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9/28/2009  6:01 PM
http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/notebook_walshdantoni09.html
The Knicks could play a lineup that feature five players standing 6-feet-8 or taller. And who better to D up the opposing team’s point guard than 6-10 Gallinari? That doesn’t mean Gallo would be taking the ball up the court, but matching up with a point guard would certainly help get him good looks at the basket.

“I don’t see why we can’t put five guys out there 6-8 or over. We got some guys who can do some things,” D’Antoni said. “We have some interesting things we can try.

Is this what he's talking about for an all 6'8"+ squad? Gallo isn't going to be beating the press anytime soon. MikeD did make a point to bring up Sun. Maybe this is what he means...

The Sun
The Rooster
The Mayor
The Jr Harrington
The Darko


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9/28/2009  6:08 PM
The Sun
The Rooster
The Mayor
The Jr Harrington
The Darko

I'm widit

The cool part about this avant garde shiftline is that The Mayor and The Rooster can both put the ball on the floor at least as well as Anthony Mason in his point forward cameo role

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9/28/2009  6:15 PM
Not happening. Once Chris Paul and Tony Parker blow by our 6'9" pg a few times, we will be going back to Duhon and Nate.
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9/28/2009  6:19 PM
Posted by TheGame:

Not happening. Once Chris Paul and Tony Parker blow by our 6'9" pg a few times, we will be going back to Duhon and Nate.

what are you talking about? the Sun will set on those guys.
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9/28/2009  6:25 PM
I'm pretty sure Chandler can guard the bigger point guards in the East. The trouble would be bringing up the ball against Rondo, Harris, Rose etc.

Haven't really seen Sun, so who knows if he can do that.
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9/28/2009  6:27 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'm pretty sure Chandler can guard the bigger point guards in the East. The trouble would be bringing up the ball against Rondo, Harris, Rose etc.

Haven't really seen Sun, so who knows if he can do that.
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9/28/2009  6:35 PM
Posted by TheGame:

Not happening. Once Chris Paul and Tony Parker blow by our 6'9" pg a few times, we will be going back to Duhon and Nate.

i disagree 100%. if it happens, it would likely be in particular circumstances when we are facing certain lineups.

anthony mason and grant hill played point-forward.

that's the idea he's talking about.

i dunno if this is a repeat of something reported earlier or he said it again today (i saw that this quote you are posting was on the knicks twitter page), but d'antoni said this a few days ago as well.

of course, he's probably not going to run gallo out against chris paul, but more against particular lineups that may come up in a given game against teams that don't always run a regular pg.

also, maybe gallo isn't guarding the opposing team's pg. more likely chandler.

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9/28/2009  6:43 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by TheGame:

Not happening. Once Chris Paul and Tony Parker blow by our 6'9" pg a few times, we will be going back to Duhon and Nate.

i disagree 100%. if it happens, it would likely be in particular circumstances when we are facing certain lineups.

anthony mason and grant hill played point-forward.

that's the idea he's talking about.

i dunno if this is a repeat of something reported earlier or he said it again today (i saw that this quote you are posting was on the knicks twitter page), but d'antoni said this a few days ago as well.

of course, he's probably not going to run gallo out against chris paul, but more against particular lineups that may come up in a given game against teams that don't always run a regular pg.

also, maybe gallo isn't guarding the opposing team's pg. more likely chandler.

Yeah, Chandler can guard just about anyone, but how do you get the ball up the floor so Gallo can start the offense?


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9/28/2009  6:44 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'm pretty sure Chandler can guard the bigger point guards in the East. The trouble would be bringing up the ball against Rondo, Harris, Rose etc.

Haven't really seen Sun, so who knows if he can do that.

right.

also the lakers could run, kobe, artest, odom, gasol & bynum.

the mavs still have kidd, who ain't blowin by anyone.

even nash could be defended by chandler, maybe.

philly doesn't even really have a pg other than holiday, who ain't that athletic.

etc. etc.
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9/28/2009  6:46 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by TheGame:

Not happening. Once Chris Paul and Tony Parker blow by our 6'9" pg a few times, we will be going back to Duhon and Nate.

i disagree 100%. if it happens, it would likely be in particular circumstances when we are facing certain lineups.

anthony mason and grant hill played point-forward.

that's the idea he's talking about.

i dunno if this is a repeat of something reported earlier or he said it again today (i saw that this quote you are posting was on the knicks twitter page), but d'antoni said this a few days ago as well.

of course, he's probably not going to run gallo out against chris paul, but more against particular lineups that may come up in a given game against teams that don't always run a regular pg.

also, maybe gallo isn't guarding the opposing team's pg. more likely chandler.

