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6/10/2009  8:27 AM
Ricky Rubio now must deal with the Spanish government if he wants to play in the NBA.

The guard has been trying to get out of his contract with Spanish league team DKV Joventut but has met resistance. On Tuesday, according to the Spanish news agency EFE, Rubio sued the team after learning that it had transferred the rights to his buyout to Hacienda, the Spanish version of the Internal Revenue Service. The rights were sold to satisfy a debt Joventut had with Hacienda.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4246467

this guy seems to be all drama.
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6/10/2009  8:43 AM
Yeah, thats why Im appreciating Stephen Curry more and more everyday. Things are too crazy with Rubio.


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6/10/2009  8:45 AM
Posted by McK1:
Ricky Rubio now must deal with the Spanish government if he wants to play in the NBA.

The guard has been trying to get out of his contract with Spanish league team DKV Joventut but has met resistance. On Tuesday, according to the Spanish news agency EFE, Rubio sued the team after learning that it had transferred the rights to his buyout to Hacienda, the Spanish version of the Internal Revenue Service. The rights were sold to satisfy a debt Joventut had with Hacienda.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4246467

this guy seems to be all drama.

Why is he drama? His buyout situation is absolutely ridiculous - he has to pay the team 6million bucks to play in the NBA, yet he only earns $175,000 next year if he stays.
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6/10/2009  8:52 AM
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Yeah, thats why Im appreciating Stephen Curry more and more everyday. Things are too crazy with Rubio.



I'm not sure who we will or should draft but if came down to Rubio, Jennings, Curry, I think it is an absolute no brainer you go with the known product in Curry. Besides, Rubio and Jennings statistics make me real wary of them. If they can't shoot in Euroleague what makes us think they can shoot here? The answer is: They probably cannot.

Now, I know Rubio is hailed as a floor general, and lets get it right: Jason Kidd couldn't shoot a lick either but was considered a top PG for a decade. Is that the case with Rubio?

I don't think any of us know do we.

As to the buy out, unless it is secured in advance of the draft, he's going to go like Manu did - 57th in the draft. Then look what happened. Manu came over and owned the league.

There was Sabonis who did not come over for TEN YEARS but finally did. There is Weiss, Milos, Vasquez all who balked at coming over (there ought to be litigation written into the draft regarding this, where if said player does this, he has to pay the team that drafted him a 500K fine. Enough with this.)

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6/10/2009  8:56 AM
I am really hoping we either get Curry or trade for Sergio right now. The question for me is if we get Sergio and Curry and Derozan are available at 8..DO you still pick Curry?

PG-Sergio
SG-Curry
SF-The Mayor
PF-Gallo
C-??

That is a weak defensive team but man they would be scoring at will.
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6/10/2009  8:58 AM
My question is...How dumb is Rubio and his advisers for letting him get entangled in a ridiculous buyout like this?
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6/10/2009  9:30 AM
DOn't confuse the contract with the player.

I don't know how a contract can get so out of whack unless he is getting endorsement deals under the table as a handshake extension of his contract. I don't know when he signed it or if had buried language nobody understood.

Its been long understood that there are some real nasty owners of Euro teams.

Nothing wrong with trying to get that buyout down by any means.
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6/10/2009  9:37 AM
My thinking is that Rubio felt that being on this team was an opportunity of a lifetime and probably felt he had no chance of being an NBA player. Now he has a chance and he's regretting that contract.

Those contracts are awful though.

I think if a team wants to draft Rubio, they should have the players chip in towards the buyout, and Rubio will pay back later. That's if he can't get any endorsement deals.
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6/10/2009  9:52 AM
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Ricky Rubio now must deal with the Spanish government if he wants to play in the NBA.

The guard has been trying to get out of his contract with Spanish league team DKV Joventut but has met resistance. On Tuesday, according to the Spanish news agency EFE, Rubio sued the team after learning that it had transferred the rights to his buyout to Hacienda, the Spanish version of the Internal Revenue Service. The rights were sold to satisfy a debt Joventut had with Hacienda.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4246467

this guy seems to be all drama.

Why is he drama? His buyout situation is absolutely ridiculous - he has to pay the team 6million bucks to play in the NBA, yet he only earns $175,000 next year if he stays.

how many 16-17 year olds in any place in the world make 90k a year at their first job and get double that the next?
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6/10/2009  10:03 AM
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Ricky Rubio now must deal with the Spanish government if he wants to play in the NBA.

The guard has been trying to get out of his contract with Spanish league team DKV Joventut but has met resistance. On Tuesday, according to the Spanish news agency EFE, Rubio sued the team after learning that it had transferred the rights to his buyout to Hacienda, the Spanish version of the Internal Revenue Service. The rights were sold to satisfy a debt Joventut had with Hacienda.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4246467

this guy seems to be all drama.

