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If Curry Plays Well Should We Keep Him?
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TheGame
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11/19/2009  3:46 PM
I think this is going to become the hot topic for Knicks management over the next 2 months. Assuming CUrry can stay healthy and warrant 25 minutes a game, he will probably put up about 15 pts and 5-6 rbs a game. Yesterday showed what a big difference having a big center makes in terms of our defense and our ability to get other frontcourt players in foul trouble. If Curry returns to his near-allstar season form, do we keep him? I think most can agree that we are not going to find an equivalent center to replace him and we already gave up 2 draft picks to get him.

I am torn on the issue. On the one hand, Curry has proven to be without much heart and has been unable to stay in shape. If he plays well, he becomes tradeable and we can cut our losses.

On the other hand, the guy looks better than he has looked in 5 years and he probably could still lose 10 more lbs to increase his mobility. He still draws double teams and impacts the game. As soon as he came in, Indy had to start reacting to his game. We really don't have anyone else that can do that. For whatever reason, Walsh seems to be the only GM that has been able to get this guy to get into shape. If Walsh can keep him in shape, then Curry turns into a very useful player.

IMO I would look into packaging Jeffries with Chandler, a second round pick, and $3 million dollars for an expiring contract. For a team like the T-wolves who need a SF, this would give them two and a draft pick and since Jeffries only has one year left on this deal, it is not a huge investment. If Walsh could not do that, I might consider adding TD to the deal and keeping the second round draft pick.

If we could clear enough space to sign two max FAs and keep Curry, this team really would be poised to make a huge jump in the standings next year.

AI (resign for another year)
Hughes (resign for vet minimum)
Lebron
Bosh
Curry, with Gallo and Hill on the bench.

That would be no worse than 2nd best team in the East.

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BigRedDog
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11/19/2009  4:01 PM
no
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11/19/2009  4:05 PM
Under no circumstances.

His lack of defense/rebounding more than takes back what he gives on offense. He shoots a high percentage, but his turnovers significantly reduce his points per possession.

He is also poor at passing out of the double team, thus negating the one definite advantage he offers.

No thanks.

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11/19/2009  4:11 PM
u dump Curry at the soonest possible opportunity, i don't care if we're in the midst of a 10 game winning streak w/him putting up 20 & 10 games... in fact, that's probably the best time to dump his contract.
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11/19/2009  4:17 PM
He's one of those guys that looks worse the longer that you look at him, so no. Let's deal him as quickly as the opportunity presents itself.
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11/19/2009  4:23 PM
I don't necessarily disagree and I understand the comments about defense. But after watching Lee try to play center for 10 games, Curry's defense does not look as bad as it used to. I guess we will need to see how Curry develops over the next 10 games or so. I doubt any team is going to make an offer until after they see Curry play 10-15 games. If he looks good, Walsh can evaluate the offers at that time. I would like to at least get a late 1st round pick for him. The guy only makes $10 mil and has just one year left on his deal, so it is not like a team would be taking a huge risk getting him. If we got an expiring and a 1st rounder for him, I would be happy.
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11/19/2009  4:28 PM
no.
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11/19/2009  4:30 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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11/19/2009  4:31 PM
Curry isn't a traditional big, but he still has the ability to warp a defense and for an offensive team like we are that is very important. We want to be careful in wanting to just get rid of him as if there are a lot of bigs out there that can get the job done. There really aren't a lot of post players that can command a double team. Some around here want to point to what Curry can't do, but what he does do can have a big impact. Curry can wear out defenders. He puts teams in the penalty and that helps us in 4th qtrs. At the right price Curry isn't a bad option.
If I thought it was gonna be easy to make a trade i'd say do it, but I feel Curry is gonna still be here in 2010.
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11/19/2009  4:33 PM
nixluva wrote:Curry isn't a traditional big, but he still has the ability to warp a defense and for an offensive team like we are that is very important. We want to be careful in wanting to just get rid of him as if there are a lot of bigs out there that can get the job done. There really aren't a lot of post players that can command a double team. Some around here want to point to what Curry can't do, but what he does do can have a big impact. Curry can wear out defenders. He puts teams in the penalty and that helps us in 4th qtrs. At the right price Curry isn't a bad option.
If I thought it was gonna be easy to make a trade i'd say do it, but I feel Curry is gonna still be here in 2010.

