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Nalod
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7/9/2009  2:24 PM

Ok, ok, I'll say it, I'll say it!!!!!

David Lee is white!!!!!

Thats it. Some call it racial bias, others "marketability"!!!! This may be true, but can't we have our guy also? Is that really really bad?

Even if its not his hustle, not the Double Double machine, not his outlet passing skills, not his durability but is white and better looking than most Duke players!!!! He won the McDonalds high school dunk contest! And he was only 6-5 then. That makes him "cool" right??

He dates better than "average white women" and my guess is he downs top shelf vodka just like P-Diddy!

Remember, we got quotas too! Eastern Euro's don't count! Darko is not a "white guy". He wants to fornicate in anger with our mother in languages we can't understand. Im not saying he is black in any way, just stating we are not taking him! We are not crazy either about Radmon, Vlade, Lampe, Pasha, Sasha, etc, all are not real white guys. Dirk isn't either, but Nash is. Australians are. Black English players are also. We even take the gay english players!

Tony Parker, Pietris, and other "Black" french guys are cool to us and we consider them white.

Funny enough, we crackers do accept the Chinese and Japanese players as our own. Don't know why, maybe the hair and lack of traditional jumping acumen. The Spainards are kind of cool to us white guys. The Gasol boys, Rudy, and Sergio are all cool to us. So are the Argentines! We can sneak them under the radar. Very sneaky..Very sneaky.... We figure most Brazilians are cool so you'll keep them. Cool name guys like "Splitter", "Nene" and "Barbosa" counter balance the Argentines. We figure we'll deal with "Walter Hermann" and the whole end of world war II german immegration to Argentina ourselves.

The Italians are up for grabs. We are keeping an eye on them. But so are the black guys.

I know we kind of took Tim Duncan but things were different back then. He was young and not much of a leaper. He was considered soft. We did take Olwakandi and he was a bust! Kind of worked itself out. We'll give you Delonte and Battier but we keep Farmar (half jewish!) Jason Kidd is not liked by anyone so he stays a free agent.

The problem is what to do with Blake Griffin. First you got the "Blake" thing. Thats us. The red hair and Freckles are us, but there is that build and athleticness y'all talk about. Wing span is not big, so thats us again. Im split. ITs not fair if we take him and not his brother, whom nobody wants. Its getting complicated. Ok, how about we keep Blake and take his brother and give you Stephan Curry since its pretty obvious where he gets his talent from. Same goes for his brother when he goes in the draft. He has a sit a year cuz he played at Liberty (jerry Falwell University!!) but is transferring and sitting a year. If he stayed y'all would not have even wanted him! He might be better than Stephan. Sounds about fair.

So what are we do about the DLee thing? Can we overlook the color of his skin and just love him for being a knick? Played for 3 coaches in 4 years! Best buzzer beater pass-tip in I ever saw!!!!
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Pharzeone
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7/9/2009  2:31 PM
David Lee is one of my favorite white guys even though he doesn't play defense.
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7/9/2009  2:34 PM
Nalod - that was as convoluted an explanation of perception and prejudice as I have ever seen. Ever. Whatever your point was it was lost in the mangled wreckage of a stereotypical crash of epic proportions.

Allanfan said it best.

"Note to David Lee: Start playing defense."

It ain't that deep.

[Edited by - misterearl on 07-09-2009 2:36 PM]
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Cosmic
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7/9/2009  2:35 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

David Lee is one of my favorite white guys even though he doesn't play defense.

Same here.

Yet, the lack of defense and sometimes lazy offensive play (largely unforced turnovers), the apparent desire to get stuffed on every guarded layup attempt, and what appears to be an already slowing down in his speed and athleticism - worry me when considering locking him up to decent to big money virtually guaranteeing he would be our starting forward through 2015.

I just don't know if that's the right thing to do.
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7/9/2009  2:36 PM
awesome stuff nalod....what u smokin son?
Nalod
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7/9/2009  2:41 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Nalod - that was as convoluted an explanation of perception and prejudice as I have ever seen. Ever. Whatever your point was it was lost in the mangled wreckage of a stereotypical crash of epic proportions.

David Lee needs to play defense.

It ain't that deep.

It was a convoluted sarcastic rant you grumpy old fool!!!!!!

It would be stereotypical for a small handful to not even notice what I was doing!!!!!

There is much harmeless undertones of racism (especially by the black guys)every day but its no big deal and maybe some of it is just plain the way it is. Black guys are always compared to other black guys and whites to other whites! Its not done on purpose, its just the way things are! Its funny, and IM making fun of it!!!!!!

WE draw the lines and usually don't cross it, but we skirt it all the time. Its funny as hell!
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7/9/2009  2:44 PM
Obviously some fans are going to like David Lee b/c he's a minority in a mainly black league, just as a lot of fans probably like some of the few black players in the NHL, ect..

