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rvwink
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10/9/2009  8:27 PM
The competition is down to a 3 man battle for the last spot on the Knicks.

6'11 Forward/Center Chris Hunter, who had been having some success in the D league, He was averaging 19.3 points, 9.5 rebounds and 1.2 blocks in 32.8 minutes for the Fort Wayne Mad Ants.

6'5" shooting guard, Joe Crawford, 28th pick in the second round by the Lakers. "He played with the Los Angeles D-Fenders' this season, averaging 20.8 points, 4.6 boards and 2.7 assists in 43 games (42 starts). He hasn't been the most consistent player in the D-League, and March has actually seen a drop on his stats, but shooting 40% from the 3-point line this month has surely made up for that. Crawford is a pure scorer. He's not going to pick up many assists and can't be counted on to consistently put the ball on the floor. He's a scorer - he can shoot, he can slash, he can score. The other asset to his game is that he's one of those players that will irritate the other team on defense, playing them hard up and down all 94 feet."

6'7", 230 pound Marcus Landry was undrafted this year. He actually paid his own way to NY to begin the competition to make the team. In his 4 years in college, he played mostly Center and Power Forward. For the Knicks, he remarkably has the skill set to dribble well, and shoot from the outside. He said he willingly played out of position in college for the good of team. His favorite player is actually small forward, Paul Pierce. I think Marcus Landry is the one the Knicks keep. He may have the ability to become Mike D's Raja Bell type player responsible for cooling off whoever is hot on the opposing team.

Anyone else have a guess?

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10/9/2009  8:31 PM
lol...better question would be, who cares? we have lottery pick scrubs on our team, it's enough trouble minding them (hill), i think santa clause, the devil, and jesus could fill out these last 3 and it would be inconsequential, that is, unless jesus or santa has a mean 3 point shot.
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10/9/2009  8:43 PM
who cares? i mean the guys they picked in the first round sck so why would anyone believe the knicks could find a good walk on?

boy the love affair with jordan hill came to an abrupt end david lee 4 fouls--jordan hill cant even get on the floor. td 2 guard who cant shoot or play above the rim



Gallinari best shooter in the Samoan leagues
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10/9/2009  9:55 PM
Briggs, you sound like a scorned woman. If you can't make one decent post, then I don't know what to tell you.

[Edited by - GKFv2 on 10-09-2009 9:55 PM]
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10/9/2009  10:01 PM
Our draft was horrible if a top ten draft cant get off the bench on a bad team why draft him? Trade down and try and get someone in the later round. This draft will be as bad as the drug draft back in the 80's
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10/9/2009  10:02 PM
We should have gotten a superstar like David Lee.
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10/9/2009  10:14 PM
Did I mention Lee he has put up better number than the last two drafts will and I like Gallinari. Hill has zero feel for the game and we needed someone that could help this team. We arent the spurs or lakers and let a player takes his time to be good. This team needws help now and Hill will never see the floor this year.
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10/9/2009  10:16 PM
Posted by King1:

Did I mention Lee he has put up better number than the last two drafts will and I like Gallinari. Hill has zero feel for the game and we needed someone that could help this team. We arent the spurs or lakers and let a player takes his time to be good. This team needws help now and Hill will never see the floor this year.

Nobody in this draft besides the guys in the top 5 (Ok, not Thabeet) would help this team (now, at least). This draft sucked.
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10/9/2009  10:20 PM
WHY? Why do we need help now? We're headed towards 2 straight years of cap reduction and a load of FA options each year as well. We can in one offseason completely change the fortunes of this franchise, so why all the nancy girl whining and complaining about the current status of the team? We're in a GREAT situation in terms of our future. We've got an entire season to see how our draft picks develop, so lets kill this idea that 2 preseason games spells doom for these players entire careers.
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10/9/2009  10:20 PM
We finally agree on something. Then why dont you trade down or trade for a player? We drafted a prospect and then paid 3 million for an extra first rounder in a terrible draft. Walsh has had some horrible decisions over the years in the draft. My all time favorite is George McCloud
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10/9/2009  10:20 PM
Posted by rvwink:

The competition is down to a 3 man battle for the last spot on the Knicks.