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Anyone willing to give us 2010 for Curry? We dump him like an STD infested whore who just stole all our money.

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11/19/2009  4:34 PM
Yes

The Knicks should definitely keep Eddy Cuury until that moment a 6'11 replacement is ready to step in and man up in the paint. Jordan Hill is a work in progress and potentially three to four years away from reaching his prime.

TheGame - an expiring AND a first rounder?

If you are an opposing NBA General Manager please state the reasons you are eager to make that deal?

C'mon Man!

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11/19/2009  4:39 PM
TheGame - an expiring AND a first rounder?

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11/19/2009  4:40 PM
I don't think he's such a bad defender. He's always bodied up on his man pushing him away from the basket which is a big improvement over when we have easy buckets playing center. I don't think Curry will ever get blocks because he's too close to his man, but he will push his man away from the basket which should allow other quicker players like Chandler et al to get more blocks.

I thought he ran the floor well for a big man and his energy level was real good. He has great hands and I loved his aggressive play. I say give him a chance. The team played alot more cohesively when he was on the floor. Also, I think if you trade him now, it totally kills the moral of the team. I'm definitely looking forward to see how he plays against Boston. We should match up alot better against them will EC. Should be a good test for him. I would much rather see us move JJ skinny.

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11/19/2009  4:40 PM
misterearl wrote:Yes

The Knicks should definitely keep Eddy Cuury until that moment a 6'11 replacement is ready to step in and man up in the paint. Jordan Hill is a work in progress and potentially three to four years away from reaching his prime.

TheGame - an expiring AND a first rounder?

If you are an opposing NBA General Manager please state the reasons you are eager to make that deal?

C'mon Man!

Well, I am not talking about a lottery pick. The 1st rounder would probably be between 18-30, and if Curry plays well, I could see someone desperate for some post scoring taking a chance on him.

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11/19/2009  4:42 PM
martin wrote:
TheGame - an expiring AND a first rounder?

Isiah sees your expiring AND a first rounder and raises you a first rounder.

I want those unprotected too and I would like you to bid against yourself.

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11/19/2009  4:44 PM
misterearl wrote:Yes

The Knicks should definitely keep Eddy Cuury until that moment a 6'11 replacement is ready to step in and man up in the paint. Jordan Hill is a work in progress and potentially three to four years away from reaching his prime.

I'm glad you brought up Hill. I'd definitely like to see Hill on the floor at the same time as Curry. With his midrange jumper he should be alot more effective with Curry on the floor. I also think Hill will start to get more blocks playing with Curry.

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11/19/2009  4:44 PM
Eddy Curry has a 2011 contract. Knicks want a 2010 contract. No team is giving us a 1st round pick in return for a guy who has had nothing but trouble his entire career. It's not happening guys. It's just not.

If someone called Donnie today and offered a 2010 expiring for Eddy Curry? You jump on that just like that. Expiring for Curry. No questions asked. No attempt to get a pick or another player from that team. NO WAY NO HOW!!!!

You jump on that and then you call LeBron and say, "Hey, not only can we pay you the max, we can pay a FA of YOUR CHOOSING the max as well to come play with you! And then in 2011 another high paid all-star to play with you two!"

...Yeah......you're not doing that if you retain Eddy LOL. And, retain him you will, if you try to get VALUE out of him!

What is TOP VALUE FOR EDDY CURRY!?

A 2010 full expiring!

Come'on guys...

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11/19/2009  4:50 PM
Celts might be an interesting team to send him to. Not sure if they're interested in doing us any favors. KG and Curry pairing might be ideal with him coming off the bench for scoring - subbing in for Perkins.
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11/19/2009  4:52 PM
I'm not saying that you don't take a deal in order to move him early, but I am saying that I don't think there's gonna be any takers out there for Curry. His contract is still too big and the economy is still bad. No buyers out there so we end up with Curry still here in 2010.
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11/19/2009  4:58 PM
I know it won't ever happen, but wouldn't it be poetic justice if we got our pick back for Curry? Any deal we make, I hope it gets us at least a solid first round pick along with an expiring contract.
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