Why is he drama? His buyout situation is absolutely ridiculous - he has to pay the team 6million bucks to play in the NBA, yet he only earns $175,000 next year if he stays.

how many 16-17 year olds in any place in the world make 90k a year at their first job and get double that the next?

6 Mil is insane though. These things are how euro teams guard against losing talent though. You can't trade players like in the NBA so you put up buyouts as a way to retain a player and discourage another team from trying to grab him.

6 Mil...again, is something I have NEVER heard of. It's usually in the .5-2M range if I recall previous players. Sadly, NBA team are only allowed to put up as much as 350K (or is it 500K now? I think it might be) towards a buyout of an international player. The rest is on that player.

So you know what? Rubio does not have 5.5M (all due right then and there as one giant lump sum) to win his freedom.

Yet, back to the player's intelligence on this, why would you sign such a contract with such a clause in it? Now you suddenly have regrets? Know what? Tough titties.

You sign a binding contract you are bound to that contract and made to fulfill it. I can't cry for someone that suddenly has regrets after probably grinning ear to ear the day he signed into it.

Now, he is young, and being young and dumb and full of, well you know, you can make mistakes. Yet, that is an awfully big one.

Guess what, Rubio, you should have just kept your mouth shut, forgot about the potential big bucks in the NBA (you know he sees a rookie contract can lead to a max contract if you're a star, and lets fast facts, this is what it is all about), and manned up and finished out your contract and THEN made yourself available for the NBA Draft down the road.

Yet, no, now he has completely screwed himself, he now can't play basketball, is property of the Spanish government.... What a disaster. It's his doing though so you can only question how this is possible in Spain but you can not rip on it for it is law. Law that should be known by a player's agent.

Tears I will not shed over that.
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6/10/2009  10:09 AM
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Ricky Rubio now must deal with the Spanish government if he wants to play in the NBA.

The guard has been trying to get out of his contract with Spanish league team DKV Joventut but has met resistance. On Tuesday, according to the Spanish news agency EFE, Rubio sued the team after learning that it had transferred the rights to his buyout to Hacienda, the Spanish version of the Internal Revenue Service. The rights were sold to satisfy a debt Joventut had with Hacienda.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4246467

this guy seems to be all drama.

Why is he drama? His buyout situation is absolutely ridiculous - he has to pay the team 6million bucks to play in the NBA, yet he only earns $175,000 next year if he stays.

how many 16-17 year olds in any place in the world make 90k a year at their first job and get double that the next?

I'm sorry by thats not a valid argument, we all know player salaries are out of control, but you can't hold it against a kid for being good enough to get that money.

Theres no reason Steven Strausberg who was the first pick in the MLB draft should get 25mill before stepping on a pro field, but he will.
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Ricky Rubio now must deal with the Spanish government if he wants to play in the NBA.

The guard has been trying to get out of his contract with Spanish league team DKV Joventut but has met resistance. On Tuesday, according to the Spanish news agency EFE, Rubio sued the team after learning that it had transferred the rights to his buyout to Hacienda, the Spanish version of the Internal Revenue Service. The rights were sold to satisfy a debt Joventut had with Hacienda.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4246467

this guy seems to be all drama.

Why is he drama? His buyout situation is absolutely ridiculous - he has to pay the team 6million bucks to play in the NBA, yet he only earns $175,000 next year if he stays.

how many 16-17 year olds in any place in the world make 90k a year at their first job and get double that the next?

6 Mil is insane though. These things are how euro teams guard against losing talent though. You can't trade players like in the NBA so you put up buyouts as a way to retain a player and discourage another team from trying to grab him.

6 Mil...again, is something I have NEVER heard of. It's usually in the .5-2M range if I recall previous players. Sadly, NBA team are only allowed to put up as much as 350K (or is it 500K now? I think it might be) towards a buyout of an international player. The rest is on that player.

So you know what? Rubio does not have 5.5M (all due right then and there as one giant lump sum) to win his freedom.

I really have no idea how Euroleague contracts work but in every NBA contract payscale we've ever been privy to on hoopshype when has a players salary doubled the next year.

IMO there is alot more to this Rubio situation than the Spaniards strong arming him or being greedy.

and he isn't buying his freedom. he is trying to buy his way out of one contract to get into another one that will pay him 10 x's more. He has the option of waiting two years and then declaring for the
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6/10/2009  10:16 AM
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Ricky Rubio now must deal with the Spanish government if he wants to play in the NBA.

The guard has been trying to get out of his contract with Spanish league team DKV Joventut but has met resistance. On Tuesday, according to the Spanish news agency EFE, Rubio sued the team after learning that it had transferred the rights to his buyout to Hacienda, the Spanish version of the Internal Revenue Service. The rights were sold to satisfy a debt Joventut had with Hacienda.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4246467

this guy seems to be all drama.

