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Elite
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6/24/2009  9:51 AM
Alan Hahn keeps saying this guy is a target, and a lot of people on the board seem to want him.. One question...

WHY??????????

from Everything I read this guy is a typical New York Knick player.. and I mean past 5 years new york knick player.

He makes bad decisions, can't shoot, dominates the ball.... I've heard comparisons to BOTH Larry Hughes and Jamal Crawford...

PUKE

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Would you want this guy???????????????
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6/24/2009  9:56 AM
prototypical nba ready body raises his stock. his shooting is just average. who on the knicks has better than average shooting besides gallo and nate? he would be a young qrich in some respects.
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6/24/2009  10:02 AM
Posted by Cartman718:

prototypical nba ready body raises his stock. his shooting is just average. who on the knicks has better than average shooting besides gallo and nate? he would be a young qrich in some respects.

that sounds awful and unappealing... our team does not need that!!!
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6/24/2009  10:03 AM
I'm with Briggs on the fact that Evans is one of the Top 3 players in this draft. He has an NBA-ready body (6'6 for that matter) which is huge in terms of PG, he can get to the hoop, he can create his own shot, plays D and is not a questionable character guy.

He was only a freshman last year and he played great basketball, he's only going to get better. I'm all for drafting him.
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6/24/2009  10:10 AM
From his Minn. workout: "Evans is HUGE. He showed an incredible combination of size/speed/athleticism/jumping ability/pure bull strength/defense/shooting ability that I have not seen from any prospect since, dare I say, this one really tall muscular guy that one a big award this past year. Again, I have been very critical of Evans, but this guy looked like a mini Lebron out there. He dominated in the one on ones, finishing at the rim time and time again after showing very impressive moves and ball handling along with his explosive athleticism. He dominated every single point guard there, jonny flynn was really the only one who stopped him once or twice, and it was more Evans just missed than him stopping him. In the 1-on-1s, the players would have to work to get open for an in-bounds pass, and then had four seconds to get a shot off...most often they received the ball between the top of the key and half court, and evans would get to the rim with ease, bull rushing, juking, spinning, whatever he wanted to do, he did. He made Jennings basically fall down a couple times, and hit 3s in the face of lawson and flynn that drew pretty big Ohhhhs from the small crowd watching on.

Evans hit a handful of 3's in the one on ones and 3-on-3 drills, Including a game winning 3 in the face of i believe Ty Lawson to end the workout. He was simply a man amongst boys today. Tyreke definitely shot better than I had imagined, that will not be an issue down the road."
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6/24/2009  10:17 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm with Briggs on the fact that Evans is one of the Top 3 players in this draft. He has an NBA-ready body (6'6 for that matter) which is huge in terms of PG, he can get to the hoop, he can create his own shot, plays D and is not a questionable character guy.

He was only a freshman last year and he played great basketball, he's only going to get better. I'm all for drafting him.

Well, I'm not. He has the physical gifts to eventually become one of the best players in the draft. But he sure hasn't done enough to be considered third best yet. I don't see it. Not at all.

Evans *could* be a pretty awesome pro. But so could Tyler Hansborough and you know what? I'd rather take him than Evans. Evans *could* be much better than Hansborough but at least he is pretty much guaranteed to be serviceable-to-good. Evans is boom or bust. He's looked great in workouts, but he's the biggest guy competing in drills against POINTS. I'm sorry but Evans hasn't run the point yet and I don't care how much bigger he is than Chris Paul, he's done nothing yet where I think he won't hurt the team against better competition. And for the record, I think Evans is a SG.
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6/24/2009  10:33 AM
Posted by Elite:

Alan Hahn keeps saying this guy is a target, and a lot of people on the board seem to want him.. One question...

WHY??????????

from Everything I read this guy is a typical New York Knick player.. and I mean past 5 years new york knick player.

He makes bad decisions, can't shoot, dominates the ball.... I've heard comparisons to BOTH Larry Hughes and Jamal Crawford...

PUKE

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Would you want this guy???????????????

The guy was the second best player in the draft BEFORE he showed off his new and improved jumper. Forget it--this guy has all star type capabilities and he's all of 19 years old. There are few people his size with his handle and he's going to be able to dominate games at times simply because he's going to be too much to handle one on one--especially from the 1 guard. He brings every fact to the table. You see how some people are touting Terrance Williams---T will never had a year like Evans did at 19--he was to busy shooting 37%.
And you look at his production as a freshmen and take into account that his team won 25 games in a row after he was shifted to 1 guard and capped it off with 33 points 5 rebounds and 4 assits againt Mizz--a Mcds MVP and future NBA star. There is no waiting for Evans--hes going to be good from day 1. When I hear him compared to Bayless or Jamal Crawford it is truly laughable and I have to think these comparisons are simply from the lack of viewing him play.
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6/24/2009  10:43 AM
If you don't know why Evans would be a good pick, then you haven't watched him play much. He was NBA-ready coming out of high school last year. Don't fool yourself into thinking he can't ball.
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6/24/2009  10:59 AM
this is interesting, u guys are making me think twice. Sounds like he could be good.. But is he a fit on this team???
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6/24/2009  11:52 AM
I hate to break it to you but getting a Larry Hughes from this draft picking at 8 is not really a bad haul. He's gonna have some degree of success on the NBA level, but just not sure he's a lead dog.

