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6/26/2009  9:04 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Report-Ricky-Rubio-s-father-says-son-may-remain?urn=nba%2C172985

Report: Ricky Rubio's father says son may remain in Spain

By J.E. Skeets

Leading up to the NBA Draft there was chatter of Ricky Rubio's preference to play in a big market. Well, Minnesota certainly isn't one, and according to the Spanish sports site Marca.com, the father of the new Timberwolves point guard says his son may remain in Spain for a few more years rather than play in the NBA. Talk about cold feet.

Ricky's pop, Esteve Rubio: "Ahora mismo, es muy probable que Ricky se quede uno o dos años en Europa." Translated, it says, "Right now, it is possible that Ricky plays a year or two more in Europe."

"Tenemos que hablar con la gente de Minnesota ... y ver lo que pasa, porque, a estas horas, podemos estar en Minnesota o en otra parte", declaraba." Loosely translated: "We are going to speak with the [people, staff] of Minnesota and see what's happening, because, in some hours, we may be in Minnesota or in another place."

Earlier in the evening, Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports reported that the Knicks were working hard to cut a deal with the Timberwolves to acquire Rubio. New York's a big enough market, si? The flashy teen was one of three point guards taken by Minnesota in the opening round of the Draft, with new Wolves general manager David Kahn snapping up Ricky at No. 5, Jonny Flynn of Syracuse at No. 6 and North Carolina's Ty Lawson at No. 18, though he was subsequently traded to Denver.

Decisions, decisions ...
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6/26/2009  9:09 AM
I'm hoping Minnesota wants Nate or Lee
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6/26/2009  9:10 AM
Timberwolves president David Kahn admitted on Thursday night that the team isn't in full control of Ricky Rubio's buy out situation.

"Nobody here tonight, myself especially, will be banging his fist on the table, saying, 'He must be here!' It's a very complicated matter," Kahn said Thursday night. "We need to understand that we're not in control of the situation vis a vis the buyout. ... I think it's too early to worry about that. But I said this to the agent tonight: If any team in this league can afford to wait a year, dare I say two, it's us. Y'know? It's us."

There were rumors on Draft Night that Rubio might not buy his way out of his contract with DKV Joventut and join Minnesota for this coming season.

Kahn downplayed the belief that Rubio's new revelation had something to do with him not wanting to playing for the Timberwolves.

"I don't think it's a destination problem," Kahn said. "I believe he would have been more than happy to play in Oklahoma City. And with all due respect to Oklahoma City ..."
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6/26/2009  9:15 AM
So I wonder if his Dad is alluding to Spain or another NBA team when he says "in some hours we may be in Minnesota or another place"

I heard a rumor that Kahn has publicly stated they will not trade Rubio...can anyone confirm this?
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6/26/2009  9:18 AM
Posted by OasisBU:

So I wonder if his Dad is alluding to Spain or another NBA team when he says "in some hours we may be in Minnesota or another place"

I heard a rumor that Kahn has publicly stated they will not trade Rubio...can anyone confirm this?

he did say that - forget where i saw it. but this will be a developing situation. the problem is that we just do not have the chips necessary to acquire Rubio. maybe a third team really covets DLee and has something Minnesota really wants once they realize that if they wait on Rubio for two years they'll all be fired? i dunno.
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6/26/2009  9:18 AM

Look at Rubios face when he stood up and looked at his mother. My son and I wer laughing cuz he was clearly disappointed, then put on the game face and smiled.

Kahn likely has a deal cooked up or can now negotiate trades with teams and with ones that meet the kids needs. This also gives his agent time to now negotiate some endorsement deals to pay for the kids release.

Drafting two points makes no sense as they did unless they got other options. THey gave up a lot for that 5th pick.

SIgn and trade with bulls for Ben Gordan? Knicks give them Hill and Chandler for Rubio? (high price but not if Rubio is the real deal!) Something with Dlee?

I don't know, but Wolves need tall backcourt scoring at the 2.
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6/26/2009  9:20 AM
Posted by OasisBU:

So I wonder if his Dad is alluding to Spain or another NBA team when he says "in some hours we may be in Minnesota or another place"

I heard a rumor that Kahn has publicly stated they will not trade Rubio...can anyone confirm this?

He has been saying it publicly since he drafted the guy but some refuse to believe him. He stated it ESPN just 40 minutes ago again.
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6/26/2009  9:24 AM
Posted by Nalod:


Look at Rubios face when he stood up and looked at his mother. My son and I wer laughing cuz he was clearly disappointed, then put on the game face and smiled.

Kahn likely has a deal cooked up or can now negotiate trades with teams and with ones that meet the kids needs. This also gives his agent time to now negotiate some endorsement deals to pay for the kids release.

Drafting two points makes no sense as they did unless they got other options. THey gave up a lot for that 5th pick.

SIgn and trade with bulls for Ben Gordan? Knicks give them Hill and Chandler for Rubio? (high price but not if Rubio is the real deal!) Something with Dlee?

I don't know, but Wolves need tall backcourt scoring at the 2.

if they REALLY believe Wilson could be a 2, they might be interested in Wilson. But everyone knows Wilson is a three.

