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djsunyc
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6/16/2009  5:04 PM
stallworth drunk drove and killed a man. sentenced to 30 days in jail in a plea agreement.

micheal vick got 2 years.

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6/16/2009  5:29 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

stallworth drunk drove and killed a man. sentenced to 30 days in jail in a plea agreement.

micheal vick got 2 years.

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6/16/2009  5:32 PM
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6/16/2009  6:08 PM
What is there to discuss? It's disgusting, a failure. I hope he suffers in life and that many bad things come to him later on. This jerk deserves a life sentence, and he gets 30 days. Disgusting.
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6/16/2009  6:10 PM
White guy quits high school to play baseball. White hockey player, and white tennis player never finishes high school and it is fine. Basketball players have to wait a year before they can go into the NBA.
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6/16/2009  6:13 PM
^^ What does that have to do with anything?? That's stupid.
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6/16/2009  6:15 PM
from what I understand Stallworth took responsibility immediately and told the cops then and there it was his fault. They worked out a settlement immediately to avoid a civil trial, which likely means Stallworth was generous out of the gate. He should definitely be held accountable but what's the point of destroying two lives from his mistake especially when he likely will be working in the community after this
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6/16/2009  6:16 PM
OH , so you can kill a man but as long as you take responsibility right away, hey, it's ok!!! What a baseless argument. The reason this thing got off so easy is because of all the apologists like you in our society.
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6/16/2009  6:19 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:

What is there to discuss? It's disgusting, a failure. I hope he suffers in life and that many bad things come to him later on. This jerk deserves a life sentence, and he gets 30 days. Disgusting.

OMG, I know! Almost as bad as flicking a shoe at a police officer!
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6/16/2009  6:20 PM
Posted by King1:

White guy quits high school to play baseball. White hockey player, and white tennis player never finishes high school and it is fine. Basketball players have to wait a year before they can go into the NBA.

no white guys who play basketball?
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6/16/2009  6:23 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:

OH , so you can kill a man but as long as you take responsibility right away, hey, it's ok!!! What a baseless argument. The reason this thing got off so easy is because of all the apologists like you in our society.

Ha. Dude, the man is going to carry that with him for the rest of his days--irregardless of whether he is jailed or executed or not. There are something that cannot be undone and the only reason to make him pay with time is revenge or bloodlust. Lastly, most times deals like this aren't made without the blessing of the victim's family
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6/16/2009  6:25 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:

^^ What does that have to do with anything?? That's stupid.

Maybe he is typing while under the influence?

Perhaps talk of the Knicks picking Hill and its impact on David Lee's future tenure as a Knick has unnerved him?

Strange response on his part, but Why? is the real puzzle here.
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6/16/2009  6:38 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by orangeblobman:

OH , so you can kill a man but as long as you take responsibility right away, hey, it's ok!!! What a baseless argument. The reason this thing got off so easy is because of all the apologists like you in our society.

Ha. Dude, the man is going to carry that with him for the rest of his days--irregardless of whether he is jailed or executed or not. There are something that cannot be undone and the only reason to make him pay with time is revenge or bloodlust. Lastly, most times deals like this aren't made without the blessing of the victim's family

That's an insane way to look at it. Every crime anyone ever commits will be 'with them forever'; that isn't a substitute for receiving just punishment within the legal system.

Regular people routinely do hard time, like 15, 20, 30 years for dui manslaughters (google it), but this piece of crap gets 30 days? AND YOU THINK IT'S OKAY???

It's disgusting what these stupid athletes get away with. They should do this one over and lock him up for life.
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6/16/2009  7:49 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

from what I understand Stallworth took responsibility immediately and told the cops then and there it was his fault. They worked out a settlement immediately to avoid a civil trial, which likely means Stallworth was generous out of the gate. He should definitely be held accountable but what's the point of destroying two lives from his mistake especially when he likely will be working in the community after this


I am not a lawyer but I also think florida has a law that reduces the charges if the victim was partly responsible for their demise... In other words if a person is driving a car over the alcohol limit, and someone runs a red light, hits their car and the person running the red light dies in the accident.. although the person in the other car was over the limit, the accident was unavoidable and inevitable and was not caused by the manner in which they( the person drinking and driving) operated the vehicle, then they can be held to a lesser charge...


I guess this law was put in place so people who may be over the limit but were in an accident due to no fault of their own, would not spend 15 years in jail, just because someone else was reckless and they happened to be over the alcohol limit...
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6/16/2009  7:53 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by orangeblobman:

OH , so you can kill a man but as long as you take responsibility right away, hey, it's ok!!! What a baseless argument. The reason this thing got off so easy is because of all the apologists like you in our society.

Ha. Dude, the man is going to carry that with him for the rest of his days--irregardless of whether he is jailed or executed or not. There are something that cannot be undone and the only reason to make him pay with time is revenge or bloodlust. Lastly, most times deals like this aren't made without the blessing of the victim's family

That's an insane way to look at it. Every crime anyone ever commits will be 'with them forever'; that isn't a substitute for receiving just punishment within the legal system.

Regular people routinely do hard time, like 15, 20, 30 years for dui manslaughters (google it), but this piece of crap gets 30 days? AND YOU THINK IT'S OKAY???

