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Vmart
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10/29/2009  10:15 PM
That should never ever happen. That is considered a waste of valuable PT. How could let that happen is mind boggling.
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10/29/2009  10:44 PM
Agreed. He loves this guy though, don't ask me why...
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10/30/2009  12:27 AM
We need to move this strange creepy character ASAP.
And Mike is all up to the task.
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10/30/2009  12:31 AM
everytime i see Fishlips launching up a 3 i literally cringe... this guy thinks he's Lamar Odom all of a sudden... chill out & just stay your fish ass in the fish tank where u belong!
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10/30/2009  12:47 AM
Vmart wrote:That should never ever happen. That is considered a waste of valuable PT. How could let that happen is mind boggling.

I'm not crazy about him either, but who's he taking minutes away from?? Hughs, hill, laundry The clean up man....

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10/30/2009  1:01 AM
Well Darko got hurt and Jeffries is our only other "center", so it is understandable that he played alot. My main problem with JJ now is that he still hesitates to shoot the 3. If you are not going to shoot it, then stop going out to the 3 pt line. Otwerwise, let it fly. You worked all summer on it, have confidence in it until it becomes clear that you just can't make the shot.
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TMS
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10/30/2009  1:02 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:That should never ever happen. That is considered a waste of valuable PT. How could let that happen is mind boggling.

I'm not crazy about him either, but who's he taking minutes away from?? Hughs, hill, laundry The clean up man....


Hill should be seeing minutes... we drafted this kid 8th overall & he can't see minutes over Fishlips? come on.

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10/30/2009  5:19 AM
Darko at center needs to start along with Gallo at the 3 and Lee at the 4, bring Al off the bench.
Just try what seems a bit obvious.
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10/30/2009  6:58 AM
He actually did an okay job guarding Wade
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10/30/2009  8:01 AM
No more Jefferies. He is atrocious! Trade him for a bag of nuts.
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10/30/2009  8:02 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:Darko at center needs to start along with Gallo at the 3 and Lee at the 4, bring Al off the bench.
Just try what seems a bit obvious.

I agree. Darko should be staring! He is a #2 pick afterall. I like that frontcourt. Then add Nate and TD in the backcourt and go with it. The bench can be Harrington, Duhon, Chandler and Hill. IMO much better team all around.

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10/30/2009  8:38 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:Darko at center needs to start along with Gallo at the 3 and Lee at the 4, bring Al off the bench.
Just try what seems a bit obvious.

I agree. Darko should be staring! He is a #2 pick afterall. I like that frontcourt. Then add Nate and TD in the backcourt and go with it. The bench can be Harrington, Duhon, Chandler and Hill. IMO much better team all around.

Well, I'd start giving TD 10-15 mins a game (and more if he performs). If he does well, then I'd start him, but not yet. Let him build some comfort first, as we can all see he has adjusted a lot so far. Starting him eventually though might do wonders to get the opposing team out of its rhythm as he a ball hound. Hopefully Nate gets back to his preseason form on D, thank God he is playing for a contract.

On another forum people mentioned bringing Hill in for his defensive presence (like maybe to give spot minutes backing up Darko). Also to bring him in to slow the game down once in a while by allowing him to post up. Will give him some confidence and if he has space to operate he'll perform much better imo.

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10/30/2009  8:48 AM
He was one of the best looking players we had during the preseason for what its worth.
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10/30/2009  9:57 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:He was one of the best looking players we had during the preseason for what its worth.

Yes, but he is reverted to mid-season form already!

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10/30/2009  10:03 AM
Not only was it a disgrace that Jared Jeffries played so many minutes....

It was also a disgrace that...

Despite Al Harrington playing well he barely saw time in the second half (if I recall).
Despite Darko torching the Heat on 2 low post moves....we never saw it again. Yes, he banged his knee, and Mike said there was no reason to risk him, but I'm talking in general here. Why not go back to that play! Did we see it in the first place because the Knicks decided to break from the chuck and duck for a few plays? Was it even planned? Probably NOT by the coach.
Despite being BLOWN OUT BY 30 POINTS WITH SEVEN MINUTES TO GO (yes, I must shout), Douglas, Hill, and Landry were still ON THE BENCH.

