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10/29/2009  6:56 PM
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1)Griffin
Oct. 29: I'll factor in his injury, and his lack of production because of it, next week. For now, he is our top guy because of what he's done up to today. Clippers fans have to hope Griffin does not start fearing "the curse" and suddenly change the way he plays. I expect him to be terrific when he comes back.

2)Blair
Oct. 29: The league is filled with players who overcome obstacles on their path to greatness. So it could be with Blair, who is undersized for his position and has had ACL surgery on both knees. His length, quickness and great hands help him play with bigger guys, his feel for the game drives him to important spots before others get there, and his strength and toughness give him the advantage when they do arrive. He dominated in his first regular-season outing, giving the Spurs 14 and 11 in just 23 minutes against the Hornets.

3)Evans
Oct. 29: Evans is proof that the ability to change speeds can be just as effective as having a faster top gear than most. His crafty tactics make it very tough for defenders to stay in front of him, and his size and length help him finish plays at the rim. He did not score efficiently in the preseason, due in part to his poor outside shooting, but he'll get better as a shooter and will improve his shot selection as the season unfolds. He struggled in the opener at OKC, scoring 10 points on 16 shots and holding the ball far too long on many possessions.

4)Flynn
Oct. 29: Flynn is tough to project, as he's competing for playing time with a strong player in Ramon Sessions. But whether he's starting or coming off the bench, Flynn's leadership and quickness should earn him quality minutes and solid production. Like Evans, and Derrick Rose last season, his jump shot should improve as the season evolves. Flynn scored 18 points with 2 assists and 3 turnovers, and made some clutch plays late, as Minny came back to win their opener against the Nets.

5)Williams
Oct. 29: Williams should be a stat stuffer who gets a lot of playing time in Jersey. He also does nice things that won't show up in the box score, like make "Gretzkys" (the pass before the assist) and play solid defense on the perimeter. His athleticism makes up for some skill deficiencies, and his motor seems to run hot very often. Surprisingly, he made over 42 percent of his 3s in seven preseason games. And his 15 points and 10 rebounds in the Nets' opener in Minnesota showed what he's capable of doing all season.

6)Curry
Oct. 29: Curry struggled as a shooter both this summer and in the preseason -- his true shooting percentage was below 50 in seven preseason games. This has much to do with shot selection. Remember how Kevin Durant chucked up bad shot after bad shot as a rookie (and finished with a 51.9 TS percentage)? Curry appears to be doing the same thing. On the plus side, he has silenced concerns about his lack of passing skills. As Curry applies more discipline to his game, his numbers will improve. In the Warriors' opening-night loss to Houston, he scored 14 points and dished out 7 assists with just two turnovers.

7)Harden
Oct. 29: Harden's biggest weakness, to this point, has been his shooting -- which is ironic because he's a shooting guard. However, he is an excellent shooter who should find his rhythm soon. In the meantime, he does all the other things. As a veteran player told me the other day, "That kid is smooth." Harden scored 5 points in 13 minutes in the Thunder's opener against Sacramento.

8)Casspi
Oct. 29: Don't be surprised that Casspi played so well this preseason. After all, he started in a Euroleague Final Four and a championship game when he was just 19, and he has played in countless other important international and Euroleague games. This preseason, Casspi led all rookies in 3s made (11) and in shooting percentage from deep (11-for-21, 52.4 percent), while averaging over 11 ppg. The injury to Francisco Garcia allows for Casspi to get serious minutes early in the season. He took advantage in the Kings' opener -- his 15 points on 7-for-9 shooting was one of the few bright spots for Sacramento.

9)Lawson
Oct. 29: Lawson looked a lot more like the guy who dominated at UNC this preseason than the one we saw in Vegas. He was the only rookie to compile an assist-to-turnover ratio above 3-to-1. He dominated on defense, too, grabbing four steals in one game and five in another. All this while shooting better than 50 percent from the field. He's just what Denver needs coming off the bench. Had a terrific first game, tallying 17 points and 6 assists in the Nuggets' opening-night win.

10)DeRozan
Oct. 29: DeRozan showed excellent basketball intelligence this summer, rare for a young shooting guard. Consider that in his first three preseason games, he took eight 3s and seven free throws, and in his past five games he took only three 3s and attempted 32 free throws. There are scores of guards who can stand outside and launch 3s, but not nearly as many who can both shoot and slash. Seeing DeRozan slash in November and December would be a good start. He scored 8 points with 5 boards in 24 solid minutes in the Raptors' opening-night win over Cleveland.

Jordan Hill #22
July 22: The current lack of an identity on the Knicks' front line suggests that Hill will get minutes. And he's the type of player who will perform better when surrounded by veterans who understand spacing and timing. Hill will compete at a high level, and his size and agility combined with his effort will translate well to the Knicks' system.

