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Elite
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11/10/2009  2:50 PM
The most alarming thing to me over the past few games has got to be Gallanarri's regression. Mostly cuz I own him in my fantasy league but also because I think he is key for the Knicks success.

If I'm D'antoni #1 I'm keepin this kid on the floor as much as possible unless he's flat out exhausted. We need that 3 point threat on the court as much as possible and contrary to popular belief he is NOT a liability on D... maybe if they are playing idiotic "switch everything" defense that never works and he gets caught on a PG with 18 seconds left in the shot clock. But if they play man to man straight up guess who id have to vote #3 on our team for most deflections next to Douglas and Hughes? Rooster.

The kid just doesn't get the ball enough... a lot of it is his fault, some of it his teamates, some of it the coaching staff. You have to work with him on learning how to get open, but you also cannot just run an offense in which he spots up in the corner everytime down the court... I for one would like to see Gallo handling the ball and creating at the top of the key instead of Duhon. Let Duhon spot up in the corner for three instead.

Anyways I just hope they get gallo more involved, everytime he's not on the court I just feel like we have no chance to win... Our best runs in games this season have been centered around Gallo and Harrington. We need the rooster involved!

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11/10/2009  2:52 PM
To me he's still a rookie, so we shouldn't be surprised if he has his ups and downs. I hope the back is holding up okay.
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11/10/2009  2:57 PM
Elite, A) Gallinari is a rookie, B) teams are planning for him now, so they are closing out on him better and they are taking advantage of him on defense.

Also, he has to expand his game with the help of the coaching staff. I am not satisfied with him being solely a 3 point specialist. He needs to mix it up. He needs to be played closer to the basket more often. He needs to grab some boards, especially on defense.

The coaching staff has to put him in a position to succeed as an all-around player. Right now it isn't fair to make him the primary offensive weapon, he isn't ready for that on a night in and out basis. If he is hot, fine, but he shouldn't be counted on to carry that burden.

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11/10/2009  2:59 PM
he needs to be more active along the baseline and flashing through the lane. he could get a number of in-close touches per game if he did that. also needs to drive to the hoop more. he gets too stuck on waiting for a swing or kick pass for the long jumper.
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11/10/2009  3:02 PM
IMO, Gallo is a very good shooter and at times can create his own shot, but is not adept at doing so all the time at this point in his career. So, without a point guard to break down the D or a post up player who demands a double team there are going to be times where he will be neutralized by the defense.

Add to that the Knicks have several players that are not shy about taking shots (open or otherwise) which also will limit Gallo's attempts. Gallo could stand to be more aggressive, and look to create more, but I am ok with him being a ball mover at this point.

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11/10/2009  3:05 PM
Gallo is what he is a good spot up shooter that can get teamates occasionaly involved. He is a team player to a fault that needs the ball and needs to be aggressive otherwise he doesn't belong on the floor because he fades into the background. It has nothing to do with him being a rookie. He isn't athletic and when he has someone like AK47 or an active defender he is going to look very ordinary.

However the coaching stuff is not getting him involved enough, the offense needs to be run through him occasionaly, he needs pick and roll opportunties and he needs to bust his ass and really get down the floor.

I hope his ceiling isn't as a spot up shooter

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11/10/2009  3:08 PM
I think Gallo's struggles can all be attributed to Dudu's actions. This is one thing that I am a little disappointed with MDA. He should be telling the team that everything goes through Gallo. I think Gallo, since he is still essentially a rookie, is trying not to rock the boat. You give him the reigns to the offense and watch this puppy go.

Once he is made the focal point of the offense all the time, then we will see him flourish.

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11/10/2009  3:09 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
Once he is made the focal point of the offense all the time, then we will see him flourish.

As an escape goat?

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11/10/2009  3:10 PM
oohah wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
Once he is made the focal point of the offense all the time, then we will see him flourish.

As an escape goat?

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We have many choices for that role. It can rotate to a different player from week to week.

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11/10/2009  3:13 PM
Harrington is pissed at Gallo's shot attempts and placed wet cement in his sneaks and shorts.

On a more serious note....

The kid doesn't move that well (1) and (2) doesn't seem to have the energy or confidence in his dribble to force the action even if he is a step slow.

When he does put the ball on the floor he gets positive results -- he just doesn't do it enough.

Plus - it looks like he needs to work harder to get the ball (move more effectively off the ball - do a better job of setting up his defender....maybe go back-door on occasion).

His teammates are turds and don't look for him enough -- we have a very selfish bunch on this squad and many of them are playing for their own stats -- not Gallo's. I'm sure there is some bitterness that Gallo is perceived as chosen one and most of the vets probably think they are better than him (at least in their own minds).

