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ramtour420
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11/28/2009  4:22 PM
Man, i really feel for Wilson, with all this talk about Lebron coming or maybe coming it looks like its been tough on him. Last year he was abusing KG. Hey man, just forget it, our life has a very limited amount of years- you gotta use every one of them. So do your thing man, you can play with the best of them. Cheers.
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11/28/2009  4:31 PM
He'll be alright, just a little crowded right now.
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11/28/2009  5:02 PM
ramtour420 wrote:Man, i really feel for Wilson, with all this talk about Lebron coming or maybe coming it looks like its been tough on him. Last year he was abusing KG. Hey man, just forget it, our life has a very limited amount of years- you gotta use every one of them. So do your thing man, you can play with the best of them. Cheers.

1 Dunk equals abusing??? LOL

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11/28/2009  5:59 PM
Wilson had ankle surgery. He is probably still recovering. BUT the other side is Wil is probably a 2nd or 3rd option at best if he continues to his current progress.

There is an old saying in the NBA, that after 3 years you are what you are. Meaning after 3 years, it is unlikely a player is just gonna blow up. I am willing to give Wil next year but if he doesn't I don't know if he is worth keeping.

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11/28/2009  6:05 PM
ariza took 6 years and is still delusional, um, improving
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11/28/2009  6:05 PM
joec32033 wrote:Wilson had ankle surgery. He is probably still recovering. BUT the other side is Wil is probably a 2nd or 3rd option at best if he continues to his current progress.

There is an old saying in the NBA, that after 3 years you are what you are. Meaning after 3 years, it is unlikely a player is just gonna blow up. I am willing to give Wil next year but if he doesn't I don't know if he is worth keeping.

i think chauncey billups in particular would disagree with the 3-year rule.

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11/28/2009  6:18 PM
Case and Big, I am just saying what I heard somewhere. Billups is inarguable, but Ariza started busting out his 3rd year. If I remember correctly, he was traded to the Magic in his second year and traded to LA in his third year. He busted out in his 4th.

Granted team and situation play a role also, but the phrase I used was quoted from, I think, an NBA scout in a mag.

Here is another article where the writer sites the same philosophy:

The old saying in the NBA goes, “After three years, you are who you are.” Some teams, though, don’t have the patience to wait that much time to get returns on their draft investments. Joe Alexander of the Milwaukee Bucks and JR Giddens of the Boston Celtics were some of the victims this week.
Article by Jorge Sierra
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11/28/2009  6:35 PM
joec32033 wrote:Case and Big, I am just saying what I heard somewhere. Billups is inarguable, but Ariza started busting out his 3rd year. If I remember correctly, he was traded to the Magic in his second year and traded to LA in his third year. He busted out in his 4th.

Granted team and situation play a role also, but the phrase I used was quoted from, I think, an NBA scout in a mag.

Here is another article where the writer sites the same philosophy:

The old saying in the NBA goes, “After three years, you are who you are.” Some teams, though, don’t have the patience to wait that much time to get returns on their draft investments. Joe Alexander of the Milwaukee Bucks and JR Giddens of the Boston Celtics were some of the victims this week.
Article by Jorge Sierra

As a general rule, I agree that most players come close to their potential by their 3rd-4th year. Chandler however played better last year and I think he can still get to another level. Really, if he shot the ball at a slightly higher percetage, we would not even be having this conversation. The dude plays solid defense, is good on the break, and can drive. Once his ankle heals, he needs to take 600-700 shots a day next summer to develop his 3pt range. If he can shot 3s at a 39-40% rate, he will look alot better in this offense.

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11/28/2009  7:00 PM
TheGame wrote:
joec32033 wrote:Case and Big, I am just saying what I heard somewhere. Billups is inarguable, but Ariza started busting out his 3rd year. If I remember correctly, he was traded to the Magic in his second year and traded to LA in his third year. He busted out in his 4th.

Granted team and situation play a role also, but the phrase I used was quoted from, I think, an NBA scout in a mag.

Here is another article where the writer sites the same philosophy:

The old saying in the NBA goes, “After three years, you are who you are.” Some teams, though, don’t have the patience to wait that much time to get returns on their draft investments. Joe Alexander of the Milwaukee Bucks and JR Giddens of the Boston Celtics were some of the victims this week.
Article by Jorge Sierra

As a general rule, I agree that most players come close to their potential by their 3rd-4th year. Chandler however played better last year and I think he can still get to another level. Really, if he shot the ball at a slightly higher percetage, we would not even be having this conversation. The dude plays solid defense, is good on the break, and can drive. Once his ankle heals, he needs to take 600-700 shots a day next summer to develop his 3pt range. If he can shot 3s at a 39-40% rate, he will look alot better in this offense.

I agree. With you but I don't know if Wilson has the motivation be that high end guy. I look at a guy like Granger-who Wilson is compared to- and he was there for 2 years and started taking over the team his 3rd. By his 4th it was his team. I don't see Wilson doing that, IMO.

Hopefully it's his injury-as weird as it is to say-because I like Wil. I hope we are seeing that Allan Houston cool and not someone just happy sliding through on his athletic ability. What worries me though is Wil is not doing anything different or expanding his game to make up for lost athleticism to this point. Makes me think Wil is happy just getting by on athletic ability.

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11/28/2009  8:08 PM
this might sound weird but i have a feeling Wilson is depressed. If you read his facebook updates they are always really morbid like hes going thru some real bad personal issues maybe with his friends or a girlfriend... that could have something to do with his struggles
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11/29/2009  9:47 AM
Chandler is 4 years younger than Granger. Just sayin'...
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11/29/2009  10:14 AM
Its all above the shoulders with Chandler. Poor shot selection and a willingness to hang out on the perimeter is his downfall. He takes 5-6 threes too many and he needs work on his handle which will enable him to get to the basket (foul-line) a little more.
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11/29/2009  10:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/29/2009  10:24 AM
It's the system.