Yeah, Chandler can guard just about anyone, but how do you get the ball up the floor so Gallo can start the offense?

lee did it last year sometimes, i think.

maybe gallo can.

maybe have to set some screens.

either way, i don't think they'll do it much. maybe experiment with it to see if it might work during training camp.
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9/28/2009  7:25 PM
Mike D'antoni's offense starts as soon as the ball is inbounded.

Anyway, tony parker is blowing by duhon just as easy if not easier than he would against Gallo bulleedat
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9/28/2009  9:05 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'm pretty sure Chandler can guard the bigger point guards in the East. The trouble would be bringing up the ball against Rondo, Harris, Rose etc.

Haven't really seen Sun, so who knows if he can do that.

The only thing they have to do is let the player being guarded by 3 man bring the ball up.
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9/28/2009  9:42 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'm pretty sure Chandler can guard the bigger point guards in the East. The trouble would be bringing up the ball against Rondo, Harris, Rose etc.

Haven't really seen Sun, so who knows if he can do that.

The only thing they have to do is let the player being guarded by 3 man bring the ball up.

So if you're coaching a game against the Bulls, and they go full court press to match your big lineup, you're cool with having Gallo, Chandler, or Al bring it up? (who knows what Sun is)
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9/28/2009  9:56 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'm pretty sure Chandler can guard the bigger point guards in the East. The trouble would be bringing up the ball against Rondo, Harris, Rose etc.

Haven't really seen Sun, so who knows if he can do that.

The only thing they have to do is let the player being guarded by 3 man bring the ball up.

So if you're coaching a game against the Bulls, and they go full court press to match your big lineup, you're cool with having Gallo, Chandler, or Al bring it up? (who knows what Sun is)

You have 4 guys that can handle the ball with Sun, Mayor, Gallo and Harrington...yeah I am ok with that. Also, it is really hard to press the MDA system.

[Edited by - NYKBocker on 09-28-2009 9:56 PM]
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Posted by JohnWallace44:
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'm pretty sure Chandler can guard the bigger point guards in the East. The trouble would be bringing up the ball against Rondo, Harris, Rose etc.

Haven't really seen Sun, so who knows if he can do that.

The only thing they have to do is let the player being guarded by 3 man bring the ball up.

So if you're coaching a game against the Bulls, and they go full court press to match your big lineup, you're cool with having Gallo, Chandler, or Al bring it up? (who knows what Sun is)

Hey why do you think I created the Sun Yue Thread! I've got a lot of video and info there on the guy. He's actually got some skills. He's got a great handle, agility and quickness for a 6-9 guy, but more importantly he WILL block a shot for you too. The kid has a 34" vert and great timing. They say his court vision and passing are really good. At least Sun has played the point enough to understand how to protect the ball against quicker small guards. He'll get picked from time to time, but overall I think we'd get more out of it than we'd give up.

In regards to bringing the ball up, MDA doesn't really want a lot of dribbling anyway. So you want to advance the ball with good passing. How many times has a guy like Lee gotten the rebound and started a break, or Gallo or Chan? they aren't being guarded by the opposing PG, but they're own man or whoever is nearest, you take a few dribbles and pass it up court. Many possessions will go like that. Another thing to consider is that you can set a pick to rub off the pesky PG so that you can get the ball up court too.
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9/28/2009  10:03 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:

You have 4 guys that can handle the ball with Sun, Mayor, Gallo and Harrington...yeah I am ok with that. Also, it is really hard to press the MDA system.

You might be right. I'd like to see us try it. Might be crazy enough to work against teams with big PG's that have become the norm for the contending teams in the NBA.
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The point of MDA's comments about putting out a big lineup is that we will probably end up with a roster which gives us the flexibility to go big or small depending upon the match-ups we face on a particular night. I think the potential flexibility has his coach's brain working overtime.

Sounds like he is going to be doing a lot of experimenting though, and I really think he is willing to put the guys who play the best ball on the floor, no matter their experience, background, or reputation.


... Strange- did any of you guys mention Lee as one of the bigs in our big man lineup??
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... Strange- did any of you guys mention Lee as one of the bigs in our big man lineup??

you could put Jeffries, Lee, Hill or Darko in at center... doesn't matter if you're trying to put in a lineup like that.
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9/28/2009  10:34 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'm pretty sure Chandler can guard the bigger point guards in the East. The trouble would be bringing up the ball against Rondo, Harris, Rose etc.

Haven't really seen Sun, so who knows if he can do that.

Chandler has trouble guarding some small forwards.

Sun is an absolute bum of a player who will be cut mid october.

Come'on...
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9/28/2009  11:28 PM
gallo gunna get his back broke messing around with tony parker.
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