6'11 Forward/Center Chris Hunter, who had been having some success in the D league, He was averaging 19.3 points, 9.5 rebounds and 1.2 blocks in 32.8 minutes for the Fort Wayne Mad Ants.

6'5" shooting guard, Joe Crawford, 28th pick in the second round by the Lakers. "He played with the Los Angeles D-Fenders' this season, averaging 20.8 points, 4.6 boards and 2.7 assists in 43 games (42 starts). He hasn't been the most consistent player in the D-League, and March has actually seen a drop on his stats, but shooting 40% from the 3-point line this month has surely made up for that. Crawford is a pure scorer. He's not going to pick up many assists and can't be counted on to consistently put the ball on the floor. He's a scorer - he can shoot, he can slash, he can score. The other asset to his game is that he's one of those players that will irritate the other team on defense, playing them hard up and down all 94 feet."

6'7", 230 pound Marcus Landry was undrafted this year. He actually paid his own way to NY to begin the competition to make the team. In his 4 years in college, he played mostly Center and Power Forward. For the Knicks, he remarkably has the skill set to dribble well, and shoot from the outside. He said he willingly played out of position in college for the good of team. His favorite player is actually small forward, Paul Pierce. I think Marcus Landry is the one the Knicks keep. He may have the ability to become Mike D's Raja Bell type player responsible for cooling off whoever is hot on the opposing team.

Anyone else have a guess?

marcus landry got high praise from breen tonite.
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10/10/2009  6:52 AM
Thanks coolbeans. It seems to me that the role he fulfills is really important for the Knicks. Someone capable of guarding Kobe or Lebron tough really matters. Also he hasn't had a chance to develop the offensive side of his outside game, and who knows what can develop on that side? A defensive stopper seems an important add to me.

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10/10/2009  9:45 AM
Posted by King1:

We finally agree on something. Then why dont you trade down or trade for a player? We drafted a prospect and then paid 3 million for an extra first rounder in a terrible draft. Walsh has had some horrible decisions over the years in the draft. My all time favorite is George McCloud

I want you to give me a list of draft picks made by every GM in the league for the past 20 years and you tell me how many panned out and how many didn't. The late round picks are always a crap shoot so it's a testament to Walsh that he had to pick in the late round since his teams always went deep into the playoffs and did not require him to select in the lottery.

Who the fugg cares about $3 million? Does it affect the cap? Are you paying? Were you crying when Isiah was trading $3 million? Please be quiet already.

I don't know why I ever respond to you. You never post anything that makes any sense. Just go back your shrine of David Lee and let us discuss the Knicks.
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10/10/2009  9:57 AM
You said it was a horrible draft and walsh went and bought a pick in the worst draft in 20 years. Walsh had a lot of lottery picks not pan out at Indiana in his years of drafting. I think Gallnari will be a good player but with the 8th pick getting a guy who cant get off the bench on a bad team isnt good.
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10/10/2009  10:03 AM
Posted by King1:

You said it was a horrible draft and walsh went and bought a pick in the worst draft in 20 years. Walsh had a lot of lottery picks not pan out at Indiana in his years of drafting. I think Gallnari will be a good player but with the 8th pick getting a guy who cant get off the bench on a bad team isnt good.

Who cares if he bought a pick in a bad draft? What's it to you? The guy is making like 900K, not $10 million. I still don't understand why you are complaining about a free draft pick. Because it is free. Nobody cares about cash. The Knicks don't need cash.

Back up your statement. Show me his list of lottery picks that didn't pan out.

