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McK1
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6/28/2009  10:29 AM
A representative for Ricky Rubio's agency in Spain told The Post yesterday the 18-year-old flamboyant point-guard phenom is receiving offers this weekend to play for a club in Turkey and Real Madrid, which would decrease the likelihood of him playing in the NBA next season.

Meanwhile, Knicks team president Donnie Walsh spoke to Timberwolves general manager David Kahn yesterday. According to a source, Kahn's being patient and is not interested in talking trade yet and is "trying to keep him."

Tim Shea, the former Knicks European scout who is a consultant for Rubio's agency, Winners Factory, said he expects a formal offer from a Turkish club tomorrow. The offer would be about $1 million, with another $2 million going toward a $6 million buyout for his Spanish team, DKV Joventut. Real Madrid also is in talks with Joventut, according to Shea. An NBA team is allowed to pay just $500,000, with the rest coming out of Rubio's future earnings.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06282009/sports/knicks/rubio_receives_overseas_offers_176502.htm

If he signs in Europe somewhere Rubio will inversely become a god in NYC.
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6/28/2009  10:46 AM
This is just one reason to pass on European players and also why Minny took Flynn right after him as insurance.

I'm sorry...but something HAS to be done about european draft eligibility. If you put your name into the draft whatever you sign allowing this must work as a contract binding you by law to report to the NBA team that drafts you. If you don't report you should face massive fines that will either force these players to report or force them to decide against entering the draft.

It is terribly unfair for the teams who burn picks on them to be spurned so easily. These guys see where they are drafted and by who and if they either go too low or not to a team they want they just turn around and stay in Europe.

Another thing: If they are still under contract in Europe - regardless of a buyout situation - they should be barred from entering the draft. It should be for legit FAs ONLY!
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6/28/2009  10:53 AM
What can be done? The United States doesn't have sovereignty over Euros. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a ploy to get the Wolves to trade him sooner rather than later. Rubio is a competitor and I am sure he wants to play against the best competition. And I think playing for a premier franchise appeals to him most because it appeals to his countrymen.

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6/28/2009  11:06 AM
It's not unfair at all. The American clubs know what they're getting themselves into by drafting Euros. It's not like it's a secret or anything.
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6/28/2009  11:13 AM
Ricardo is well on his way.
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6/28/2009  11:15 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Ricardo is well on his way.


I think that's Brandon Jennings more than Rubio. Rubio is a humble nice kid by all accounts.

Jennings is the one that didn't show up for the lottery but then after he was picked he decided to come down and he had the nerve to ask to be introduced on someone else's time. What an attention whore.
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6/28/2009  11:19 AM
Posted by orangeblobman:

It's not unfair at all. The American clubs know what they're getting themselves into by drafting Euros. It's not like it's a secret or anything.

Agreed. In the long run, it will just cause Euro's stock to drop further as teams shy away from the risk. I think it really lays with the agents of these players to get their clients straight, as their the ones whose pocketbooks and reputations suffer.
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6/28/2009  11:42 AM
It's completely unfair and what can be done? They're applying for work in the United States. We damn sure do have control over that.

It's absurd this has been allowed to continue all these years and defending it leaves me speechless.
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6/28/2009  12:23 PM
With the 5th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Minnesota Timberwolves select Ricky Rubio from DKV Joventut.

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6/28/2009  2:16 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

It's completely unfair and what can be done? They're applying for work in the United States. We damn sure do have control over that.

It's absurd this has been allowed to continue all these years and defending it leaves me speechless.

lol..what is unfair about it exactly? American clubs know what picking a Euro entails...they're not deceiving them or being tricky. There are greater absurdities to take care of at home before we attack European players and European clubs.
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6/28/2009  2:19 PM
Teams know exactly the risk they take on when drafting a Euro and their contract issues. Thats why Rubio was taken 5th and not 2nd in this draft. Don't fall under the spell of Kahn.

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6/28/2009  2:43 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Teams know exactly the risk they take on when drafting a Euro and their contract issues. Thats why Rubio was taken 5th and not 2nd in this draft. Don't fall under the spell of Kahn.


Khan is going to be a prick. He should just let Rubio come to NY. He is going to persist on ruining an 18 year old kids dream of playing for the Knicks. I'm sure the Knicks can make a nice offer to meet Khan's needs. Khan should do what is right that is let the Kid come to NY and once Walsh retires he will hand the job over to you. Its a win win Rubio gets to get out of Minn. Khan gets to get out of Minn too.

Walsh and Khan need to make it happen.
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6/28/2009  2:51 PM
if Kahn let Rubio slip past him at 5 & 6, he wouldn't have a job still in MIN... but had that happened NY would've ended up w/either Rubio or Curry, so i'm sure he would have been able to find a job in NY soon after.
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6/28/2009  2:55 PM
Kahn basically played a Blitzkrieg here- what he had was a lot of picks and a roster that needed upgrades. Getting Rubio either gave them a huge talent or a huger trade piece than what was given for the no.5 pick. I'm sure he's thinking he can't lose by either bringing Rubio in or some point or by holding him hostage for some established NBA talent in return.

Problem is the Knicks are the team that would agressively take on that buyout and we don't have what Minnesota really needs unless we throw in Hill into any trade.
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6/28/2009  3:03 PM
We could trade our 2011 pick and whatever combination, since they are ready to let him play in Spain for 2 years, a pick two year later would work, no?
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6/28/2009  3:04 PM
Posted by loweyecue:

We could trade our 2011 pick and whatever combination, since they are ready to let him play in Spain for 2 years, a pick two year later would work, no?

I don't think we can trade our 2011 pick since you can't trade your first rounder in consecutive years.
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6/28/2009  3:09 PM
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6/28/2009  4:17 PM
This seems like more posturing to me.
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6/28/2009  4:29 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

This is just one reason to pass on European players and also why Minny took Flynn right after him as insurance.

I'm sorry...but something HAS to be done about european draft eligibility. If you put your name into the draft whatever you sign allowing this must work as a contract binding you by law to report to the NBA team that drafts you. If you don't report you should face massive fines that will either force these players to report or force them to decide against entering the draft.

It is terribly unfair for the teams who burn picks on them to be spurned so easily. These guys see where they are drafted and by who and if they either go too low or not to a team they want they just turn around and stay in Europe.

Another thing: If they are still under contract in Europe - regardless of a buyout situation - they should be barred from entering the draft. It should be for legit FAs ONLY!

Wait - how about you let NBA teams pay more than a token $500k towards his buy out. The Turkish team is giving him $2mm towards his buy out.

And why did Kahn pick him and then Flynn? Because he knew Rubio didn't want to go to Minnesota?

Then, Kahn knows the only reason he picked him was to trade him.
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