We're losing that game no matter WHAT but Mike really wasn't sharp at all. Was he too high watching Gallo hit threes to remember he had an entire team to coach!? I just don't know but I hated it. I hated the first half chuck and duck. I hated the total lack of defensive commitment (something we all had to know wouldn't stick despite a few good preseason defensive games).

Tied at 46. Down by 30 about 15 game minutes later.

I also was FURIOUS with how they gave up in the third Q leading to Wade and JO dunking on us like it was practice - because the Knicks weren't even running with their man they were just standing and watching them score all with their heads down! INEXCUSEABLE!

Where is the pride? There is none.

Very long season here...another 30-win season...but we kind of already knew this.

For the players to have that "It's a throwaway year who cares I probably won't be here next year anyway." attitude is just infuriating. Do these idiots not know they're playing for a NEW CONTRACT be it here in New York or on another team? I guess not. No wonder why we suck. There's not a brain cell on the entire team.

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10/30/2009  11:17 AM
Cosmic wrote:Despite Al Harrington playing well he barely saw time in the second half (if I recall).

I have to seriously disagree there. Lots of bad doubling, switching, not getting back on D, passing the ball to DWade on inbounds, bad shot-taking. The dude is FULL of mental mistakes.

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10/30/2009  11:36 AM
i think d'antoni likes him and trusts him on the court despite his lack of game. he could help a playoff team in 10-15 min spurts. not too many players on the team that know where to go on the court and knows how the coach wants to play.
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10/30/2009  11:42 AM
Cosmic wrote:Not only was it a disgrace that Jared Jeffries played so many minutes....

It was also a disgrace that...

Despite Al Harrington playing well he barely saw time in the second half (if I recall).
Despite Darko torching the Heat on 2 low post moves....we never saw it again. Yes, he banged his knee, and Mike said there was no reason to risk him, but I'm talking in general here. Why not go back to that play! Did we see it in the first place because the Knicks decided to break from the chuck and duck for a few plays? Was it even planned? Probably NOT by the coach.
Despite being BLOWN OUT BY 30 POINTS WITH SEVEN MINUTES TO GO (yes, I must shout), Douglas, Hill, and Landry were still ON THE BENCH.

We're losing that game no matter WHAT but Mike really wasn't sharp at all. Was he too high watching Gallo hit threes to remember he had an entire team to coach!? I just don't know but I hated it. I hated the first half chuck and duck. I hated the total lack of defensive commitment (something we all had to know wouldn't stick despite a few good preseason defensive games).

Tied at 46. Down by 30 about 15 game minutes later.

I also was FURIOUS with how they gave up in the third Q leading to Wade and JO dunking on us like it was practice - because the Knicks weren't even running with their man they were just standing and watching them score all with their heads down! INEXCUSEABLE!

Where is the pride? There is none.

Very long season here...another 30-win season...but we kind of already knew this.

For the players to have that "It's a throwaway year who cares I probably won't be here next year anyway." attitude is just infuriating. Do these idiots not know they're playing for a NEW CONTRACT be it here in New York or on another team? I guess not. No wonder why we suck. There's not a brain cell on the entire team.

I did not think our D was that terrible the first half, but our intensity and focus seemed to vanish in thin air in the 2nd half.

As for Darko- he showed us a nice hook with with either hand, and then did nothing on the inside. He seems to have some accuracy with the lefty hook- why not see how much we can get from him with it before looking somewhere else. He should be fast enough to get down the court and establish position for it. He should not be taking any jumpers at this point, by the way.

Darko also has some great hands when playing man to man on D, and is a much better passer than I expected him to be. I just hope he can remain injury free.

The team needs a floor leader- someone who can lead by example but also get in the face of guys who are not performing like they should. The mental mistakes are annoying- the lack of intensity really upsets me though. I think this is why Garnett has meant so much to Boston- he is the kind of guy who would not let this happen if he was on our team, IMO.

Defense is all about pride and intensity. I think you saw some of that in the first half, but when the Heat turned on their burners, we did not rise to the challenge.

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10/30/2009  3:55 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:He was one of the best looking players we had during the preseason for what its worth.

like i told u during preseason, Fishlips is, has been & always will be a scrub.

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10/30/2009  3:57 PM
TMS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:He was one of the best looking players we had during the preseason for what its worth.

like i told u during preseason, Fishlips is, has been & always will be a scrub.

As usual TMS, I agree.

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