Rubio is an absolute star - anyone who is sold on him and has really watched him play knows this. The Wolves are not going to trade him for our bench players we drafted at the end of the first round. Hahn is making a gamble and it may come back to bite him, but I think he'll try to wait it out a year. Who knows, maybe in October they panic and trade - but if he's really a Walsh disciple my guess is that the first thing Walsh taught him is patience.
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6/26/2009  9:30 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Nalod:


Look at Rubios face when he stood up and looked at his mother. My son and I wer laughing cuz he was clearly disappointed, then put on the game face and smiled.

Kahn likely has a deal cooked up or can now negotiate trades with teams and with ones that meet the kids needs. This also gives his agent time to now negotiate some endorsement deals to pay for the kids release.

Drafting two points makes no sense as they did unless they got other options. THey gave up a lot for that 5th pick.

SIgn and trade with bulls for Ben Gordan? Knicks give them Hill and Chandler for Rubio? (high price but not if Rubio is the real deal!) Something with Dlee?

I don't know, but Wolves need tall backcourt scoring at the 2.

if they REALLY believe Wilson could be a 2, they might be interested in Wilson. But everyone knows Wilson is a three.

Rubio is an absolute star - anyone who is sold on him and has really watched him play knows this. The Wolves are not going to trade him for our bench players we drafted at the end of the first round. Hahn is making a gamble and it may come back to bite him, but I think he'll try to wait it out a year. Who knows, maybe in October they panic and trade - but if he's really a Walsh disciple my guess is that the first thing Walsh taught him is patience.

He could be a two if you've got a dominant point that can set him up. Could be that for us if we could ever get a friggin point guard.
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6/26/2009  10:15 AM
Kahn can wait a year or two, but he'll be doing it with another employer.

Ricky NEVER has to come here. Don't buy the "can't pay his team" with the 5 money.

He can take a loan, insurance to cover it. This is no problem.

HE don't want to be in Minny.

Khan has a trading chip. With all the picks and trades teams can now deal with less intangables. Minny will make a nice trade with his draft rights.

The only problem I have with him in NY is if he makes a bad pass to Darko he might just run into the stands after Ruby's mother!


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6/26/2009  10:21 AM
IMO, in a couple of years, Rubio whether in Europe and in the states will be a guy that everyone will say man, I can't believe the hype that was placed on him. Two years ago it was Yi and how he was going to be a star. It will begin to fade. Much like the we got to get Vujanic over here now stuff. I don't think much of these batch of point guards overrall. As far as I'm concern this draft is all about Griffin and what his future holds. I think it is similar to the Duncan draft. Where it is all about Duncan and a bunch of guys that got drafted behind him.
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6/26/2009  11:12 AM
They translated this wrong:
Ricky's pop, Esteve Rubio: "Ahora mismo, es muy probable que Ricky se quede uno o dos años en Europa." Translated, it says, "Right now, it is possible that Ricky plays a year or two more in Europe."

Actually says: Right now, it's very likely/probable that Ricky will stay a year or two in Europe.
"Tenemos que hablar con la gente de Minnesota ... y ver lo que pasa, porque, a estas horas, podemos estar en Minnesota o en otra parte", declaraba." Loosely translated: "We are going to speak with the [people, staff] of Minnesota and see what's happening, because, in some hours, we may be in Minnesota or in another place."

Actually says: We have to speak with the folks from Minnesota... and see what happens, because, currently, we could be in Minnesota or in another place.

Not a huge difference, other than in tone and certainty. He certainly wasn't just hinting at anything, or making it seem like there's only a small chance of difficulties. Looks like he is saying strongly that there will be problems for Minny in getting Rubio to play for them any time soon.
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6/26/2009  11:56 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:

IMO, in a couple of years, Rubio whether in Europe and in the states will be a guy that everyone will say man, I can't believe the hype that was placed on him. Two years ago it was Yi and how he was going to be a star. It will begin to fade. Much like the we got to get Vujanic over here now stuff. I don't think much of these batch of point guards overrall. As far as I'm concern this draft is all about Griffin and what his future holds. I think it is similar to the Duncan draft. Where it is all about Duncan and a bunch of guys that got drafted behind him.

ur comparing Milos to Rubio? please... not even close.

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6/26/2009  12:03 PM
The thing that irks me is that these guys never have to come over. You look at Houston's 1st rounder and that guy turned around and signed a 4 year contract back overseas immediately following the draft.

I don't see how this should be allowed there should be litigation written into entering the draft where you are bound by some form of a contract/law to actually play for the team that drafts you or you face banishment from the league and a hefty fine.

It's not fair to teams who draft Weiss, Vasquez, Milos, etc. It just isn't.

Now, if Rubio just wants to finish his contract and not worry about the buyout that's fine but why come out THIS year and not when you're a true FA? As to Minny the can surely afford to wait 2 seasons for him. If we had Rubio maybe we can afford to wait 1 at most. Minny selecting Flynn tells me two things: Either they knew Rubio can't come over for 2 years and Flynn would be the stopgap while they wait - or - they selected Rubio as Nalod said as purely an asset to use in leverage in trades down the road.