[Edited by - GKFv2 on 10-10-2009 10:04 AM]
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10/10/2009  10:20 AM
I have to disagree on Gallo. I don't think he will be anywhere close to the 6th best player in the 08 draft and that was a hard draft to mess up. I hope he has success but it is very frustrating to see how well the traditional picks taken after Gallo are developing, contributing, fitting and starting. I still look at NJ's draft from 08 with Lopez, Anderson and CDR. Anderson had 12 and 6 last night off the bench CDR has scored over 20 in each pre season game and may start over Lee, Lopez is a franchise center. I think the Knicks took a safe pick in a weak draft with Hill. I think he will be a solid 4/5 with upside to be alot more. In my opinion the draft pick to criticize is the guy people reported was holding his back when he walked off the court last night.
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10/10/2009  10:24 AM
Since you asked nicely I will do 1990-2000 and get the rest after breakfast.
1991 Dale Davis 13th pick great pick
1992 Malik Sealy 14th pick RIP bad paick
1993 Scott Haskin 14th pick bad pick never played
1994 Eric Piatkowski 15th pick bad pick
1995 Travis Best 23rd pick nice pick
1996 Erick Dampier 13th pic Kobe, Peja, J oneal, and Nash picked right after him.
1997 Austin Croshere 12th pick bad pick
1998 Al Harrington 25th pick good pick
1999 Vonteggo Cummings 26th pick who cares
2000 Primor Brezec 27th pick who cares.
9 drafts and he got three decent players, no all stars, and missed out on Kobe Bryant. 90's were great drafts for Walsh if you were a 6-8 no playing white guy.
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10/10/2009  10:55 AM
Posted by King1:

Since you asked nicely I will do 1990-2000 and get the rest after breakfast.
1991 Dale Davis 13th pick great pick
1992 Malik Sealy 14th pick RIP bad paick
1993 Scott Haskin 14th pick bad pick never played
1994 Eric Piatkowski 15th pick bad pick
1995 Travis Best 23rd pick nice pick
1996 Erick Dampier 13th pic Kobe, Peja, J oneal, and Nash picked right after him.
1997 Austin Croshere 12th pick bad pick
1998 Al Harrington 25th pick good pick
1999 Vonteggo Cummings 26th pick who cares
2000 Primor Brezec 27th pick who cares.
9 drafts and he got three decent players, no all stars, and missed out on Kobe Bryant. 90's were great drafts for Walsh if you were a 6-8 no playing white guy.

You have a hard time with reading comprehension. I said late round round picks are a crapshoot. Match those up with any other GM's late round picks and it's all the same. You contended that he picked terrible LOTTERY picks. I told you to list them and you gave me mid-round and late round picks. Nice job.

Now I'm going to bring you up to speed because you clearly do 0 research. I would guess that's why you love Lee. You just look at the box score.

Malik Sealy in 1992 isn't a bad pick considering it ends up being a role players draft, with guys like Anthony Peeler and Robert Horry drafted ahead of him and Jon Barry and Doug Christie drafted after him. Shaq and Morning headline that draft class. Laettener and Gugliotta go in the top 6 and the only notable late selection is Sprewell at 26.

Haskins is his is worst pick of all. A clear failure there.

Piatkowski was drafted by the Indiana Pacers with the 15th pick of the 1994 NBA Draft. The Pacers immediately dealt his draft rights, along with Jerome Richardson and Malik Sealy, to the Los Angeles Clippers for Mark Jackson and the draft rights to Greg Minor.

Kobe Bryant didn't want to pay for anyone but LA so exclude him from the conversation. If you're going to mention Walsh passing on those guys, you might as well insult other great GM's of that time for passing on the same players. Hindsight is 20/20. Dampier at 10 isn't terrible but the players picked after him make it a bad selection. And to his credit, he later trades for Jermaine O'Neal.

Austin Croshere is drafted at 12. The most notable player(s) in the draft selected after him? Bobby Jackson and Derek Anderson.

Walsh drafted Vonteego Cummings, then immediately traded his draft rights and a future first-round draft pick for the draft rights to center Jeff Foster.

