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cooch2584
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11/23/2009  5:52 PM
just throwing this out there. IMO I think this would be the best defensive/offensive option we have
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11/23/2009  6:06 PM
i agree but MDA is attached to Duhon at the hip.
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11/23/2009  6:07 PM
yea, at a quick glance, i agree.
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11/23/2009  6:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/23/2009  6:09 PM
TMS wrote:i agree but MDA is attached to Duhon at the hip.

i thought about this today on the bus. and i figured it out.

outside of duhon, who can MDA go to as a locker room control-arm, as his guy? you take duhon out, who is your guy in the locker room?? you need a guy, you need an extension of your philosophy. duhon may not execute, but i think he is getting time for entirely different reasons. right or wrong, it seems to be necessary until we get some real leadership at the 1 spot. at least the guy acts the part, and at this point that's all we can hope for.

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11/23/2009  6:09 PM
orange you agree with me?? HOLY SHYT sorry about kicking your butt in the fantasy league but hey im in 5th place looking for the trophy
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11/23/2009  6:09 PM
cooch2584 wrote:orange you agree with me?? HOLY SHYT sorry about kicking your butt in the fantasy league but hey im in 5th place looking for the trophy

orange make strong comeback. propose me a trade.

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11/23/2009  6:12 PM
who ya want??
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11/23/2009  6:15 PM
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11/23/2009  6:36 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:i agree but MDA is attached to Duhon at the hip.

i thought about this today on the bus. and i figured it out.

outside of duhon, who can MDA go to as a locker room control-arm, as his guy? you take duhon out, who is your guy in the locker room?? you need a guy, you need an extension of your philosophy. duhon may not execute, but i think he is getting time for entirely different reasons. right or wrong, it seems to be necessary until we get some real leadership at the 1 spot. at least the guy acts the part, and at this point that's all we can hope for.

what about Al? he wants to be a leader this year, go to him... at least he's putting up numbers & contributing to the success of the team... or u can turn to Hughes, he handled not playing like a professional & is now playing some great basketball for us... he's been great defensively & is orchestrating the offense better than anyone could have expected, plus he's got plenty of years under his belt so the younger guys should be able to respect him.

Duhon has been horrible, where's the accountability for his lack of production? does it send a good message to the young guys to see someone get playing time when they're not producing just because they're teacher's pet? i don't think it does... just cuz he called out his teammates early in the season for not being prepared for games doesn't mean anything if he's not gonna be prepared to play at his best either.

i'm not saying u blackball Duhon for the rest of the year, but until he starts playing better u have to start reducing his minutes & playing guys who are producing on the court... yesterday Nate was playing terrific basketball & ignited the comeback, but he still got pulled for Duhon in crunchtime... Douglas didn't even get a chance in the 2nd half while Duhon was going 1 for 6 shooting & Hughes was doing all the orchestrating... i've been a big defender of Duhon last season cuz i thought he did a good job for us considering what we were looking for when we signed him, but this year he's not doing the job & he knows it.

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11/23/2009  6:47 PM
^^^^^ 1000% agree
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11/23/2009  6:54 PM
MDA would replace Duhon at the drop of a hat if it was a real serious option you gave him. AI wasn't that option, cuz he's not controllable. You want that real partner who can be the coach on the floor. MDA can't play but he wants someone that is an extension of himself on the floor. That's why they wanted Curry or Rubio. MDA knows that if he can get that player he can make this thing hum like a BMW.

Neither Hughes or Douglas have the BB IQ to really be that guy. Both of them are better players than Duhon, but they really are scoring guards in the truest sense of the word.

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11/23/2009  6:55 PM
nixluva wrote:MDA would replace Duhon at the drop of a hat if it was a real serious option you gave him. AI wasn't that option, cuz he's not controllable. You want that real partner who can be the coach on the floor. MDA can't play but he wants someone that is an extension of himself on the floor. That's why they wanted Curry or Rubio. MDA knows that if he can get that player he can make this thing hum like a BMW.

Neither Hughes or Douglas have the BB IQ to really be that guy. Both of them are better players than Duhon, but they really are scoring guards in the truest sense of the word.

that's what i'm tryin' to say. good stuff

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11/23/2009  7:31 PM
^^^^^ totally disagree 1000% what would be so bad to get 15-20 points and 10 - 12 assists Per game from hughes and douglas?? They are gonna get their points and the assists are a bonus.Im not streching if they get6 or 7 assists each in this backcourt.DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. We dont need a guard to get us 15 assists per game( their aint a guard out there that can do this) So why not 6 or 7 assists each and spread the defense?? Remember they have a defensive mind set that dudu never had. COME ON THIS IS A NO BRAINER
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11/23/2009  7:37 PM
cooch2584 wrote:^^^^^ totally disagree 1000% what would be so bad to get 15-20 points and 10 - 12 assists Per game from hughes and douglas?? They are gonna get their points and the assists are a bonus.Im not streching if they get6 or 7 assists each in this backcourt.DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. We dont need a guard to get us 15 assists per game( their aint a guard out there that can do this) So why not 6 or 7 assists each and spread the defense?? Remember they have a defensive mind set that dudu never had. COME ON THIS IS A NO BRAINER

unlike in fantasy, it's not just about the numbers. tony campbell scored 20 points a game in '91 with the wolves, and he sucks.

it's about having the mental presence. sure, duhon's performance is no where near where it should be, but he's a steady hand-- for whatever it's worth. it's about intangibles. believe you i and me and him, mda, like nixluva said, would swap duhon out of there very quickly if there was even a single Mind in that locker room capable of bearing this burden.

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11/23/2009  7:48 PM
its not like fantasy its about going out of the norm and bringing something else to the court.I dont understand why not just be different
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11/23/2009  7:50 PM
orange if you dont like the trade i sent you dont take it out on this post
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11/23/2009  7:51 PM
cooch2584 wrote:orange if you dont like the trade i sent you dont take it out on this post

please take fantasy talk some place else.

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11/23/2009  7:53 PM
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11/23/2009  7:58 PM
MDA knows BB inside and out. I find it funny when we make our own judgments about what he should do and not realize how many times he's seen a given situation over his long playing and coaching career. He's smart enough to come up with his own take on how to attack NBA defenses and yet people think he doesn't know defense. Tell me how that's possible? Hughes and Douglas would be a better backcourt in a pure statistical sense, but i'm not sure that over the course of 82 that it would mean more wins for the team.

Think of it this way. We just lost a close game against the Celtics and in games like that the extra number of mistakes that both Hughes/TD would inevitably make, would sink us more often than not. If Duhon was playing at the same level as the 1st half of last year we'd be in better shape. WHY? cuz he did more than just shoot better. His decision making was better too and he made the game easier for the other Knicks. The problem is that it seems that that Duhon was a mirage and we may never see that guy again. I hope he gets it back, cuz we need that guy.

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11/23/2009  8:19 PM
so your saying we should wait for dudu to get like he was last yr at this time?? are you kidding?
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