fishmike wrote:but he's having a breakout season. I wonder what fans on the Rockets message board were saying about him 10 games into his first season. Sometimes you dont always know after watching 10 games and the NBA summer league.

I'm not exactly sure that people are getting the point of this post.

Take anyone you want who can accomplish that. Point is that we don't have that guy now, so we'd better take a hard look at our strategy.

Saying that you wouldn't give preference to the bigger player though with all else being equal... seems a little backwards because you have to matchup on the other end as well.

Cooch, you love to throw jabs, but I still don't know what the counter argument is. Yeah, the Rockets have won 6 games with a small lineup. Most of their scoring comes from where? The one position where they have a size advantage.

Douglas is also a combo-guard as opposed to a pure point and his stats say he needs some time to adjust. If you take a 6'2 guy, I'd prefer a natural point guard. That said, as I've put out there a million times previously, not a bad pick by Wash, but not expecting the guy to flip the fortunes of the franchise either.

Why is this a heated debate again? Is it my lack of belief that Douglas will turn around the franchise, or my belief that Derozan was a better pick than Hill at the #8 spot that bothers everyone?

There were three articles in the Post over the weekend about how terrible the Knicks are specifically what a bad job Walsh has done, yet it is not kosher to post the same principles here. Not sure I get it.

JohnWallace44 wrote:

fishmike wrote:funny how most of the bigger guys end up getting moved off the ball, even if they arent big enough to be the traditional NBA SG.

Quickness is easily the most important physical aspect to being a bigtime PG in this league. The poster child is Nash. Brooks is just another example. Jennings is following in Nash's footsteps. Chris Paul as well. Give me the quick guy that can create his own space everytime. Rondo is a great role player. Put him on the Suns and they are a 30 win team.

That's a really good point Fish. Sometimes combo guards do get moved off the point if they can't learn to distribute. The difference between Evans and Douglas is that Douglas at the 2 guard makes him tiny, and Evans is still big for a 2 even if he gets no better at playing point. Where does Douglas go? He goes to the bench if he can't learn to play point.

Douglas is not a lottery pick, so that's fine. Still a good pick if he can play minutes off the bench.

I think the model for the combo guard as you like to call it is Sam Cassel. He was never a good "true" PG. He was an average ball handler and passer but my god the dude could score and do so 100 ways. Douglas had that kind of moxy in college. He was the one that wanted the ball late to take the big shots. Sam was always drafted very late in the first round (I think) for the same reason Douglas was no?

I dont want to limit myself to a type of physical player. Derozan hasnt played well. He's looking like Desmond Mason might be his upside but its too early to tell isnt it?

fishmike wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:

fishmike wrote:funny how most of the bigger guys end up getting moved off the ball, even if they arent big enough to be the traditional NBA SG.

Quickness is easily the most important physical aspect to being a bigtime PG in this league. The poster child is Nash. Brooks is just another example. Jennings is following in Nash's footsteps. Chris Paul as well. Give me the quick guy that can create his own space everytime. Rondo is a great role player. Put him on the Suns and they are a 30 win team.

That's a really good point Fish. Sometimes combo guards do get moved off the point if they can't learn to distribute. The difference between Evans and Douglas is that Douglas at the 2 guard makes him tiny, and Evans is still big for a 2 even if he gets no better at playing point. Where does Douglas go? He goes to the bench if he can't learn to play point.

Douglas is not a lottery pick, so that's fine. Still a good pick if he can play minutes off the bench.

look... the game is still won by the team that scores the most points. I think the reason those guys get moved off the ball is because putting the ball in the basket is the premium skill in the league. Rondo isnt a good player if he's not passing to KG, Jesus, Sheed and Pierce... he just isnt. Evans will end up being a SG because he's better scoring with the ball then dribbling with it.

I think the model for the combo guard as you like to call it is Sam Cassel. He was never a good "true" PG. He was an average ball handler and passer but my god the dude could score and do so 100 ways. Douglas had that kind of moxy in college. He was the one that wanted the ball late to take the big shots. Sam was always drafted very late in the first round (I think) for the same reason Douglas was no?

I dont want to limit myself to a type of physical player. Derozan hasnt played well. He's looking like Desmond Mason might be his upside but its too early to tell isnt it?

Ooooh... I like the Cassel comparison. If he can be 50 percent of Cassel that would be incredibly swell