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6/16/2009  11:46 AM
I think that this pick is very important to them--they REALLY want one of two players and they have that massive Mobley savings contract + their own lottery pick to offer up Wash at 5 or Sacramento at 4 + possibly another 2-3mm in cash. That is a lot of ammunition in a tough $ environment. If one of the two is sitting at 5--I think the Knicks deal up.
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6/16/2009  11:53 AM
agreed.
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6/16/2009  12:26 PM
Also agree - there is a lot of weight on this pick considering the need to attract top FA talent in 2010 and the fact that we have no first round pick next year.
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6/16/2009  12:35 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I think that this pick is very important to them--they REALLY want one of two players and they have that massive Mobley savings contract + their own lottery pick to offer up Wash at 5 or Sacramento at 4 + possibly another 2-3mm in cash. That is a lot of ammunition in a tough $ environment. If one of the two is sitting at 5--I think the Knicks deal up.

Assume you are talking Rubio or Curry, or do you think Walsh really has a crush on Thabeet (if Memphis passes him up).


I would also expect us to be moving up.
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6/16/2009  1:10 PM
I think we stay put. Walsh is too patient at times and it back fires.
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6/16/2009  1:11 PM
Posted by mikesknicks:

I think we stay put. Walsh is too patient at times and it back fires.

I agree.
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6/16/2009  1:40 PM
Posted by Paladin55:
Posted by BRIGGS:

I think that this pick is very important to them--they REALLY want one of two players and they have that massive Mobley savings contract + their own lottery pick to offer up Wash at 5 or Sacramento at 4 + possibly another 2-3mm in cash. That is a lot of ammunition in a tough $ environment. If one of the two is sitting at 5--I think the Knicks deal up.

Assume you are talking Rubio or Curry, or do you think Walsh really has a crush on Thabeet (if Memphis passes him up).


I would also expect us to be moving up.

I think Walsh might take Thabeet at 20
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6/16/2009  1:42 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by mikesknicks:

I think we stay put. Walsh is too patient at times and it back fires.

I agree.

I think that much will depend on how "smitten" MDA is with any of the PG crop he has watched so far. If we pick a PG at 8 it is obviously with MDA's blessing- but if we move up to pick Curry or Rubio it is with his urging.
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6/16/2009  1:44 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Paladin55:
Posted by BRIGGS:

I think that this pick is very important to them--they REALLY want one of two players and they have that massive Mobley savings contract + their own lottery pick to offer up Wash at 5 or Sacramento at 4 + possibly another 2-3mm in cash. That is a lot of ammunition in a tough $ environment. If one of the two is sitting at 5--I think the Knicks deal up.

Assume you are talking Rubio or Curry, or do you think Walsh really has a crush on Thabeet (if Memphis passes him up).


I would also expect us to be moving up.

I think Walsh might take Thabeet at 20

Who knows, he might just be there.
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6/16/2009  1:59 PM
i really hope they move up

Rubio - Gallo - Chandler --> building blocks for the future
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6/16/2009  2:09 PM
Posted by kingofelpaso:

i really hope they move up

Rubio - Gallo - Chandler --> building blocks for the future

completely agree and think if you add someone like Chris Bosh into the mix the Knicks will be in the Eastern Conference Finals more often than not
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6/16/2009  2:20 PM
I hope so. If we get a real chance at Hill, Curry, Rubio then I'd be thrilled.
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6/16/2009  2:29 PM
Posted by kingofelpaso:

i really hope they move up

Rubio - Gallo - Chandler --> building blocks for the future

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6/16/2009  2:38 PM
Chandler actually defends pretty well, he gets a decent number of steals and block. He lead the team in blocks (although that says just about as much about the other players than it does for him), but still he's athletic enough to still with most players at his position

Gallo, hasnt even been healthy yet. And when he was playing he actually showed some decent signs of being at least a sufficient defender. Once he gets healthy and puts on some weight, I think he'll be able to be a decent defender. I remember one particular block he had on Shaq, there could be more of that to come.

Rubio was the defensive player of the year in his league. He might have problems staying in front of some quicker guards, but I'll be he does well in the steal department.

Add the 3 of them with a big shot blocker down low and I think they could at least be a solid defensive unit, even if none of them are individually excellent defenders

I agree w/ Supreme, add Bosh and youve got a team fighting for the East in a year or 2 and a pretty attractive destination for the crop of 2010, names excluded
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6/16/2009  2:54 PM
Unless they are putting up a smoke screen and really see someone available at 8 I think it's almost a guarantee we will trade up. The Mobley contract is just tooooo valuable. Plus throw in 3 million, we are talking a 10 million dollar savings, plus the other team gets the 8th pick. Really, that is a great deal.

Being in Germany and being that there will be a lot of trades (imo) during the draft I just can't bear to stay up. I'm gonna get up early on Friday morning and see all that happened...
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6/16/2009  2:58 PM
Funny how people assume Rubio is a subpar defender when everythng points to the contrary. Total reverse discrimination.
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6/16/2009  3:02 PM
the only way i see the Knicks trading up is to get Rubio.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-16-2009 12:02 PM]
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6/16/2009  3:04 PM
Posted by purple012870:

Funny how people assume Rubio is a subpar defender when everythng points to the contrary. Total reverse discrimination.

looks like Jason Kidd to me in the clips i've seen... seems like a great ballhawking defender & shoots the passing lanes very well to get steals... very deceptive quickness & awesome court vision on display in some highlights... he's got all the tools to be a terrific defender at the NBA level.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-16-2009 12:04 PM]
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6/16/2009  3:28 PM
The descriptions of Rubio has me wondering if Magic did more than just play ball in Barcelona in the 92 Olympics?

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6/16/2009  3:34 PM
realize i'm talking about the way he looks in the clips dude & who he seems to remind me of... i've admitted plenty of times none of us really know enough about the guy to make a definitive projection... but leave it to u to take it to the extreme & assume i'm saying he's gonna be the next Jason Kidd.
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