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Caseloads
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7/5/2009  8:38 AM
"How about Allen Iverson? If you can get him for one year he would generate some buzz and upgrade the Knicks backcourt. Yes, we all know that Iverson has lost a little. Okay, he's lost a lot. But just because Detroit made a bad trade after making a bad coaching hire, doesn't mean Iverson is totally to blame for their season.

It's also worth noting that Iverson and LeBron James share the same agent."

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/knicks/2009/07/knicks-should-grab-iverson-on.html
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7/5/2009  8:40 AM
Isola is a crackhead. Why would anyone want Allen Iverson on their team? He is a headcase, he is as inefficient as they come, and is pretty much just one big chucking ballhog. This is what we want here? A chucking ballhog headcase? Why? TO prevent the growth of our young players?

No thanks....and why in the world are people starting rumors about washed up veterans joining the Knicks this summer? This isn't Layden's Knicks and this isn't the 1990s. Our team stinks and it is rebuilding. How do any of these mentioned players help us accomplish rebuilding and the grooming of our young players? Iverson? Bibby? Kidd? Rasheed? Uh....NO.
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7/5/2009  8:58 AM
True. I do wonder where ivy is going to end up though. Guy right now is getting treated colder than the other side of the pillow.
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7/5/2009  9:02 AM
I would get Iverson only after picking up James, Bosh and Nash. He needs to be the 4th mentioned player on a given squad. You cannot have thme as the 2nd or even teh 3rd best mentioned player on the team.

Ex. Look at Ron Artest, Randy Moss or even dennis Rodman, they were just an added body to an already stacked team. now it looks like Rasheed is falling into that category with either Boston or San Antnio.

You bring in Iverson to the knicks to try and generate some buzz in the team, he'll be another T.O from the cowboys and we saw what that did. FAILED PROJECT!
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7/5/2009  9:30 AM
on a 1 year deal i'd take just about any veteran who can be productive... Kidd, Iverson, Camby, Hill, Bibby, Rasheed, whoever.
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7/5/2009  9:32 AM
Please keep AI as far away as possible from our team. Besides the character issues, he's not gonna share the ball with any of our players on offense.
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7/5/2009  9:39 AM
MDA has stated he wants guys that move the ball. AI is definitively out.

And if he is getting the cold shoulder, its because teams don't want him and what he brings. His agent is clearly fishing for a big contract, but I doubt he gets one.
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7/5/2009  9:53 AM
i'd love to see iverson on teh rockets or spurs for some reason. GS? Nellie? Sactown needs somebody, anybody...
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7/5/2009  10:09 AM
NO WAY. That's one headcase we don't need. Absolutely effing no. All free agents in 2010 will be smart enough to know our one year rentals are just that so adding them to the team will do nothing to attract FAs either.
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7/5/2009  10:14 AM
Why would Isola even throw the idea out for discussion?

I am not necessarily a fan of the Knicks acquiring Kidd or Hill, but at least those guys could set an good example for the younger players on the team.

Iverson had his cance for redemption in Denver and Detroit. He failed.
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7/5/2009  10:39 AM
i don't know about iverson but any team can sign an unlimited # of vets to the minimum (which is currently 1.4 mil). if the knicks guarantee playing time, i can see alot of guys willing to come to ny and pump up their #'s hoping to land a better pay day in 2010. and in this market, there may be some quality players available for the minimum but may have to wait till sep/oct for it to happen.

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7/5/2009  11:07 AM
The goal for next season is to get the young players more experience andmaking sure that they are being brought along in the proper manner. JKidd makes to much sense as he is a pass first PG. AI is just another Marbury. Why would you want a pg in that mold if he is a pg at all. I personally would just go after Rubio and develop him behind Duhon. That is the proper thing to do for the Knicks. They need to stop and take a long look and get Rubio in NY. The knicks are looking for the playoffs next year because they don't have a pick and that is pushing their need for a pg which I think isn't the right move.