Walsh didn't select all stars because his teams already had a franchise guy and a solid to very good foundation around him. He didn't need to make lottery picks because he wasn't in the lottery. Walsh did well with the picks he was given. Some are mediocre, some bad and some very good. Any GM with those kind of picks in those drafts stacks up in similar fashion. Don't skew the facts.

Please, try again my man.

[Edited by - GKFv2 on 10-10-2009 10:57 AM]
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10/10/2009  11:36 AM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by King1:

Since you asked nicely I will do 1990-2000 and get the rest after breakfast.
1991 Dale Davis 13th pick great pick
1992 Malik Sealy 14th pick RIP bad paick
1993 Scott Haskin 14th pick bad pick never played
1994 Eric Piatkowski 15th pick bad pick
1995 Travis Best 23rd pick nice pick
1996 Erick Dampier 13th pic Kobe, Peja, J oneal, and Nash picked right after him.
1997 Austin Croshere 12th pick bad pick
1998 Al Harrington 25th pick good pick
1999 Vonteggo Cummings 26th pick who cares
2000 Primor Brezec 27th pick who cares.
9 drafts and he got three decent players, no all stars, and missed out on Kobe Bryant. 90's were great drafts for Walsh if you were a 6-8 no playing white guy.

You have a hard time with reading comprehension. I said late round round picks are a crapshoot. Match those up with any other GM's late round picks and it's all the same. You contended that he picked terrible LOTTERY picks. I told you to list them and you gave me mid-round and late round picks. Nice job.

Now I'm going to bring you up to speed because you clearly do 0 research. I would guess that's why you love Lee. You just look at the box score.

Malik Sealy in 1992 isn't a bad pick considering it ends up being a role players draft, with guys like Anthony Peeler and Robert Horry drafted ahead of him and Jon Barry and Doug Christie drafted after him. Shaq and Morning headline that draft class. Laettener and Gugliotta go in the top 6 and the only notable late selection is Sprewell at 26.

Haskins is his is worst pick of all. A clear failure there.

Piatkowski was drafted by the Indiana Pacers with the 15th pick of the 1994 NBA Draft. The Pacers immediately dealt his draft rights, along with Jerome Richardson and Malik Sealy, to the Los Angeles Clippers for Mark Jackson and the draft rights to Greg Minor.

Kobe Bryant didn't want to pay for anyone but LA so exclude him from the conversation. If you're going to mention Walsh passing on those guys, you might as well insult other great GM's of that time for passing on the same players. Hindsight is 20/20. Dampier at 10 isn't terrible but the players picked after him make it a bad selection. And to his credit, he later trades for Jermaine O'Neal.

Austin Croshere is drafted at 12. The most notable player(s) in the draft selected after him? Bobby Jackson and Derek Anderson.

Walsh drafted Vonteego Cummings, then immediately traded his draft rights and a future first-round draft pick for the draft rights to center Jeff Foster.

Walsh didn't select all stars because his teams already had a franchise guy and a solid to very good foundation around him. He didn't need to make lottery picks because he wasn't in the lottery. Walsh did well with the picks he was given. Some are mediocre, some bad and some very good. Any GM with those kind of picks in those drafts stacks up in similar fashion. Don't skew the facts.

Please, try again my man.

[Edited by - GKFv2 on 10-10-2009 10:57 AM]

King1-- this site is a little to knowledgeable to cut and paste a google search and use it as applied knowledge. I have to hand it to GKFv2, he knows his stuff.
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10/10/2009  12:56 PM
12-15 you should find good players I am not going to do the research on the 2000 pick so you can help me
2001- no pick
2002 #14 Fre Jones
2003 no pick
2004 #30 David Harrison
2005 17 Danny Granger great pick.
12-15 picks arent crapshoots you can find good players He passed on Kobe, Nash, Peja for Erick Dampier. Walsh is very good at trades but drafting it is less than be desired
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