I think Nalod went a little too deep though. Misterearl quoted me the best. As soon as he plays defense, he can be black, white, hispanic, Asian or purple. Everybody will like him.
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Nalod
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7/9/2009  2:45 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by Pharzeone:

David Lee is one of my favorite white guys even though he doesn't play defense.

Same here.

Yet, the lack of defense and sometimes lazy offensive play (largely unforced turnovers), the apparent desire to get stuffed on every guarded layup attempt, and what appears to be an already slowing down in his speed and athleticism - worry me when considering locking him up to decent to big money virtually guaranteeing he would be our starting forward through 2015.

I just don't know if that's the right thing to do.


The way I see it is coach says......"David, stay on the floor and don't get in foul trouble!
He is not perfect, and should get to the line more.

I don't think we should go much more than 7 mil for him.

Many of us like the kid and would like to see him at the 4, not the 5!

He is better than JJ2!
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7/9/2009  2:47 PM
U cant have Blake Griffin. Looks like a Saltine, but his game is pure brotha...ya'll white folks dont play ball like that. stop playin'

We definitely gave you Tim Duncan...we knew his boring ass was a lost cause. That was OUR decision.

You guys hate the French, "freedom fries!!" So there goes Parker, Pietris...ext.

Darko is definitely YOUR guy. Remember the Euro craze a few years ago was fueled by the: " well at least they have pale faces and at least they arent inner city, ghetto trash." The league was in a frenzy! Dont distance yourself now that most of them turned out to be Darkos and Skitas rather than Dirks. LOL, ya'll are the reason why Dumars wont get more than one chip. Ya'll hoodwinked his dumb ass.

Funny post, btw.
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Allanfan20
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7/9/2009  2:47 PM
WE draw the lines and usually don't cross it, but we skirt it all the time. Its funny as hell!

I can think of a couple names here, who I wont reveal, who definitely don't think as much and will be having a field day with this thread.
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7/9/2009  2:48 PM
...and pretty much everybody around here hates every Knick player. Lee's wrong color isnt white, but orange and blue
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Allanfan20
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7/9/2009  2:51 PM
Posted by sebstar:

...and pretty much everybody around here hates every Knick player. Lee's wrong color isnt white, but orange and blue

It's not that we hate every player. It's just a crappy team and on a crappy team, everybody is tradeable. This includes Lee.

Personally, I like Lee a lot, but if we get something back for him, then I'm all for letting him go.
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7/9/2009  2:54 PM
Kinda like Manny being Manny....may I present to you Nalod being Nalod.
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NYKBocker
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7/9/2009  2:54 PM
Wait...Asians are considered white? I think those crackers chasing me and my black BFF in White Plains some 25 years back did not get the memo.
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7/9/2009  2:55 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Wait...Asians are considered white? I think those crackers chasing me and my black BFF in White Plains some 25 years back did not get the memo.

Most desperately want to consider themselves that. Get TMS in here, ASAP and lets get the 411!
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7/9/2009  2:57 PM
Nalod - stick to talking basketball. Being funny about matters of race requires much more nuance and more greater sophistication than using words like "we crackers".

This is 2009 dude.
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Nalod
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7/9/2009  2:58 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
WE draw the lines and usually don't cross it, but we skirt it all the time. Its funny as hell!

I can think of a couple names here, who I wont reveal, who definitely don't think as much and will be having a field day with this thread.

Flame by proxy.

"Who I won't reveal"? Thats crap.

I did!!!!!!

Sebby said a few days ago about Duhan: "Hangs out with average white women and drinks cheap vodka"!

Now theres a lot of ways to look at that statement but I thought it was just funny as hell given the tone of what he was saying. It could have been racist, but he was playing around so it was not.

Now exactly what Did I say that was really offending?

So whats up? The white guys have to be really extra careful to not stab at on the surface humor but the black guys can? For garsh darns sake they made a movie "white men can't jump"! They could have called it "black guys jump higher". But thats not funny.

Flame by proxy! Good work.
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7/9/2009  2:59 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by NYKBocker:

Wait...Asians are considered white? I think those crackers chasing me and my black BFF in White Plains some 25 years back did not get the memo.

Most desperately want to consider themselves that. Get TMS in here, ASAP and lets get the 411!

dude is still hungover from his Allanfan
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Nalod
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7/9/2009  3:00 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Nalod - stick to talking basketball. Being funny about matters of race requires much more nuance and more greater sophistication than using words like "we crackers".

This is 2009 dude.


WE always go beyond basketball around here.

no, im not chris rock.......But I understand!

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7/9/2009  3:01 PM
Posted by joec32033:

Kinda like Manny being Manny....may I present to you Nalod being Nalod.

Thank you!

The real truth about David Lee.......

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