I don't think Kidd has it left in the tank anymore, the Knicks should walk away. Now if they can swing a deal for Nash that would be great but I highly doubt Kerr deals with the Knicks as he is a vengeful GM who like nothing but the worst for Walsh and D'Antoni. IMHO Walsh needs to stop fooling around and get Rubio. I'm not buying into this Kidd thing or even the Nash thing, the most serious the Knicks can get is with dealing for Rubio.
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7/5/2009  12:13 PM
Signing Iverson is a crazy idea. Denver got better after he went to Detroit and Detroit got better after he got injured.
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7/5/2009  12:18 PM
Posted by TMS:

on a 1 year deal i'd take just about any veteran who can be productive... Kidd, Iverson, Camby, Hill, Bibby, Rasheed, whoever.

I am curious as to why.

For me I'd rather watch Duhon maybe take another step forward, Nate as well if retained, and see what Douglas has to offer before I watched an aging veteran take up minutes.

Do you really feel any of those mentioned players would either significantly improve us, be mentors for our youth, or persuade James to sign here and have enough in the tank to be a part of the 2010-2015 run back to the NBA Finals?

I really feel they can't be any of those things.

Do we really covet 3 extra wins next year? At the price of minutes for our young kids and not for nothing with guys like Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby, Rasheed, Iverson - you're not talking about role models here.

The role models are Grant Hill and Steve Nash(who is still under contract). Those two maybe you get what you want in terms of a mentor for your young guys but even then I question what those guys have left in the tank.

I really consider all these vets on their last legs and only valuable to the top contenders. To rebuilding teams or teams just happy to get to the 1st round of the playoffs I don't see how they help those teams.

What do you (and others) see in these vets that leads you to believe they would be a welcome addition?

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7/5/2009  12:55 PM
Isola got you guys reading his column and talking about it.

Thats why he put it out there.
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7/5/2009  3:49 PM
Allen Iverson? I don't think I'll ever be able to take Isola seriously again... you gotta be kidding me
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7/6/2009  2:29 AM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by TMS:

on a 1 year deal i'd take just about any veteran who can be productive... Kidd, Iverson, Camby, Hill, Bibby, Rasheed, whoever.

I am curious as to why.

For me I'd rather watch Duhon maybe take another step forward, Nate as well if retained, and see what Douglas has to offer before I watched an aging veteran take up minutes.

Do you really feel any of those mentioned players would either significantly improve us, be mentors for our youth, or persuade James to sign here and have enough in the tank to be a part of the 2010-2015 run back to the NBA Finals?

I really feel they can't be any of those things.

Do we really covet 3 extra wins next year? At the price of minutes for our young kids and not for nothing with guys like Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby, Rasheed, Iverson - you're not talking about role models here.

The role models are Grant Hill and Steve Nash(who is still under contract). Those two maybe you get what you want in terms of a mentor for your young guys but even then I question what those guys have left in the tank.

I really consider all these vets on their last legs and only valuable to the top contenders. To rebuilding teams or teams just happy to get to the 1st round of the playoffs I don't see how they help those teams.

What do you (and others) see in these vets that leads you to believe they would be a welcome addition?

for me it's simple... this season is really about nothing else but to pump up the value of Curry & Fishlips so we can hopefully dump their useless behinds & in the process hopefully trying to contend for a playoff berth... to me that's clearly what Donnie's goal is... Duhon is & always has been a stopgap, he has absolutely no bearing on the future of this franchise & neither would AI or any other vet that signed here on a 1 year contract... just making this franchise legitimate again seems to be Donnie's goal, & IMHO AI can help the Knicks attain that... i know i'm in the severe minority on this board when it comes to AI, i've always liked him as a player & will contend that he's 1 of the best little men to ever play the game... even now he's a significant upgrade over Chris Duhon... to me you'd have to be absolutely crazy to think otherwise... on a 1 year deal i'll take him.
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7/6/2009  7:48 AM
on the flip side, if AI wanted to reinvent himself he could morph his game into Nash's and fulfil the role. He has all the tools.

Again, he would really really want to do this. He would have to practice.
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7/6/2009  9:32 AM
I would take a flier on Iverson for one year. Don't know if he'd be interested - but the other options are soooo slim at this point. AI is definitely the best left and he fills the big hole at SG and fills Nate's role if nothing else.
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7/6/2009  9:36 AM
zero interest in ai. doesn’t project well at either the pg or sg position in this system and has proven to be a detriment to teams since leaving philly.
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