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EwingsGlass
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10/22/2009  4:44 PM
So, Newsday is moving to a subscription model requiring payment to view their webcontent. Completely ridiculous. I like reading Alan Hahn's articles, but not enough to subscribe to the other crap they write. I am curious whether Hahn's articles/blog will be part of the unrestricted content on the site.

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kam77
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10/22/2009  4:58 PM
NEWSDAY is stupid. No wonder they are owned by Cablevision which also owns the NY Knicks.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
BRIGGS
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10/22/2009  5:06 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:

So, Newsday is moving to a subscription model requiring payment to view their webcontent. Completely ridiculous. I like reading Alan Hahn's articles, but not enough to subscribe to the other crap they write. I am curious whether Hahn's articles/blog will be part of the unrestricted content on the site.

Wow sounds like a discussion i had online 12 years ago and almost everyone was on the same page. I will NEVER EVER pay for content like a newspaper or a magazine online EVER or the radio. I haven't seen Howard Stern in years--guess what who cares???? there is way more than ENOUGH FREE content online that--remember you have to PAY to get online right????--to keep you more than occupied. Now if you have to pay to get online then start having to pay for every service--then the whole deal goes bad. People don't have the money to pay for online news or anything else for that matter. Pay for view cotent like Newsday will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER work. Might as well sell the paper.
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martin
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10/22/2009  5:07 PM
Wow, what an idiotic move.
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Moonangie
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10/22/2009  5:09 PM
I pay for the New York Times online. But it's well worth the $15 per year. No more recycling newsprint. I wouldn't pay shyte for Alan's articles, though I sometimes read them.
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10/22/2009  5:20 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by EwingsGlass:

So, Newsday is moving to a subscription model requiring payment to view their webcontent. Completely ridiculous. I like reading Alan Hahn's articles, but not enough to subscribe to the other crap they write. I am curious whether Hahn's articles/blog will be part of the unrestricted content on the site.

Wow sounds like a discussion i had online 12 years ago and almost everyone was on the same page. I will NEVER EVER pay for content like a newspaper or a magazine online EVER or the radio. I haven't seen Howard Stern in years--guess what who cares???? there is way more than ENOUGH FREE content online that--remember you have to PAY to get online right????--to keep you more than occupied. Now if you have to pay to get online then start having to pay for every service--then the whole deal goes bad. People don't have the money to pay for online news or anything else for that matter. Pay for view cotent like Newsday will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER work. Might as well sell the paper.
totally agree. All the *information* is available elsewhere. All your paying for is someone's opinion. Its insulting to me.

Good point on the Howard Stern thing. I used to listen also. When it was gone it was gone.

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10/22/2009  5:25 PM
Posted by Moonangie:

I pay for the New York Times online. But it's well worth the $15 per year. No more recycling newsprint. I wouldn't pay shyte for Alan's articles, though I sometimes read them.

you do?

that's interesting, since i believe the entire site is free now.

they did away with times select about 3 years ago, i think.
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10/22/2009  5:42 PM
I used to pay for the Times Online and I pay for ESPN-Insider

That's pretty much it
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EwingsGlass
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10/22/2009  5:46 PM
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/newsday-com-moves-to-subscriber-model-1.1539582

Link for anyone interested. $15 for the NYTimes is a lot different than $5 per week or $260 per year for Long Island Newsday. This "Debbie Krenek" who is Senior VP/Digital seems to be dropping some big turds on the management of this paper. The site is ugly and has terrible infrastructure. Now their pricing model is absurd. It's a shame, cause I did enjoy Hahn's articles.
Beginning Wednesday, most of Newsday.com content will only be available to subscribers of Optimum Online, Newsday, or those willing to pay for it.

Those who are not customers of Optimum Online or the newspaper - both owned by Bethpage-based Cablevision Systems Corp. - will have to pay a $5 weekly fee. However, nonpaying customers will have access to some of newsday.com's information, including the home page, school closings, weather, obituaries, classified and entertainment listings. There also will be some limited access to Newsday stories.

Newsday described the move as one that would create a "pioneering Web model," combining the newspaper's newsgathering services with Cablevision's electronic distribution capabilities. About 75 percent of Long Island households are Newsday home delivery or Cablevision online customers or both, according to Newsday. Optimum Online customers total 2.5 million in the New York area, the paper said.

"We are excited about this model because in addition to a unique ability to immediately reach about 75 percent of Long Island households, we believe the hyper-local approach is right for Long Island," said Debby Krenek, Newsday managing editor and senior vice president/digital.

The new strategy comes as newspapers have been scrambling to replace the advertising-based model after years of steep revenue decline. Charging viewers for online content has been debated in the newspaper industry in the past few years.

Jack Myers of Jack Myers Media Business Report, a Manhattan-based economic research firm, said, "In the long term, it's a zero-sum game. Basically what you are doing is you are shutting off younger audiences from getting access and becoming fans of your content, so it strikes me as a pretty short-term protective measure that will be a great case study for the industry."

However, John Morton, head of the Morton Research Inc., a Silver Spring, Md.-based media consulting firm, said the current model of free online content is not a "rational model."

"Despite the false premise that has been floating around for the last 19 years, that information on the Internet wants to be free, [it] is just not true," Morton said. "People have always been willing to pay for information they have felt was useful to them."
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kam77
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10/22/2009  5:47 PM
I get Optimum Online.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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10/22/2009  5:55 PM
^me too. i like how they're playing it up as a 20$ VALUE, FOR FREE!!!! W000T
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JesseDark
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10/22/2009  6:01 PM
Their new web layout sucks, so I know I'd never pay to read their content. The layout is almost as confusing as the way the newspaper used to be. Back in the day I use to work there and the most common complaint was that the newspaper was too confusing. They now have a website to match.
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10/22/2009  6:27 PM
Newsday has no choice. It's either go out of business, or try a new model. Only problem I see is that they're charging way too much for their content. The bottom line is advertisers aren't paying squat anymore. Ad Budgets are being axed left and right in this economy, so paying for content seems logical. Should be interesting to see if more media outlets start doing this, and if "the people" will tolerate it. I think "the people" will pass on paying for content. There will be too much free content from the little start ups for them to reach into their pockets. I think our traditional media outlets must downsize in a big way to make squeezed ad revenues profitable.
kam77
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10/22/2009  6:31 PM
Hahn's star has fallen anyway.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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10/22/2009  6:31 PM
given that I am in the media biz, I will say 2 things

1 - don't give them a hard time for trying to charge for content. The free model is ruining things because you do get what you pay for - I cite that garbage SI piece posted in the other thread as being from a scout

2 - clearly, they aren't able to monetize their site. They have great traffic and should look to bundle offerings for local business for both cable & web. It is being done as one of the div's of my company is in broadcast and has such an effort.
JohnWallace44
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10/22/2009  6:32 PM
Can't they just merge with the Post or the Daily News?
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
kam77
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10/22/2009  6:34 PM
Do we really want to believe Cablevision is hurting? They should just advertise their cable and subsidize the paper.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
VDesai
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10/22/2009  8:55 PM
Isn't the Times free?

This definitely is not gonna work. There are too many NYC papers and no one even reads Newsday anyway
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10/23/2009  12:28 AM
Wow, the internet is all about free stuff, all they're gonna do is hurt their revenue. Being ad supported is the only way the other news sites make their money. No one's going to pay for news when they can get it for free.
orangeblobman
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10/23/2009  1:13 AM
HERE IS THE QUESTION

i cant even imagine what type of insane nut job would want to pay money for this.
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