Well we did just make 2 first round draft picks. Not sure why that doesn't excite people.

Posted by franco12:

wait until next off season when Lebron, Wade and Bosh all use the Knicks to get max deals from their respective teams.

And then we sign a bunch of second tier talent and proceed to win 39 games for the next five years.

I think you need to relax with that. I understand you are not a cap space fan but the fact of the matter is if a team has at last some respectability, they will sign good-great players. The sad thing is we don't even have 2nd tier talent on this team so even if that was the case it would be an upgrade over anything we have.

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Exciting offseasons yielded Jerome James, Eddy Curry, Jared Jeffries, Zach Randolph, Jamal Crawford

So because one guy was a moron, another one can't make a move to improve the team? I'mnot asking for flash. I'm asking to make this team much better for the upcoming season. Right now, they are the same exact 32 win team.

Last year there was a buzz around Gallinari, yet there is no buzz around Hill or Douglas. Could that be because the buzz around Gallinari was negative and we prefer the bad stuff?

Posted by Bippity10:

Last year there was a buzz around Gallinari, yet there is no buzz around Hill or Douglas. Could that be because the buzz around Gallinari was negative and we prefer the bad stuff?

Last year was a deeper and better draft and Gallinari had higher expectations. I was always a Gallo fan so I'm not one of those people you are referring to.

Don't confuse change with improvement or the overratedness of a good starphuck.

Kidd or Hill would be a solid chemistry maker.

I like the lack of splash moves. This small stuff adds up.

We have assets to do things. Let the rookie young GM's starphuch themselves. WE are shedding contracts and taking assets.

The old man will have his day.

Better to do nothing than do somthing stupid.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by Bippity10:

Last year there was a buzz around Gallinari, yet there is no buzz around Hill or Douglas. Could that be because the buzz around Gallinari was negative and we prefer the bad stuff?

Last year was a deeper and better draft and Gallinari had higher expectations. I was always a Gallo fan so I'm not one of those people you are referring to.

Maybe. I don't remember too many people having high expectations of the guy. Maybe some of the cats that saw him in Europe but the majority of New Yorkers hated the pick and still do. Yet the buzz on this site was there for weeks before summer league. Yet with Hill and Douglas there is very little. We rather moan about the loss of Kidd and Hill, two vets that I wanted, but would not have made much difference here in terms of record.

I don't care about those guys, really. I care about how the franchise is perceived. We are being passed over by old ass players while offering more money. This means that our team cannot lure anyone here simply with money and "this is NYC". They're going to have to improve significantly on the court. Oh and Lebron or anyone wont come here unless we have enough cap space for 2 max deals. Nobody is coming here to play with Wilson Chandler.

what moves were expected? Hughes and Harrington are high priced expiring deals; trading either would result in similar deals and talent. Nate and Lee are RFA and can't be moved easily. Gallo, Chandler, Hill, Douglas are here to stay. Darko was just traded for. Jefferies may go with Nate. Curry ain't going nowhere. That leaves Duhon and Mobley.

What are you expecting?

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by Bippity10:

Last year there was a buzz around Gallinari, yet there is no buzz around Hill or Douglas. Could that be because the buzz around Gallinari was negative and we prefer the bad stuff?

Last year was a deeper and better draft and Gallinari had higher expectations. I was always a Gallo fan so I'm not one of those people you are referring to.

Maybe. I don't remember too many people having high expectations of the guy. Maybe some of the cats that saw him in Europe but the majority of New Yorkers hated the pick and still do. Yet the buzz on this site was there for weeks before summer league. Yet with Hill and Douglas there is very little. We rather moan about the loss of Kidd and Hill, two vets that I wanted, but would not have made much difference here in terms of record.

I don't care about those guys, really. I care about how the franchise is perceived. We are being passed over by old ass players while offering more money. This means that our team cannot lure anyone here simply with money and "this is NYC". They're going to have to improve significantly on the court. Oh and Lebron or anyone wont come here unless we have enough cap space for 2 max deals. Nobody is coming here to play with Wilson Chandler.

Kidd actually got more money from dallas than we were offering. and I think Hill got the same amount. I'm not sure about the contract details, I think NY offered him a 1 year contract with an option for a 2nd, whereas PHO simply gave him a 2 year contract. I don't think NY looks too bad for not getting Kidd, or Hill. The way I figure it we're just finding out that it's going to be difficult to get quality veterans to come here for frugal contracts when they could just as easily go to a playoff or championship caliber team. Which makes sense I guess.

Right now I think I'd actually rather offer contracts frugal deals that have a higher chance of being turned down as opposed to going the Jared Jeffries route where we offer a large sum of money which basically guarantees we land the player, only to wind up with a drastically overpaid role player as a result.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 07-10-2009 7:18 PM]