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coolbeans
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10/10/2009  3:25 PM
knicks didnt draft gallo to develop him they drafted him cause they needed help now, and most likely passed up on players with higher ups just to draft gallo. in order to get production early. gallo needs to run the floor with our other athletic legs. try to get a quick two on the run and if the defense catches up kickout for a three.
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10/10/2009  3:33 PM
SO the same thing should happen with Hill he was a high lottery pick also. I would put our three lottery pick frye, gallnari, and Hill is the three worst pics by a team in the lottery three years in a row. I think Gallinari will be a fine player but I think Hill is awful
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10/10/2009  3:45 PM
Posted by King1:

SO the same thing should happen with Hill he was a high lottery pick also. I would put our three lottery pick frye, gallnari, and Hill is the three worst pics by a team in the lottery three years in a row. I think Gallinari will be a fine player but I think Hill is awful

be that as it may with your individual thoughts on Gallo and Hill, Hill really hasn't played in the NBA and it's perhaps too soon on Gallo. Frye was picked like 8 years ago.
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10/10/2009  3:51 PM
Posted by King1:

SO the same thing should happen with Hill he was a high lottery pick also. I would put our three lottery pick frye, gallnari, and Hill is the three worst pics by a team in the lottery three years in a row. I think Gallinari will be a fine player but I think Hill is awful

i honestly feel if ny lets gallo play his game he will look good this season. but if they baby him (knicks have a habit of babying players) he will regress.
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10/10/2009  4:27 PM
How many lottery teams sit the lottery pick and bury him on the bench? I think you play the young guys and see what happens.
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10/10/2009  5:38 PM
Posted by King1:

How many lottery teams sit the lottery pick and bury him on the bench? I think you play the young guys and see what happens.

just bad luck. Knicks have players at the 4/5. Who sits for Hill? Lee? Harrington? JJ? Darko?

Call it a luxury and good luck that Hill has some time to develop. Even Deron Williams came off the bench for a while.
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10/10/2009  5:49 PM
No--this guy isnt ready to lead a team. He needs how to diversify his game and get his legs under him. Playing with the second unit pits him against lesser talent and takes pressure off of him. He hasnt really played enough NBA basketball and it shows. He looked better when he was hurt last year because expectation is down and he can come off the bench without pressure. Guys like Pierce will kill him until he can consistently diversify and physically gets ready to play 35 minutes. hes not there--he has to prove he is a starter
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10/10/2009  5:50 PM
Deron Williams played on a winning team. Hill will get maybe 8 minutes a game this year. I just think our drafts are killing us.
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10/10/2009  5:51 PM
Posted by King1:

Deron Williams played on a winning team. Hill will get maybe 8 minutes a game this year. I just think our drafts are killing us.

The drafting is dubious
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10/10/2009  6:03 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

No--this guy isnt ready to lead a team. He needs how to diversify his game and get his legs under him. Playing with the second unit pits him against lesser talent and takes pressure off of him. He hasnt really played enough NBA basketball and it shows. He looked better when he was hurt last year because expectation is down and he can come off the bench without pressure. Guys like Pierce will kill him until he can consistently diversify and physically gets ready to play 35 minutes. hes not there--he has to prove he is a starter

its not like there is this great starter ahead of him that is beating gallo out of a starting job. he comes from euro basketball and its a faster paced game. this hurry up and slow shit i dont think he will get used to. give him a chance to use his legs, i dont see d'toni doing that yet. frankly i dont know what the fuck d'toni is doing. its almost like lazy coaching.

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10/10/2009  8:31 PM
the only player i'd take over Gallanari at that pick right now is Brook Lopez. So that's not bad IMO.

I think the Jordan Hill pick was weird though.. There is a reason he dropped to 8
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10/10/2009  8:52 PM
Posted by Elite:

the only player i'd take over Gallanari at that pick right now is Brook Lopez. So that's not bad IMO.

I think the Jordan Hill pick was weird though.. There is a reason he dropped to 8

I wouldn't even take Brook Lopez right now, man. Gallo is a stud, no doubt about it!!!!

Jordan Hill, on the other hand, belongs not within 50 miles of a lottery pick.
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10/10/2009  10:13 PM
Gallo needs to play period! Starting especially on this current squad isn't the most important thing. Can we just see how the kids develop over time? Gallo from what I've seen is still in the early stages of his rehab in terms of his physical development. He's simply gonna need time to get stronger and he needs to play to adjust to the real game speed and aggression at this level. Once he does he's gonna be very good for us.
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10/10/2009  10:35 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by King1:

Deron Williams played on a winning team. Hill will get maybe 8 minutes a game this year. I just think our drafts are killing us.

The drafting is dubious

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10/10/2009  10:41 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by King1:

Deron Williams played on a winning team. Hill will get maybe 8 minutes a game this year. I just think our drafts are killing us.

The drafting is dubious

Bring back Isiah!

Let's have Isiah come back an DESTROY EVERYTHING!
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10/10/2009  10:51 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by King1:

Deron Williams played on a winning team. Hill will get maybe 8 minutes a game this year. I just think our drafts are killing us.

The drafting is dubious

Bring back Isiah!

Let's have Isiah come back an DESTROY EVERYTHING!

Isiah is the master of destruction. He can destroy what Walsh has done and then we can hire a new man to rebuild it again. What's Ed Tapscott doing these days?
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10/10/2009  10:52 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by orangeblobman:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by King1:

Deron Williams played on a winning team. Hill will get maybe 8 minutes a game this year. I just think our drafts are killing us.

The drafting is dubious

Bring back Isiah!

Let's have Isiah come back an DESTROY EVERYTHING!

Isiah is the master of destruction. He can destroy what Walsh has done and then we can hire a new man to rebuild it again. What's Ed Tapscott doing these days?

I want Isiah, I want Micheal JOrdan, and I want Obama to be the General Managers by Committee of the New YOrk Knicks!! Then maybe they can get the Nobel Prize for Physics.
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10/13/2009  10:43 AM
No need to force feed or pull back on Gallo. If he earns a spot in the rotation he should play. If he earns a spot in the starting line-up he should be a starter. Good players with strong mental make up do not need to be babied or handed things. They should be given what they deserve. Right now, I don't see what he has done to earn a starting role(but I admit I'm basing that on just these preseason games). I do however think that D'Antoni has been pretty consistent at giving minutes to guys that have earned them.
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10/13/2009  10:56 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

No need to force feed or pull back on Gallo. If he earns a spot in the rotation he should play. If he earns a spot in the starting line-up he should be a starter. Good players with strong mental make up do not need to be babied or handed things. They should be given what they deserve. Right now, I don't see what he has done to earn a starting role(but I admit I'm basing that on just these preseason games). I do however think that D'Antoni has been pretty consistent at giving minutes to guys that have earned them.

so what you are really saying is that good posters never ask for their postcount to be corrected, they just wait for it to happen?
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10/13/2009  11:15 AM
Gallo will get more chances than other players because of what he can do, even if he hasnt yet. He can shoot, and it shows in the box score. Two of the guys with the highest +/- stats were Gallo and Tim Thomas last year because the offense is better with them stretching the floor
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