Tony Douglas #25
Oct. 29: Scored 3 points in 6 minutes in their opening loss at Miami.
July 22, 2009

July 22: Douglas may have been the worst shooter on the worst team in Vegas. But his ability to run a team and defend his position ranked near the top. His shooting woes likely will not continue on the Knicks, and his playmaking and ball-hawking skills will translate into decent minutes.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/30/2009  1:14 AM
I expect Douglas to turn into no worse than the 3rd best pg in this draft. The kid is the best defender of the position and is solid at running the team. Once his offense gets into gear, he is going to be like another David Lee pick (a guy picked at the end of the 1st round who should have been a lottery pick).

It is tough to tell with Hill. We probably won't know what we have with him until next year.

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10/30/2009  4:02 AM
i love these projections 1 game into the season. LOL
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10/30/2009  8:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/30/2009  8:46 AM
The Game, between Evans, Lawson, Flynn, Curry; four of the top ten on this list, which two do you think Douglas will outperform?
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/30/2009  12:14 PM
I wonder what the rankings will look like after two games?
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10/30/2009  12:21 PM
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10/30/2009  1:27 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:The Game, between Evans, Lawson, Flynn, Curry; four of the top ten on this list, which two do you think Douglas will outperform?

I don't consider Evans a point guard. I think Douglas will have more defensive impact than Fynn and Curry. I think Curry will be the best of the group. Lawson will probably be second. I think Douglas can have as much impact as Flynn once he gets his shot going.

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11/4/2009  5:57 PM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/rookies/rankings?season=2010

Here's the update after a week of NBA play...

1 Brandon Jennings
2 Jonny Flynn
3 Stephen Curry
4 Ty Lawson
5 DeJuan Blair
6 Omri Casspi
7 Chase Budinger
8 DeMar DeRozan
9 Jeff Teague
10 Terrence Williams

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/4/2009  6:20 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/rookies/rankings?season=2010

Here's the update after a week of NBA play...

1 Brandon Jennings
2 Jonny Flynn
3 Stephen Curry
4 Ty Lawson
5 DeJuan Blair
6 Omri Casspi
7 Chase Budinger
8 DeMar DeRozan
9 Jeff Teague
10 Terrence Williams

Damn, we had an opportunity to draft three of the top five. And two of them should definitely be Knicks.

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11/4/2009  10:44 PM
We can sugar coat it anyway we want but my bet is we would trade both Hill and Douglas for Ty Lawson or Jennings in a second. We blew this draft--maybe in a few years these guys will be good players???
TD kind of reminds me of Royal Ivey. A good solid back up type but he doesnt have the type of talent to be on a Lawson Curry Teague Jennings level. I think it's been said a few times--this was a PG draft--we had a lot of leverage and we didnt use it. My guess is they were trying to be sneaky with that TD choice--believing he was just as good as players above and hit the jackpot with Hill. If Solomon Jones gets PT with the shtty pacers I have to believe Hill should be given a chance.
Hughes was given a chance --were not good enough not to play a lottery pick.
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11/4/2009  11:01 PM
Buddinger will be on that list at the end of the season and anyone that said he was the second coming of Scalabrine please watch a Rockets game.
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11/5/2009  1:59 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Buddinger will be on that list at the end of the season and anyone that said he was the second coming of Scalabrine please watch a Rockets game.

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11/5/2009  7:24 AM
anyone who called budinger that clearly never saw him play, and fell pray to more of the empty stereotyping based on people looking remotely alike, and having one similar attribute in their game...maybe...

budinger's athletic ability>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>scalabrine

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11/5/2009  10:02 AM
I didn't like Buddinger because of the way I saw him disappear in games that I watched live at the Garden, and on TV. Plus you've seen Reddick and Adam MoMo Mustache have a very hard time in the NBA.

Good job by the kid coming out and playing like he has.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/11/2009  12:25 PM
#1 - Lawson - Most rookies coming out of college aren't adept at attacking ball screens, but Lawson is. His incredible quickness, low center of gravity, strong frame and burst of speed coming off a slower dribble make him extremely difficult to contend with in ball-screen action. The key for him is not so much monitoring the screener's defender as it is reading what is going on under the rim. If Lawson overpenetrates, he can get into trouble. So he needs to be looking inside to see where the help defenders are as he's using a probe dribble on top of the screen.

#2 - Flynn -
Flynn started the season making four of his first six 3-point shots. Then he hit just two of his next 13 from that distance. Like most young players (and far too many vets), Flynn's struggles from deep are due to both shot selection and mechanics. When Flynn catches and shoots from 3, his shot looks smooth and in rhythm. But problems occur when he tries the 3 off a dribble, especially coming from ball-screen action, where Flynn's defender goes under a screen. His balance on those shots has been poor, with his lower body getting ahead of his upper body on the release, causing him to fall backward on the shot. At this point, Flynn would be better served asking for a screen much further inside the line, so if the defender goes under the screen, Flynn has a more makeable shot. Or he can choose simply not to shoot that shot.