Not all players are perfectly suited to devisin and improvisin. The Mayor is 6'8 and 240, not quite a gazelle and not quite a rhino. If you give him a more disciplined role in an offense that gets him open looks, or creases to drive, he would thrive. Chandler is a willing student. He rebounds, plays defense and blocks a shot every once in a while. He is like the labrador retriever who only wants to please. He is unselfish and works hard.

Place him on the Spurs, Jazz or Lakers and we would be praying to the basketball gods that we had him.

Sometimes the answers are not so obvious.

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11/29/2009  12:10 PM
misterearl wrote:It's the system.

Not all players are perfectly suited to devisin and improvisin. The Mayor is 6'8 and 240, not quite a gazelle and not quite a rhino. If you give him a more disciplined role in an offense that gets him open looks, or creases to drive, he would thrive. Chandler is a willing student. He rebounds, plays defense and blocks a shot every once in a while. He is like the labrador retriever who only wants to please. He is unselfish and works hard.

Place him on the Spurs, Jazz or Lakers and we would be praying to the basketball gods that we had him.

Sometimes the answers are not so obvious.

Same is true for Lee and Galo, and soon will be for Hill and Duglas.
All 5 are or can be nice role players in NBA... when they will have 2 stars to play with.
And it really doesn't matter Spurs, Jazz, Lakers, or Knicks.
Doesn't matter for them, but does for us fans...

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1/7/2010  10:21 PM
Punch 21

It is a beautiful thing to watch a 22 year old gain his confidence.

The consistent scoring of The Mayor (4 games in a row of 20 plus points) is one thing but the 6 assists (with only ONE turnover) are more worthy of discussion. As Mr. Chandler grows into his role handling the ball, he has improved his decision-making and bonded with Gallo and Lee to form a sweet shooting jazz combo. Chandler driving the ball inside was an essential compliment to Lee's midrange game and Gallo's Jerry Lucas-like outside bombs.

For good measure, Wilson Chandler also snatches 7 rebounds and is perfect (4-4) from the line. Graceful and powerful.

However, none of it matters is the Knicks don't get a huge win against a physical Charlotte team. The New Knicks took the Bobcats best shots and kept coming back. The Mayor led the Knicks with 45 minutes played and continues to shoot more than 50 per cent from the field in his recent stretch of self-discovery. The best part? The fun is just getting started. As The Mayor's Campaign Manager I would like to recognize those who have contributed generously to the cause.

The Mayor thanks you for your support

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1/7/2010  10:34 PM
I feel you Earl. A lot of the same cats that have been whining for years about us developing young talent, were trying to throw Chandler under the bus because he's been inconsistent. Expect him to be Lebron James out the gate or somethin'

My man is 22. I still maintain he will be a perennial All-Star in a couple of years. He can play.

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1/7/2010  10:41 PM
He had a tough start this season, but MDA stuck with him and it's been paying off of late. The thing I like best about Chandler is his versatility. He plays three positions and has a very well rounded game.
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1/7/2010  10:41 PM
sebstar wrote:I feel you Earl. A lot of the same cats that have been whining for years about us developing young talent, were trying to throw Chandler under the bus because he's been inconsistent. Expect him to be Lebron James out the gate or somethin'

My man is 22. I still maintain he will be a perennial All-Star in a couple of years. He can play.

I think the biggest thing is that The Mayor has finally decided to play to his strengths and play inside the 3point line and only take the 3's that are truley wide open. Wil is absolutely ballin right now.

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1/7/2010  11:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/7/2010  11:41 PM
sebstar wrote:I feel you Earl. A lot of the same cats that have been whining for years about us developing young talent, were trying to throw Chandler under the bus because he's been inconsistent. Expect him to be Lebron James out the gate or somethin'

My man is 22. I still maintain he will be a perennial All-Star in a couple of years. He can play.


A lot of folks around here are very impatient, and in the case of Chandler this year, some could not even give him a break and accept the fact that his game was really being hindered by the leg injury.

Gallinari and Hill have both faced (face) the same fan doubt and impatience. Gallo is beginning to win people over, and hopefully Hill will do the same thing when he finally gets time on the court.

Young players need a chance to develop at their own speed and find their comfort zone in a particular system.

Not all players become successful, but they deserve a real chance to show what they can do before people trash them and call for them to be traded.

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1/8/2010  12:52 AM
misterearl wrote:Punch 21

It is a beautiful thing to watch a 22 year old gain his confidence.

The consistent scoring of The Mayor (4 games in a row of 20 plus points) is one thing but the 6 assists (with only ONE turnover) are more worthy of discussion. As Mr. Chandler grows into his role handling the ball, he has improved his decision-making and bonded with Gallo and Lee to form a sweet shooting jazz combo. Chandler driving the ball inside was an essential compliment to Lee's midrange game and Gallo's Jerry Lucas-like outside bombs.

For good measure, Wilson Chandler also snatches 7 rebounds and is perfect (4-4) from the line. Graceful and powerful.

However, none of it matters is the Knicks don't get a huge win against a physical Charlotte team. The New Knicks took the Bobcats best shots and kept coming back. The Mayor led the Knicks with 45 minutes played and continues to shoot more than 50 per cent from the field in his recent stretch of self-discovery. The best part? The fun is just getting started. As The Mayor's Campaign Manager I would like to recognize those who have contributed generously to the cause.

The Mayor thanks you for your support


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