty decent competition. Of course this means that his value to Washington will be increasing, and they will be less likely to let him go.


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es. Vote for whoever you want--for whatever reason you want

1. Michael Beasley F
2. Derrick Rose PG
3. Javale Mcgee C/F
4. Brook Lopez C/F
5. Anthony Randolph F

Anyone else out there who can show me a 7 footer
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who can show the same skills as this kid shows? Again this is a 7 footer with extremly long arms. I'm staying in the camp we need a big man--guard are much easier to acquire.

Briggs, I know (and knew) you like him, but until his last 4 games he had done nothing this year that demonstrated the talent/raw ability that BOTH of us think he has. That is all I was pointing out.

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Paladin55 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:--->I take it that Briggs is speaking up about him now because in his last 4 games, all less than 18MPG, he has recorded almost 4 blocks/game against pretty decent competition. Of course this means that his value to Washington will be increasing, and they will be less likely to let him go.


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1. Michael Beasley F
2. Derrick Rose PG
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4. Brook Lopez C/F
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who can show the same skills as this kid shows? Again this is a 7 footer with extremly long arms. I'm staying in the camp we need a big man--guard are much easier to acquire.

Briggs, I know (and knew) you like him, but until his last 4 games he had done nothing this year that demonstrated the talent/raw ability that BOTH of us think he has. That is all I was pointing out.

Yes but the time to even try to attempt to acquire a guy is BEFORE he takes off. Once he takes off it's all over. We do have a nice borderline all star PF that will be very tough to retain and a guy that they wanted for pick 5---I have to think that in a win now mode--we can atleast get into a conversation that might go somewhere.

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11/29/2009  1:09 PM
He can't shoot, why would D'Antoni want him?
No matter how good the guy is and I do like him very much, he isn't coming here cause he can't shoot.
Does he have the makings of a jump shot at least?
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11/29/2009  1:28 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:He can't shoot, why would D'Antoni want him?
No matter how good the guy is and I do like him very much, he isn't coming here cause he can't shoot.
Does he have the makings of a jump shot at least?

yea but can amare shoot??

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11/29/2009  1:34 PM
Paladin55 wrote:A freak athlete who has skills. I also like players whose father played the game, and in McGee you have a guy who had a dad AND mom who played the sport at high levels of competition. Whenever I have seen him I have been impressed at some of the things he can do for a big man. I also like the comparison to Camby. If McGee can ever develop an automatic go to shot like a hook, be can be a monster.

With that said, I would think that he would be getting more minutes in Washington, even if they already have a pretty solid big man at the 5 spot who is uninjured this year and is able to play 30+MPG. McGee should be getting about 20MPG at the C or PF position, IMO.

Is there something about him that we don't know about? How does the Washington coaching staff feel about him? I know he is foul prone, and I think I have read that he is not good at boxing out(pretty common in today's NBA), but are there other things about his game that most of us are not seeing or hearing about?

I take it that Briggs is speaking up about him now because in his last 4 games, all less than 18MPG, he has recorded almost 4 blocks/game against pretty decent competition. Of course this means that his value to Washington will be increasing, and they will be less likely to let him go.

the dude is still a project for the blizzards. as noted, gets quick fouls among other things. not sure how much he understands the whole game yet. i can see it now though... knicks get him and he puts up the stats he does for wash and folks would rip on him.

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11/29/2009  1:39 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:Eny, do you really think Lebron would go to Washington? Would Washington give up all that talent for a one year rental of Lebron?

We ain't getting Mcgee. One, they won't trade him and 2nd and bigger, is Mike doesn't want centers who can't shoot. We got our future center in Hill.

If we were running a different system I'd be all for it, but if he came here it would disrupt the offense Mike wants to play.
Basically, when searching for talent to acquire on this team we have to think of the system we are running first and then guys who fit that.

Why would it be a 1 year rental? I'm talking bout in the off-season....The Cavs aren't going to trade Lebron this year, at least I don't think they will. A packedge of Caron, Mcgee, Blatche and Young for a newly signed Lebron is fair. I think Arenas/ Jaimison/Lebron would be a tough nucleus to contend with....

Bur I'm just speaking hypothetically....

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11/29/2009  1:42 PM
sidsanders wrote:the dude is still a project for the blizzards. as noted, gets quick fouls among other things. not sure how much he understands the whole game yet. i can see it now though... knicks get him and he puts up the stats he does for wash and folks would rip on him.

the knicks would get him and then he'd rack up DNP-CDs for d'antoni while the stash demands he "earn" playing time over guys like al harrington and david lee, since they're playing for contracts.

PS wasn't jordan hill supposed to do all the stuff mcgee does? now we're going to overpay for a guy who apparently does the same things (blocks shots, is a true 5, etc etc).

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11/29/2009  1:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/29/2009  2:15 PM
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earthmansurfer wrote:Eny, do you really think Lebron would go to Washington? Would Washington give up all that talent for a one year rental of Lebron?

We ain't getting Mcgee. One, they won't trade him and 2nd and bigger, is Mike doesn't want centers who can't shoot. We got our future center in Hill.

If we were running a different system I'd be all for it, but if he came here it would disrupt the offense Mike wants to play.
Basically, when searching for talent to acquire on this team we have to think of the system we are running first and then guys who fit that.

Why would it be a 1 year rental? I'm talking bout in the off-season....The Cavs aren't going to trade Lebron this year, at least I don't think they will. A packedge of Caron, Mcgee, Blatche and Young for a newly signed Lebron is fair. I think Arenas/ Jaimison/Lebron would be a tough nucleus to contend with....

Bur I'm just speaking hypothetically....

mr zero never played d before his knees were smoked and isnt the same guy on o yet, if ever. his last few games without the ball he has looked lost, and they pulled him in the 4th in the mia win. boykins took over, a real pg for them they signed off the street (real compared to gil, gil is no pg). stuff can change and maybe he can get his o back in line. dont think his d will ever show up though. i would bet the blizz would rather dump gil than butler if they could.

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