It's disgusting what these stupid athletes get away with. They should do this one over and lock him up for life.


actually I think you will find those kind of sentences not to be routine... Mostly in cases where it wasn't their first DUI offense do the courts lower the hammer... A guy I went to HS with amir sealy lost his brother and former NBA player for the minny timerwolves, malik sealy in a car accident, was killed by a Drunk driver. the guy was arrested before driving under the influence, before the sealy accident, then after the sealy accident, he was just given a few years in jail. I think he served like 3 years. AFter leaving jail, he was arrested again for DUI in which the courts just lowered the hammer on him......
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6/16/2009  8:43 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

from what I understand Stallworth took responsibility immediately and told the cops then and there it was his fault. They worked out a settlement immediately to avoid a civil trial, which likely means Stallworth was generous out of the gate. He should definitely be held accountable but what's the point of destroying two lives from his mistake especially when he likely will be working in the community after this


I am not a lawyer but I also think florida has a law that reduces the charges if the victim was partly responsible for their demise... In other words if a person is driving a car over the alcohol limit, and someone runs a red light, hits their car and the person running the red light dies in the accident.. although the person in the other car was over the limit, the accident was unavoidable and inevitable and was not caused by the manner in which they( the person drinking and driving) operated the vehicle, then they can be held to a lesser charge...


I guess this law was put in place so people who may be over the limit but were in an accident due to no fault of their own, would not spend 15 years in jail, just because someone else was reckless and they happened to be over the alcohol limit...

The victim was not partially responsible for his demise...he was a 50+ year old construction worker walking home to his family after a hard day at work.
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6/16/2009  10:01 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

from what I understand Stallworth took responsibility immediately and told the cops then and there it was his fault. They worked out a settlement immediately to avoid a civil trial, which likely means Stallworth was generous out of the gate. He should definitely be held accountable but what's the point of destroying two lives from his mistake especially when he likely will be working in the community after this


I am not a lawyer but I also think florida has a law that reduces the charges if the victim was partly responsible for their demise... In other words if a person is driving a car over the alcohol limit, and someone runs a red light, hits their car and the person running the red light dies in the accident.. although the person in the other car was over the limit, the accident was unavoidable and inevitable and was not caused by the manner in which they( the person drinking and driving) operated the vehicle, then they can be held to a lesser charge...


I guess this law was put in place so people who may be over the limit but were in an accident due to no fault of their own, would not spend 15 years in jail, just because someone else was reckless and they happened to be over the alcohol limit...

The victim was not partially responsible for his demise...he was a 50+ year old construction worker walking home to his family after a hard day at work.


one of the arguments in the case was if the victim was in the crosswalk, and if not then it could have been a situation that would have been avoidable for anyone, sober or not.... I am not saying that the victim was responsible, but they do have crosswalks for a reason. a few winters ago, I saw someone try to run across the street to catch a bus, he was hit by some poor old white lady in a very ethnic area, she was terrified, but could not avoid hitting the man... The man was not in the cross walk and she could not avoid him. The reason why she is not in jail is because she didn't have a drink, although the outcome would have been the same.. the guy died by the way...


this was from the CBS. sports wire
According to the report, Stallworth told officers he flashed his lights to try to warn 59-year-old Mario Reyes, a construction crane operator who was rushing to catch a bus after getting off work around 7:15 a.m. March 14.

Police said Stallworth was driving about 50 mph in a 40 mph zone. They are investigating whether alcohol played a role in the accident. No charges have been filed against Stallworth pending the outcome of blood tests.

A police diagram shows that Reyes was hit in the far left lane of the six-lane MacArthur Causeway -- not in a nearby crosswalk. Stallworth stopped a few feet away.

Not making any excuses for stallworth, he should not have been driving, period, I am just trying to give some insight as to why his sentence may not have been as harsh....

[Edited by - tkf on 16-06-2009 10:10 PM]
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6/16/2009  10:07 PM
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6/16/2009  10:08 PM
Talks of having "a good lawyer" and other bull**** is totally retarded. This sucks...still Mike Vick did have an underground business going on. He deserved something. This Dui cause death of a human being...30 days????

Orangeblobman brought up race...it makes you wonder. Why didn't they throw the book at this guy and make an example out of him?

Same question I ask about guys with substance abuse....how could you be a crack head(that baseball player) and a crystal meth addict(birdman nba) and be given a chance. Guys in the nba get passed on just because they had a "rep" for being friends with street goons. Guys can lead the big east in scoring and not get drafted (Jamel Thomas, Telflair's brother)....

Whatever you know....the guy will have to live with the manslaughter all his life and that is punnishment enough...the incident can't be undone and there is no use calling for blood since it can't bring the lives back.

Give me a ****in break.....If I skateboard drunk and run over a bird I'm going to jail for 2 years.....

I haven't been home yet to catch the coverage.....are they going insane about it like how they did with Mike Vick or are they just non-chalant about it?
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6/16/2009  10:25 PM
^I actually didn't bring up race, at all....I don't know why you think it was me lol.

Crazy stuff, overall, if any one of you ever kills a man while drunk driving, please try to post here after you get sentenced for 20 years.

[Edited by - orangeblobman on 06-16-2009 10:27 PM]
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