[Edited by - vdesai on 06-24-2009 11:53 AM]
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6/24/2009  12:46 PM
NBA offense works almost exclusively around pick and roll - for that reason, Rubio and Curry are your best options at guard. Beyond that, whether its Evans, Harden, Jennings, or the other crap available, its really a non-factor.

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6/24/2009  12:59 PM
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Posted by codeunknown:

NBA offense works almost exclusively around pick and roll - for that reason, Rubio and Curry are your best options at guard. Beyond that, whether its Evans, Harden, Jennings, or the other crap available, its really a non-factor.

It's a talent league always has been always will be. Tyreke Evans is the second best talent in this draft. He can handle the ball as good as any 5-11 guard in the draft and the power to go right through them. He is a mismatch nightmare and has all the tools. He has star player written all over him. In fact I would say its Evans Griffin and everyone else.



[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-24-2009 1:01 PM]
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6/24/2009  1:07 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

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Posted by codeunknown:

NBA offense works almost exclusively around pick and roll - for that reason, Rubio and Curry are your best options at guard. Beyond that, whether its Evans, Harden, Jennings, or the other crap available, its really a non-factor.

It's a talent league always has been always will be. Tyreke Evans is the second best talent in this draft. He can handle the ball as good as any 5-11 guard in the draft and the power to go right through them. He is a mismatch nightmare and has all the tools. He has star player written all over him. In fact I would say its Evans Griffin and everyone else.



[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-24-2009 1:01 PM]

Sure its a talent league, but when your talents don't allow you to score, you're more or less screwed. In this case, more screwed. Ball-handling without the first-step to make a quick move, ability to shoot of the dribble with consistency and without the athleticism to finish against bigger defenders makes you a side-show rather than an all-star. Evans' stock, I'd say, is a product of a thin draft.
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6/24/2009  1:11 PM
i'm with you.

no to evans, for the most part.
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6/24/2009  1:20 PM
Posted by Elite:

this is interesting, u guys are making me think twice. Sounds like he could be good.. But is he a fit on this team???


Simpleton

Some of you guys are amazing. You start a thread basically bashing the guy without ever seeing him play...and completely changed your opinion because of what a few people posted. Hilarity.


anyway..I hardly ever agree with Briggs but, IMO, he is on the money about this guy.

EVANS or CURRY. I want one of those two wearing a Knicks as he shakes Sterns hand
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6/24/2009  1:25 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by Elite:

this is interesting, u guys are making me think twice. Sounds like he could be good.. But is he a fit on this team???


Simpleton

Some of you guys are amazing. You start a thread basically bashing the guy without ever seeing him play...and completely changed your opinion because of what a few people posted. Hilarity.


anyway..I hardly ever agree with Briggs but, IMO, he is on the money about this guy.

EVANS or CURRY. I want one of those two wearing a Knicks as he shakes Sterns hand

Faggoton

I stated "from what I read" in my post, never did i claim to see him play... I said "sounds like".. I diddnt totally change my opinion, i said u guys are making me think twice and it sound slike he COULD be good. Whats the problem?

I made the post cuz I had yet to read any reasons why we should take him, and wanted explination.. which is what i got... is that ok with you?
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6/24/2009  1:26 PM
evans or curry would be a dream come true. but they are both top 5 picks in this draft. i don't see anyway we get either one.
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6/24/2009  1:29 PM


These videos are the only things that have ever given me pause on Evans. In crunch time he ran an awkward offense and although Memphis wins it, it wasn't because they outplayed Tennessee. Then against Tulsa, same deal, they win, but Evans makes some poor plays.

He makes plays to win the game and plays to lose the game sometimes in the same possession.

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6/24/2009  1:30 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

evans or curry would be a dream come true. but they are both top 5 picks in this draft. i don't see anyway we get either one.

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6/24/2009  1:30 PM
i'm not really familiar with Evans. I read this on draft express. Does he really have as many holes in his game as this scouting report spells out??

"Weaknesses: His jumpshot has shown very little progress and he continues to struggle with inconsistent shooting … Most of his shooting woes can be directly pointed at his unorthodox release … He slings the ball from behind his head, losing sight of it completely at the point of release … Must improve his midrange game, his pullup lacks rhythm, often leaving him off balance with varying results … A bit of a tweener at this point, does not have the blazing speed or quickness to play as a PG full time, and lacks the vertical explosiveness possessed by the wing players … A decent athlete with an unreliable outside shot (a combination that is not ideal for the next level), he will have to rely on his deceptiveness and crafty game off the dribble to get by defenders … Has always had the ball in his hands and been allowed to operate freely, will he be able to adapt and still be effective playing off the ball and does he know how to use screens or how to work in a traditional half court set? ... Is still prone to tunnel vision, where he seems to forget about his teammates … Defensively, he is a bit lackadaisical, and while he does have long arms, because of questionable lateral quickness he will have to work extremely hard to contain the ball on the perimeter … The 3.6 TOs per game are a result of both the system he was in, and his out of control play … Needs to learn to pick his spots better, rather than attacking into traffic and getting into trouble …"
Tyreke Evans.... Why ?????

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