Posted by orangeblobman:

blair 17/10, in 14 minutes, superstar

this is a BUST game. get with the program.

Posted by orangeblobman:

Posted by martin:

Posted by orangeblobman:

blair 17/10, in 14 minutes, superstar

this is a BUST game. get with the program.

damn i'm slipping on the reading comp this week

i would edit thread title to include BUST but can't cause Bip01 still working on that functionality.

javale mcgee 10/14 against cleveland

24min 2pts, 1-3fg, 3rebs, 3to, 1 blk

i don't know, i just don't think he has the lower body strength to compete in this league. i would trade him and anyone else on our roster to get channing frye. did you see him in phoenix last night? 29pts 4-5 3pts. he is a game changer. he was an unrestricted free agent this summer and we missed our chance. would phoenix trade frye for any two players on our roster right now? no. we're stuck with javale mcgee.

I'm just pumped about out own team and young players. Lee going for 19/15. Nate with 5 steals. Gallo drilling 3's and living at the FT line. Knicks are going to win like 75 games this year

Posted by martin:

Posted by orangeblobman:

Posted by martin:

Posted by orangeblobman:

blair 17/10, in 14 minutes, superstar

this is a BUST game. get with the program.

damn i'm slipping on the reading comp this week

i would edit thread title to include BUST but can't cause Bip01 still working on that functionality.

rofl bip01.

The thing with Holiday is that he's a project and that was known going in.

Hill is going to ride the pine on a bottom five team in the league. That's rough.

Derozan was the pick. Layden couldn't draft or trade, IT couldn't trade or sign FA's, and Walsh does nothing... maybe the next GM will get it right.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

The thing with Holiday is that he's a project and that was known going in.

Hill is going to ride the pine on a bottom five team in the league. That's rough.

Derozan was the pick. Layden couldn't draft or trade, IT couldn't trade or sign FA's, and Walsh does nothing... maybe the next GM will get it right.

Dude, seriously, if you don't like the plan that's fine, that's your prerogative.
You can complain about the drafting too, whatever.
But you can't say Walsh has done nothing. 2 years ago this roster was full of
bloatted contracts noone would want that hamstrung this organization from having
any sort of flexibility towards making any serious improvements either by trade or
by FA market.
The NY Knicks were where bad contracts went to die. A slow, painful death.
I think 3 years ago we had like 3 of the top 10 contracts or something like that.
We had the highest payroll in the league. Do you think that gets unwound over-night?

Now we're nearly out of that mess. Fine Jeffries is overpaid, and yes, I can't stand
to see him get minutes as much as anybody else, Hughes is bad but expiring.
Curry is really the only albatross-like contract and that is coming up next year.
(and personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Walsh succeeds in voiding or negotiating out of it).

So don't say he's done nothing. At least now we have players on the team, while
not all-stars, at least are getting paid reasonably and could be included in deals
to make the team better. Chill out. What's the worst that can happen?
At least let Walsh make his splash before whining about it. If he goes and maxes out
a non-tier 1 talent like Michael Redd or something like that, I'll be right there with you.
But for now realize that management is just now recovering from a contract induced paralysis.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Posted by Panos:

Posted by JohnWallace44:

The thing with Holiday is that he's a project and that was known going in.

Hill is going to ride the pine on a bottom five team in the league. That's rough.

Derozan was the pick. Layden couldn't draft or trade, IT couldn't trade or sign FA's, and Walsh does nothing... maybe the next GM will get it right.

Dude, seriously, if you don't like the plan that's fine, that's your prerogative.
You can complain about the drafting too, whatever.
But you can't say Walsh has done nothing. 2 years ago this roster was full of
bloatted contracts noone would want that hamstrung this organization from having
any sort of flexibility towards making any serious improvements either by trade or
by FA market.
The NY Knicks were where bad contracts went to die. A slow, painful death.
I think 3 years ago we had like 3 of the top 10 contracts or something like that.
We had the highest payroll in the league. Do you think that gets unwound over-night?

Now we're nearly out of that mess. Fine Jeffries is overpaid, and yes, I can't stand
to see him get minutes as much as anybody else, Hughes is bad but expiring.
Curry is really the only albatross-like contract and that is coming up next year.
(and personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Walsh succeeds in voiding or negotiating out of it).

So don't say he's done nothing. At least now we have players on the team, while
not all-stars, at least are getting paid reasonably and could be included in deals
to make the team better. Chill out. What's the worst that can happen?
At least let Walsh make his splash before whining about it. If he goes and maxes out
a non-tier 1 talent like Michael Redd or something like that, I'll be right there with you.
But for now realize that management is just now recovering from a contract induced paralysis.

Panos, I just believe that its overrated a bit that he's such a genius for being able to trade two of the league's top ten scorers at the time for Tim Thomas and Al Harrington.

Plus we gave him a pass because Mobley's deal was supposed to be an asset... what happened there?

Re: the last two drafts, just line up all the players selected after our picks and throw darts. I bet you do better than Donnie did.

Any GM can sit there and wait for contracts to end.

The Nate/Lee situations couldn't have been botched much more either. We should have traded them both before the deadline for something of value. Now we can't trade them (see 1 year deal rules) and we can't really resign them either. What do we gain by having them play this year?

Saying we have "players" on the team is a Mets fan argument. Its like all those people who call into the radio shows pining for David Murphy. Dude has a 300 on base percentage and plays first base. Same thing with all the Knicks. Awww... Douglas tries hard? Awww... Hill has energy? Come the hell on, this is the NBA. These dudes are showing nothing to this point in terms of being impact players. Clap your hands all you want for Donnie collecting guys who are going to be 9/10 guys off the bench all their lives. I'm not. We should have any combination of far superior players from the last two drafts, but we have a sleepy GM who gets repeatedly schooled by smarter, younger competition.

Just answer me this. Aside from Curry, Jeffries and Hughes, who on the roster makes more than they are worth?

Zach Randolph and Jamal Crawford are not and will never be top 10 scorers. Furthermore, Zach has proven his numbers are worthless. Walsh's trades are not overrated. The fact is he created a plan and stuck to his plan through everything. He went about to making his plan reality by making those trades. Whether you like the plan/his moves or not is a different story but saying that what he did is overrated is false. It's not overrated to actually have a plan (as opposed to Isiah) and going about it the way you want it to. And really, what's so bad about cap space? I still see complaints but nobody telling me why it would be better to lose while capped out instead of losing with some cap space.