#3 - Evans - Like any rookie, Evans has a lot to learn about five-on-five defense -- he always must be alert to where the ball is and where the biggest scoring threats are on the floor. However, he has a catlike awareness when he's around the ball -- his burst of quickness on steal attempts is very impressive. Combine that with his superlong arms, and he is a dangerous guy to make casual passes around. Because of Evans' size, scouts have struggled to figure out just whom he plays like. He does not have the elite athleticism of players such as LeBron James or Dwyane Wade. To my eyes, he's more like a mutant Tony Parker -- he's terrific at getting to the rim and being creative once he gets there. He's not much of a finisher now, but he will be, and if he learns to make some midrange jumpers while throwing in a floater or two, he'll end up being one of the top paint scorers in basketball.

#4 - Jennings -
Jennings does two things that greatly enhance his ability to score: He can use his right hand to finish plays and can make midrange jumpers. On his right-handed finishes, he sets up the shot with excellent body control, hitting his defender before scooping it in. And on his midrange jumpers, I like how he has showed the ability to jump straight up and land with balance, something few young players do. It's solid basketball mechanics. Now he just needs to do it more often, instead of shooting lean-backs that almost always fall short.

#5 - Blair - Although Blair is proving he can be a force in the paint on this level, he is being forced to adjust his game to the taller guys he is facing. He's specifically having trouble finishing around the rim over players who have bodied up with their arms outstretched. He's kind of "throwing and hoping" at this point. Eventually he'll learn to power up over them or add a slight fade to his shot that would somewhat mitigate a defender's reach advantage.

#6 - Buddinger - Even though he had a very poor shooting night in Dallas (1-for-7) on Tuesday, the Rockets must be thrilled that he had nine rebounds. Lots of young players lose sight of the big picture when their shot isn't dropping, so it's good to see Budinger find other ways to contribute.

#7 - Casspi - Casspi is rounding into this class's version of Rudy Fernandez -- a 3-point threat whose energy fills an arena. His 3-point shooting has been top-notch, but he also brings a defensive intensity rarely seen in rookies. He plays with no fear, even when guarding All-Stars (something he routinely asks to do). His spirit in this area already has impacted the franchise.

#8 - Curry - Although Curry's numbers are dropping, I like that he's showing better control. In time, I suspect we'll see a quicker trigger and more daring drives, but lately he's been a calm vessel in a very rough sea. Slowing down and learning to read the game will allow him to play more effectively when he starts speeding up.

#9 - Teague - In a loaded point guard class, there might be not be a quicker and more dynamic driver than Teague. But, and this is a big but, he needs to learn how to read where the help action is coming from before he starts his drive. A recent game against the Nuggets taught him that lesson, as he finished 1-for-9 with most of his misses coming on shots in the paint after strong dribble-drives. A floater, teardrop or simple pull-up jumper would serve Teague well here, because he's next to impossible to stay in front of.

#10- Harden - As I've written before, Harden plays at a veteran's pace. He can go at a pretty good speed, but he goes there only when he needs to. His slower, steadier pace allows him to read defenses better, and his ability to find a crease in the defense and execute the proper pass is of great value to the Thunder. As he evolves as a scorer, his assists will increase because help defenders will become more alert to his moves.

One for the Douglas lovers... your guy is up to #12, one slot ahead of.... drum roll please.... DeMar DeRozan

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/11/2009  2:50 PM
Curry is getting benched
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11/11/2009  3:01 PM
McK1 wrote:Curry is getting benched

Bust?

Why? Haven't seen games.

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11/11/2009  3:02 PM
surprised at anything that happens in Golden State?
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/11/2009  3:44 PM
I've suffered through a few Warriors games. About a 1/3 of the time, Curry looks like the best guard on the court, certainly the best play maker, on the court. 1/3 of the time, he looks lost/overwhelmed. And, 1/3 of the time, he's playing okay ball but no one else is. He's averaging a little under 10pt and 6 assists, and shooting roughly .45% 2s and 3s, and averaging about 30 minutes. He's had a few steals and his turnovers are low but his D, esp. against larger guards, is still a liability.

As far as I know, he's still starting and, from my perspective, given the mess that is the Warriors, he's still in the running for ROY. It's unlikely but if the Warriors start playing like a team, I can see Curry ending the year with with something like 12pt/8 assists, which is pretty good for a rookie PG. If the Warriors continue to meltdown and keep Jackson/Nelson, I suspect the fireworks will be bright enough that no one will even remember that Curry is on the team, regardless of his play.

Nice Curry profile in today's NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/sports/basketball/11warriors.html

I predict Curry goes 16pt/6assists/3steals/2TO at MSG.

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11/11/2009  3:48 PM
The Warriors just need to shuffle the deck again. They have the pieces to build a serious team. I wouldn't let the playoffs get too far out of sight if I were them before making a move.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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