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BRIGGS
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11/16/2009  1:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/16/2009  1:03 AM
He's only a 5-8 PG but he's put together like a rock and is quick as hll. He played well for Wash last year and my bet is he will explode this year and by the end of the year I expect the mock drafts to catch up to him. You will like his name too:)

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11/16/2009  2:17 AM
i heard he got his name cuz his dad lost a bet during the NBA Finals between the Pistons & Lakers.
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11/16/2009  2:22 AM
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11/16/2009  6:08 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/16/2009  6:09 AM
You want a center for X-mas I take it. Not likely...this one I expect to get his degree and be a lottery pick in 2011.
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11/16/2009  9:00 AM
I figured you were going to say that Randall kid for Cal when I saw that you wanted a 5-8 PG Briggs.
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11/16/2009  9:23 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/16/2009  9:23 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:I figured you were going to say that Randall kid for Cal when I saw that you wanted a 5-8 PG Briggs.

What we need is 4-5 guards and wings who have top level speed with the ability to penetrate at will with high IQ toughness and high skill level. If you want to play up and down you need guys who can do it. Were not going to have a top 15 pick in any scenario--so that subtracts a lot of good players. While there WILL be a nice assortment of bigger players --my belief is that many of them go high. I'm looking to #s17-24 prospects.

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11/16/2009  9:30 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:I figured you were going to say that Randall kid for Cal when I saw that you wanted a 5-8 PG Briggs.

What we need is 4-5 guards and wings who have top level speed with the ability to penetrate at will with high IQ toughness and high skill level. If you want to play up and down you need guys who can do it. Were not going to have a top 15 pick in any scenario--so that subtracts a lot of good players. While there WILL be a nice assortment of bigger players --my belief is that many of them go high. I'm looking to #s17-24 prospects.


I agree. I also think we should be looking hard to trade Mobley's contract to a team with extra first rounders for an expiring back. That could save someone like $6-$8mm this year. Thats not chump change.

We need more guys like Toney Douglas. Skilled heady mature guys. Guys that go all out on both ends of the court.

Memphis has extra first rounders

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11/16/2009  9:40 AM
Yeah, Fish, that's a huge point that I hope Donnie gets. Even if we sign two Max guys, we will have to fill out the roster with minimum salary guys unless we can acquire more draft picks. Douglas is a good reserve guard in my eyes. Let's say we get Johnson and Bosh. One of Gallo/Hill/Chandler would be a sub.

We should be able to take the best player available regardless of position. Just hope that the CBA issues force more players than normal into the draft and make that #32 valuable.

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11/16/2009  10:02 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:I figured you were going to say that Randall kid for Cal when I saw that you wanted a 5-8 PG Briggs.

That's one of the kids I like. Randle's just as quick as this kid Thomas only slightly taller at 5'10" (maybe more in shoes) and a much better outside shooter. Randle has some good passing ability as well - think he led the Pac-10 in assists at 5/game. Thomas is pretty good though - was watching him play last night on ESPN before I went to bed. Washington all over Portland St. in a landslide. Randle's definitely a guy to keep an eye on - he's probably done growing but I'd like to see him fill out just a little more. He's rail thin...

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11/16/2009  10:03 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:I figured you were going to say that Randall kid for Cal when I saw that you wanted a 5-8 PG Briggs.

What we need is 4-5 guards and wings who have top level speed with the ability to penetrate at will with high IQ toughness and high skill level. If you want to play up and down you need guys who can do it. Were not going to have a top 15 pick in any scenario--so that subtracts a lot of good players. While there WILL be a nice assortment of bigger players --my belief is that many of them go high. I'm looking to #s17-24 prospects.

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11/16/2009  10:29 AM
We need a PG with tremendous wingspan
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11/16/2009  10:52 AM
JamaicanJetFan wrote:We need a PG with tremendous wingspan

I don't care about wingspan with a G--I want 4 guards who can create and shoot with tremendous speed solid IQ and athletic ability.

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11/16/2009  11:12 AM
BRIGGS wrote:He's only a 5-8 PG but he's put together like a rock and is quick as hll. He played well for Wash last year and my bet is he will explode this year and by the end of the year I expect the mock drafts to catch up to him. You will like his name too:)

Nate Version 2?

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11/16/2009  11:14 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
JamaicanJetFan wrote:We need a PG with tremendous wingspan

I don't care about wingspan with a G--I want 4 guards who can create and shoot with tremendous speed solid IQ and athletic ability.

