Posted by OasisBU:

Posted by Vmart:

Walsh hasn't made one move for a player that he really wants and we have everything breaking the KNicks way. I highly doubt Walsh pulls off any miracle trade to bring in a superstar. None of the deal that are mentioned will happen. Every trade that the Knicks have done so far are moves that geared towards 2010, in some of the trades the Knicks took back less just to try and get cap flexibility. Only one move is a move that Walsh and D'Antoni really wanted happened that is to get Douglass.

Walsh and D'Antoni haven't given me any reason to think that they can get Rubio, so I doubt they come out of it with LeBron or Bosh highly doubtful. We all just saw what a 6 million in difference in contract will do in the Kidd case. You guys will see what Cavs can do by offering more money than the Knicks, that is why I think LeBron is a pipe dream.

I was just talking about this in another thread and I totally agree, if the Knicks cant match or exceed the contract money another organization is offering, then we will not get the player. I don't care what anyone says about endorsements etc. making up the difference - are those guaranteed $$$? Even if they were, I have yet to see it happen when someone signs in NY for less money and then gets paid the difference in endorsements - like you said, it is a pipe dream if we cannot offer the same $$$ or more.

Posted by babyKnicks:

Posted by dcknickfan | July 5, 2009 23:31

I remain hopeful that in 09 Rubio will get traded to the knicks, Nash will be released for his buy out and sign for the MLE,Nate and JJ go to Sacto for Sergio and Kenny, Curry and Mobley goes to Houston for Mc Grady, Lee will be resigned for 5/ $40 with an opt out in 3 years, and Lebron and Bosh will come in 2010 as FA's.

That is a great scenerio....

All those moves are very possible. Donnie has proven that he thinks like the average forum guy so I'm sure all those moves are written down in his little war room cheat sheet.

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by babyKnicks:

Posted by dcknickfan | July 5, 2009 23:31

I remain hopeful that in 09 Rubio will get traded to the knicks, Nash will be released for his buy out and sign for the MLE,Nate and JJ go to Sacto for Sergio and Kenny, Curry and Mobley goes to Houston for Mc Grady, Lee will be resigned for 5/ $40 with an opt out in 3 years, and Lebron and Bosh will come in 2010 as FA's.

Donnie has proven that he thinks like the average forum guy

is this suppose to be encouraging?

Posted by McK1:

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by babyKnicks:

Posted by dcknickfan | July 5, 2009 23:31

I remain hopeful that in 09 Rubio will get traded to the knicks, Nash will be released for his buy out and sign for the MLE,Nate and JJ go to Sacto for Sergio and Kenny, Curry and Mobley goes to Houston for Mc Grady, Lee will be resigned for 5/ $40 with an opt out in 3 years, and Lebron and Bosh will come in 2010 as FA's.

Donnie has proven that he thinks like the average forum guy

is this suppose to be encouraging?

yeah.....gotta give us a little more credit...we debate alot of trades and we mentioned all the deals Donnie made last season on these forums...so I suspect Donnie debates it the same way since he came up with the same results.

Posted by EwingsGlass:

Interesting to note that all of the major playoff teams seem to be getting 'better' without giving much up.
Atlanta did probably the least by adding Crawford, but he is instant offense, and I think they are a better team with him.
Orlando added Vinsanity (but lose Hedo) an upgrade.
San Antonio added RJefferson...a solid addition.
Celts add Sheed (getting Garnett back and getting rid of Marbs might have been enough). They probably get Hill also.
Cavs add Shaq (and don't look like they are done yet)
Lakers add Artest (but look like they lose Odom and Ariza).

I look at the Knicks and all the dream scenarios and I think that it all starts by getting the core stars. Its easy to add additional stars to the mix once you have the core. Would have been nice to add Kidd for the MLE, but we would really need to subtract some salary elsewhere to really work the 2010 plan. I would have tried to make it work though. I mean, I wouldn't mind adding Kidd or Nash, I think it is easier if you get the two superstars first. Then sign the vet former all-stars to the MLE, LLE, sign and trade etc...

What I am saying is, this isn't our year. The star players seem to attach themselves to the superstars though.

I think we should keep an eye on Marion.

Posted by OasisBU:

Posted by EwingsGlass:

Interesting to note that all of the major playoff teams seem to be getting 'better' without giving much up.
Atlanta did probably the least by adding Crawford, but he is instant offense, and I think they are a better team with him.
Orlando added Vinsanity (but lose Hedo) an upgrade.
San Antonio added RJefferson...a solid addition.
Celts add Sheed (getting Garnett back and getting rid of Marbs might have been enough). They probably get Hill also.
Cavs add Shaq (and don't look like they are done yet)
Lakers add Artest (but look like they lose Odom and Ariza).

I look at the Knicks and all the dream scenarios and I think that it all starts by getting the core stars. Its easy to add additional stars to the mix once you have the core. Would have been nice to add Kidd for the MLE, but we would really need to subtract some salary elsewhere to really work the 2010 plan. I would have tried to make it work though. I mean, I wouldn't mind adding Kidd or Nash, I think it is easier if you get the two superstars first. Then sign the vet former all-stars to the MLE, LLE, sign and trade etc...

What I am saying is, this isn't our year. The star players seem to attach themselves to the superstars though.

I think we should keep an eye on Marion.

If the Lakers lose Odom and do not replace him then I see no way they repeat