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11/10/2009  3:14 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Harrington is pissed at Gallo's shot attempts and placed wet cement in his sneaks and shorts.

On a more serious note....

The kid doesn't move that well (1) and (2) doesn't seem to have the energy or confidence in his dribble to force the action even if he is a step slow.

You try moving well with a bad back and stiff legs.

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11/10/2009  3:25 PM
hey there's also the fact that he simply hasn't shot well the last few games.
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11/10/2009  3:27 PM
Marv wrote:hey there's also the fact that he simply hasn't shot well the last few games.

I agree. I think he forced some of those shots also since he was not getting any touches. At least, the last couple of games.

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11/10/2009  3:39 PM
it's that he's been a little off, the team is totally off as a whole, and plus other teams are recognizing that he's a threat. this is nothing more than a short adjustment period, look for him to average 16.3 per game this season.
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11/10/2009  4:06 PM
gallo just doesn't seem like a "go for mines" type of player. i think when he passes the ball right away, it might not necessarily mean he doesn't want the ball, just that maybe he expects the ball to rotate back eventually with him getting it in a better position. you know? like the way a true ball movement offense is supposed to work? instead, he passes it off and before the ball can rotate back, it gets stuck in someone else's hands. of course, there are times where he absolutely can and should be more aggressive. so from what i've seen, it looks like a combination of lack of aggression, commitment to moving the ball, and over-assertive teammates. he's young, i hope he works it out. i'm more hopeful now than i was before the season.
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11/10/2009  5:04 PM
eViL wrote:gallo just doesn't seem like a "go for mines" type of player. i think when he passes the ball right away, it might not necessarily mean he doesn't want the ball, just that maybe he expects the ball to rotate back eventually with him getting it in a better position. you know? like the way a true ball movement offense is supposed to work? instead, he passes it off and before the ball can rotate back, it gets stuck in someone else's hands. of course, there are times where he absolutely can and should be more aggressive. so from what i've seen, it looks like a combination of lack of aggression, commitment to moving the ball, and over-assertive teammates. he's young, i hope he works it out. i'm more hopeful now than i was before the season.

good stuff evil - hahn said somthing similar about him in his blogcast today

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11/10/2009  5:54 PM
eViL wrote:gallo just doesn't seem like a "go for mines" type of player. i think when he passes the ball right away, it might not necessarily mean he doesn't want the ball, just that maybe he expects the ball to rotate back eventually with him getting it in a better position. you know? like the way a true ball movement offense is supposed to work? instead, he passes it off and before the ball can rotate back, it gets stuck in someone else's hands. of course, there are times where he absolutely can and should be more aggressive. so from what i've seen, it looks like a combination of lack of aggression, commitment to moving the ball, and over-assertive teammates. he's young, i hope he works it out. i'm more hopeful now than i was before the season.

Agreed. Because everything is about me, allow me to tell a quick story.

I used to play with guys that moved the ball real well. I got really good at swinging the ball and then catching a return pass later on in the possession(4 or 5 passes later) off a screen or from a standstill for an open shot. I knew that if I helped move the ball we would eventually all get our shots. Then one day I moved to a more playground type offense at our local YMCA. I learned that if I passed the ball to a teammate I was never seeing it again. It was really tough to adjust too. Now I shoot everytime I touch the ball. Problem solved.

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11/10/2009  6:59 PM
He had one good shooting game and one good assist game. Until he proves it, those are the exceptions and not the rule.
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11/10/2009  10:22 PM
Andrew wrote:IMO, Gallo is a very good shooter and at times can create his own shot, but is not adept at doing so all the time at this point in his career. So, without a point guard to break down the D or a post up player who demands a double team there are going to be times where he will be neutralized by the defense.

Add to that the Knicks have several players that are not shy about taking shots (open or otherwise) which also will limit Gallo's attempts. Gallo could stand to be more aggressive, and look to create more, but I am ok with him being a ball mover at this point.

you nailed it Andrew - without a half-decent PG, the offense really doesnt run and the defense doesn't get broken down, which means games like these for Gallo. Of course he is basically only a rookie and it looks like he COULD develop into a player who will be able to create his own shot, but not right now at this point in his career.

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11/10/2009  11:07 PM
If Gallo's problems are his team mates don't pass him the ball, should the coach call those same players out and say, get Gallo the ball?

Shouldn't our best shooter get plays drawn up and run for him?

If he has a bad shooting night, why is ok for him to put up less shots than Larry 'I have no future here' Hughes?

Why shouldn't the 6th pick in the draft be a regular contributor on a lottery team?

whats going on with Gallo?

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