Why is he drama? His buyout situation is absolutely ridiculous - he has to pay the team 6million bucks to play in the NBA, yet he only earns $175,000 next year if he stays.

how many 16-17 year olds in any place in the world make 90k a year at their first job and get double that the next?

I'm sorry by thats not a valid argument, we all know player salaries are out of control, but you can't hold it against a kid for being good enough to get that money.

Theres no reason Steven Strausberg who was the first pick in the MLB draft should get 25mill before stepping on a pro field, but he will.

Things are THAT crazy in the pro-sports world. Thats why it keeps losing fans each day.

About Rubio, I think its downright ABUSE to pay a player 90k-170k and yet have a 6-7.5 million buyout. Its so disproportionate to the contract that it shouldn't be allowed, EVER. That has "Anti-NBA" written all over it. Then, once Rubio makes it to the NBA and starts having success, he will be the face of Spain, the team will be so proud of him and all that sh!t. Hypocrites.


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6/10/2009  10:19 AM
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Things are THAT crazy in the pro-sports world. Thats why it keeps losing fans each day.

About Rubio, I think its downright ABUSE to pay a player 90k-170k and yet have a 6-7.5 million buyout. Its so disproportionate to the contract that it shouldn't be allowed, EVER. That has "Anti-NBA" written all over it. Then, once Rubio makes it to the NBA and starts having success, he will be the face of Spain, the team will be so proud of him and all that sh!t. Hypocrites.



All I can think is that they felt he was that much of an amazing prospect, a cash cow on the advertising front, that they did not want to risk losing him to the NBA or another country.

What else could it be?

Remember: Yao Ming's buyout was that half of his earnings went back to China, the military government wing at that. Now, I don't know what happened since his newest contract, but the terms of China allowing him to initially come to the US was half his rookie contract went back to them - half his advertising earnings went back to them.

It's a different world out there (crappy cliche, I know, but it fits). So who really knows? We're spoiled brats here in the US so we don't understand it one bit.
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6/10/2009  10:26 AM
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Ricky Rubio now must deal with the Spanish government if he wants to play in the NBA.

The guard has been trying to get out of his contract with Spanish league team DKV Joventut but has met resistance. On Tuesday, according to the Spanish news agency EFE, Rubio sued the team after learning that it had transferred the rights to his buyout to Hacienda, the Spanish version of the Internal Revenue Service. The rights were sold to satisfy a debt Joventut had with Hacienda.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4246467

this guy seems to be all drama.

Why is he drama? His buyout situation is absolutely ridiculous - he has to pay the team 6million bucks to play in the NBA, yet he only earns $175,000 next year if he stays.

how many 16-17 year olds in any place in the world make 90k a year at their first job and get double that the next?

I'm sorry by thats not a valid argument, we all know player salaries are out of control, but you can't hold it against a kid for being good enough to get that money.

Theres no reason Steven Strausberg who was the first pick in the MLB draft should get 25mill before stepping on a pro field, but he will.

How much time did that Euroleague club put into creating ricky rubio? I'm quite sure just like here guys over there start getting scouted before they even hit their pre-teens? Only diff is they can go pro midway thru highschool over there whereas here they can't make money till the NBA.
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6/10/2009  10:28 AM
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How much time did that Euroleague club put into creating ricky rubio? I'm quite sure just like here guys over there start getting scouted before they even hit their pre-teens? Only diff is they can go pro midway thru highschool over there whereas here they can't make money till the NBA.

China and Russia start investing in athletes when they are around 7 years old. Once it's seen you're good, they literally kidnap you, they own you, they train you, all in the name of a chance to make the country money when/if you make it and pay your "tax" to that country as you succeed.

It's really kind of sad to be honest. They treat athletes the way we treat child actors. That's the best analogy I can come up with. Except here, the child actors are raped financially by their parents, not the government.
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6/10/2009  10:32 AM
That is crazy,his agent should be shot and his parents should be no longer be part of his future. Honestly though it doesn't seem like teams are making it a major issue when speaking about him so there has to be more to it
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6/10/2009  10:48 AM
Way too much drama. Someone said don't confuse the contract with the player but that is one of the factors used in the decision process. If he is already causing trouble for his current team why would you not think he wouldn't be an issue for any team that drafted him. That is what you call good indicators. Dude signed the contract while his agent looked on. What is the issue?
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6/10/2009  10:51 AM
What does he know at 16 years old
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What does he know at 16 years old

Good point, doesn't seem like he mature much in two years either and should be avoided by NBA teams in general. Needs time to grow up.
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