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6/26/2009  12:23 PM
What is Kahn supposed to say - Yea, I'm trading him to NY for S&T Lee & Nate? Tampering.

He has to say he selected him to keep him.

I think they have a deal worked out in principal.

Makes too much sense.
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6/26/2009  12:24 PM
Posted by franco12:

What is Kahn supposed to say - Yea, I'm trading him to NY for S&T Lee & Nate? Tampering.

He has to say he selected him to keep him.

I think they have a deal worked out in principal.

Makes too much sense.

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6/26/2009  12:30 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

The thing that irks me is that these guys never have to come over. You look at Houston's 1st rounder and that guy turned around and signed a 4 year contract back overseas immediately following the draft.

I don't see how this should be allowed there should be litigation written into entering the draft where you are bound by some form of a contract/law to actually play for the team that drafts you or you face banishment from the league and a hefty fine.

It's not fair to teams who draft Weiss, Vasquez, Milos, etc. It just isn't.

Now, if Rubio just wants to finish his contract and not worry about the buyout that's fine but why come out THIS year and not when you're a true FA? As to Minny the can surely afford to wait 2 seasons for him. If we had Rubio maybe we can afford to wait 1 at most. Minny selecting Flynn tells me two things: Either they knew Rubio can't come over for 2 years and Flynn would be the stopgap while they wait - or - they selected Rubio as Nalod said as purely an asset to use in leverage in trades down the road.

Kahn said they were well aware of Rubio's situation prior to the draft. BTW, if Jennings is Marbury, does that make Rubio similar to Francis?
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6/26/2009  1:23 PM
This is just dumb....I hope this really isn't a set-up to get Rubio in NY...imagine if that were true and they get found out and the Knicks gotta forfit stuff??? They would make an example out of the Knicks liek they always do....

Here's hoping something good comes of this whole thing.
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6/26/2009  1:47 PM
Anybody want to take a crack at this?

Here are a few lines translated

Ricky Rubio: "Right now I wouldn't rule out at all returning to Spain." El Pais

Ricky Rubio: "It's surprising that, aside from me, they choose another point guard at No. 6, but let's see what they want." El Pais

Ricky Rubio: "It's a team that would even wait a year for me, so we'll see if I come over next year or not." El Pais

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MINNESOTA: "Es sorprendente que, además de a mí, en el número 6 escojan a otro base, pero vamos a ver qué quieren ellos. Yo no hablé con ellos, pero mi agente sí. Cuando ha empezado el draft estábamos seguros de que Blake Griffin saldría como número 1 y a partir de ahí los otros estábamos esperando a ver qué pasaba. Ha ido pasando el draft y mi agente me ha dicho que me iban a escoger el número 5. Es un equipo que me esperaría incluso un año, así que vamos a ver si vengo el año que viene o no".

ESPERAR O NO: "Yo no hablé con ellos (Minnesota Timberwolves), por lo tanto no tengo la necesidad de venir. La NBA es muy atractiva, pero si tú no quieres estar en el equipo que hay en ese momento, pues puedes esperar. Ahora el trabajo es de los agentes, si quiero ir a otro equipo mejor o esperar un año o ir a Minnesota, que tampoco es una mala opción".

PLANES: "La verdad, cuando empezó el draft sí me veía con alguna gorra. Estaba haciendo planes, como el 3 era Oklahoma pues ir allí, después Sacramento me quería mucho y me hice la idea de Sacramento. Después tuve la opción de ir al número 8 y decirles a los otros siete que no iba a venir y venir a New York. Al final, esta semana he pensado que lo mejor sería dejar de pensar y que las cosas pasaran porque cada minuto estaba en un equipo diferente y me iba a volver loco. A mis amigos les dije 'me da igual, estoy aquí, lo voy a disfrutar".

NBA: "La NBA no es nada parecido a Europa. Aquí el jugador no tiene el poder de decidir dónde quiere ir, es diferente a Europa, donde tú decides dónde ir. Los equipos te pueden cambiar y puedes estar un día en un sitio y mañana en otro".

ESPAÑA: "Todo es estudiar a ver qué equipos, si tengo minutos, si vengo a jugar desde el principio. Vamos a ver pero ahora no descarto para nada volver a España".

JOVENTUT: "Eso nunca se sabe. Como he dicho siempre, mi casa es Badalona y, si tengo que volver, muchas opciones las tiene Badalona".
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6/26/2009  1:52 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Pharzeone:

IMO, in a couple of years, Rubio whether in Europe and in the states will be a guy that everyone will say man, I can't believe the hype that was placed on him. Two years ago it was Yi and how he was going to be a star. It will begin to fade. Much like the we got to get Vujanic over here now stuff. I don't think much of these batch of point guards overrall. As far as I'm concern this draft is all about Griffin and what his future holds. I think it is similar to the Duncan draft. Where it is all about Duncan and a bunch of guys that got drafted behind him.

ur comparing Milos to Rubio? please... not even close.

Pharzeone appears to believe Kahn when he says that he can have a backcourt of Rubio at PG and Flynn at SG, so you have to take that into consideration when he compares Rubio to Vujanic.
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