Somebody missed the joke

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11/16/2009  11:48 AM
Bippity10 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
JamaicanJetFan wrote:We need a PG with tremendous wingspan

I don't care about wingspan with a G--I want 4 guards who can create and shoot with tremendous speed solid IQ and athletic ability.

Somebody missed the joke

I caught it.

That's OK. It just seems like the winning teams have those types of players. I'll believe it until I see another small guard takeover the league.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/16/2009  12:04 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
JamaicanJetFan wrote:We need a PG with tremendous wingspan

I don't care about wingspan with a G--I want 4 guards who can create and shoot with tremendous speed solid IQ and athletic ability.

Somebody missed the joke

I caught it.

That's OK. It just seems like the winning teams have those types of players. I'll believe it until I see another small guard takeover the league.

did you completely miss the 90s and Detroit?

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11/16/2009  12:48 PM
arkrud wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:He's only a 5-8 PG but he's put together like a rock and is quick as hll. He played well for Wash last year and my bet is he will explode this year and by the end of the year I expect the mock drafts to catch up to him. You will like his name too:)

Nate Version 2?


I don't see Nate when I watch him play--he'll be on TV several times this year. He helped impact Wash W-L last year--there is like 3 PGs who play for them--and he has the best scoring ability so the assist numbers are not where they should be--but you can clearly see they could be. I think over focusing on size was the reason why Ty Lawson and Jennings are not knicks. They wanted a big PG. You cant have 5 guys who are around 6 feet but if your guards went 5-9 6-2 6-3 6-5 then you can mix and match. The main theme is speed. The faster you can move the ball and the more space you can create is what will make this style of play work. If you have 4 guys who can break you off the dribble and also shoot it with effeiency--then that is very hard to guard. It gives a guy like Gallo more space to move as well. We need a lot but I can see how I would put this house together now. Really the two best guys in the draft are guys who have superior skills at breaking you off the dribble and their teams have been impacted in the W-L
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11/16/2009  1:24 PM
martin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
JamaicanJetFan wrote:We need a PG with tremendous wingspan

I don't care about wingspan with a G--I want 4 guards who can create and shoot with tremendous speed solid IQ and athletic ability.

Somebody missed the joke

I caught it.

That's OK. It just seems like the winning teams have those types of players. I'll believe it until I see another small guard takeover the league.

did you completely miss the 90s and Detroit?

Did you miss every season since then?

Which team was running out a midget brigade last season? The Lakers or the Magic?

Who were the star point guards in the playoffs last season? Rondo. Rose. Billups.

Why make it difficult for yourself. If you're playing with Tony Parker, then you've got to have Horry/Duncan/Finley and have a bench full of defensive specialists to make up for it.

In today's NBA, it seems to me that if you want to have a winning team and your PG is not as big as shooting guards used to be, then his name had better be Chris Paul.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/16/2009  1:41 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
martin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
JamaicanJetFan wrote:We need a PG with tremendous wingspan

I don't care about wingspan with a G--I want 4 guards who can create and shoot with tremendous speed solid IQ and athletic ability.

Somebody missed the joke

I caught it.

That's OK. It just seems like the winning teams have those types of players. I'll believe it until I see another small guard takeover the league.

did you completely miss the 90s and Detroit?

Did you miss every season since then?

Which team was running out a midget brigade last season? The Lakers or the Magic?

Who were the star point guards in the playoffs last season? Rondo. Rose. Billups.

Why make it difficult for yourself. If you're playing with Tony Parker, then you've got to have Horry/Duncan/Finley and have a bench full of defensive specialists to make up for it.

In today's NBA, it seems to me that if you want to have a winning team and your PG is not as big as shooting guards used to be, then his name had better be Chris Paul.

I think what martin was saying was that IT Joe Dumars and Vinny Johnson were 5-11 6-3 and 6-2 yet were big enough to win multiple championship because they were just good players beyond their lack of height. They were big upfront and small in the backcourt but their guards were just so skilled smart and tough--IT played well above the rim in his early days--that height was not an issue.

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11/16/2009  1:43 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Which team was running out a midget brigade last season? The Lakers or the Magic?

Both: Derek Fisher and Jameer Nelson. Neither will make it back to Finals, right?

Also, you must really hate the Jennings pick for MIL, right?

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