For anyone that's interested. It's channel 73 by me (Verizon Fios).

7-10am is a replay of Day 1 which originally aired yesterday. Day 2 coverage coming up at 10am. No measurements so far, unless I missed it. It's all drills so it's hard to really come away with anything here. The Combine's all good but the head-to-head competition of the Orlando Pre-draft camp was much more telling. I can go out in front of my friend's house and run drills. You really need to see these guys play against one another to really come away with anything..


[Edited by - finestrg on 05-29-2009 08:56 AM]

Posted by Finestrg:

I think 10am might be Day 2 of the Combine, not a replay of yesterday. Not sure...

I think that 7-10AM is Day 1, and from 10-12PM is Day 2.

Day 1 pretty ho-hum so far... Thought Curry looked real good early on with the PGs. I personally think he's a heck of a lot quicker than people realize and of course, he just lit up the shooting drill. Maynor had a pretty rough go of it out there, both handling the ball and shooting it.

Shooting guards - Meeks looked the best. Extremely quick and knocked down all his shots. Meeks is only testing the waters right now - if Meeks goes back to school, with John Wall & coach Cal. coming in & Patterson staying another year, Kentucky could win it all next year. It's a gamble but it might make some sense for Jodie to go back to school and possibly get himself in the 1st round next year (this year, he's a projected 2nd round pick). McClinton shot it pretty well too out there - there's a spot for this kid in the NBA. He's an Eddie House-type that should be able to do more things... Jermaine Taylor didn't really look great and they said he may only be 6'3". Guy can shot it, but I don't care for the Stuckey comparison..

[Edited by - finestrg on 05-29-2009 09:57 AM]

Posted by Finestrg:

Did you watch Day 1 Pal? Pretty ho-hum so far right? Thought Curry looked real good early on with the PGs. I personally think he's a heck of a lot quicker than people realize and of course, he just lit up the shooting drill.

I'm having my girfriend burn all 5 hours this morning and will look at them over the weekend.

This DraftExpress article is a bit depressing to read, though:

http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/#Word-on-the-Street-NBA-Combine-Edition-3235

Almost all of the "top" prospects, including Evans and DeRozan, will not be participating in the competitive portion of the Combine.

Some of the prospects- undoubtedly instructed by their agents, are doing strange things according to this article. Harden does would not interview with anyone outside of the top 5 draft slots (he is also out of the competitive part of the combine. DeRozan is not only out of the competitive drills, but has also decided not to do any competitive workouts for any team (Harden has made this decision, also), and may not even interview with Toronto, because he does not expect to be free past the 8th slot.

I just wonder if any of this will come back to haunt Evans, DeRozan, or Harden, and they might find themselves being picked in the teens.

I also wonder if any promises have been made by teams to these guys which make them so confident about where they are going to be picked.

By the way, if you like Curry, you don't want him doing too well in this thing, because others will be impressed. DExpress also mentioned that Charlotte might be looking to trade up to get him- Brown thinks he can be a 1 or 2 in the NBA. I saw some brief highlights of him online. He is slick, and you can see that he could be a nice guy to have playing SG now and then because he has such a quick release.

I have said this before- the Knicks should come out with a pretty good player from this draft.

Griffin
Rubio
Thabeet
Hill
Harden
Evans
DeRozan
Curry
Holiday
Jennings

Assuming that the first 3 are gone, the Knicks will get one of the underlined players, or any other player we might fall in love with who does not sneak into top 7 picks.

Not a bad group to choose from.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 05-29-2009 09:32 AM]

Posted by Finestrg:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Mullens will end up as one of the top 3 or 5 players in this draft when they go back and evaluate it in a few years

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 05-29-2009 09:27 AM]

Just got done watching the bigs and to be fair Mullens did look pretty good out there. Pretty good form on the jumper even shooting a top of the key NBA 3.

Not to many 7 footers in the NBA shoot the rock yet can also get an alleyoop 3 feet above the rim . He can run the floor he's atheltic he can post it shoot it from mid range he's got ups which will help him eventually be a good rebounder and solid shot blocker--get him into a good system like this and he's a weapon---he's young enough to teach him to find the open man--he's got a world of upside but he can also play right now. He is not an unskilled project--he can play. It's obvious that he's not an idiot or loafer--he just went to the wrong situation. If he was on St Johns and played 35 minutes he'd be looked at differently. He went to a school dominated by 5 wing players and a coach who did not get the best out of him--although he did shoot 70% in the Big ten.

interesting how they are saying rubio was told by gasol and whoever else from spain played on memphis how that was not his ideal situation to live, and that they think thabeet will be their pick.

btw, thabeet measured at 7'1" 1/2 inches tall, not 7'3".

Posted by BRIGGS:

If I was running things we would end up with Mullens and Teague and I would get it done

can't you buy out the franchise from dolan?

Here are player measurements:
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Measurements-released-3236/

Name			NoShoes	Shoes	Weight	WingspanReach
dejuan blair		6'5.25	6'6.5	277	7'2	8'10.5
chase budinger		6'6.25	6'7	206	6'7	8'5
Omri Casspi		6'7.75	6'9.25	211	6'9.25	8'10.5
Earl Clark		6'8.5	6'10.25	228	7'2.5	9'1.5
Darren Collison		6'0.25	6'1.5	166	6'3	8'0.5
Stephen Curry		6'2	6'3.25	181	6'3.5	8'1
Austin Daye		6'9.75	6'10.75	192	7'2.75	9'2
Demar Derozan		6'5.5	6'6.5	211	6'9	8'6.5
Wayne Ellington		6'4.25	6'5.25	202	6'6.5	8'4
Tyreke Evans		6'4	6'5.25	221	6'11.25	8'8
Jonny Flynn		6'11.25	6'0.75	196	6'4	7'11.5
Blake Griffin		6'8.5	6'10	248	6'11.25	8'9
Tyler Hansbrough	6'8.25	6'9.5	234	6'11.5	8'10
James Harden		6'4	6'5.25	222	6'10.75	8'7.5
Gerald Henderson	6'4	6'5	215	6'10.25	8'6.5
Jordan Hill		6'9.25	6'10.25	232	7'1.5	9
Jrue Holiday		6'3.25	6'4.25	199	6'7	8'4.5
James Johnson		6'7	6'7.75	257	7'0.75	8'9.5
Gani Lawal		6'7.75	6'9	229	7	8'10
Ty Lawson		5'11.25	6'0.5	197	6'0.75	7'10.5
Eric Maynor		6'2.25	6'3.25	164	6'2.5	8'1
Patrick Mills		5'11.25	6'0.5	175	6'2	7'11
B.J. Mullens		6'11.75	7'1.25	258	7'1.5	9'3
DaJuan Summers		6'7.25	6'8.5	243	7'0.75	8'10.5
Jeff Teague		6'0.25	6'1.5	175	6'7.5	8'2.5
Hasheem Thabeet		7'1.25	7'2.5	267	7'6.25	9'5
Marcus Thornton		6'2.75	6'3.75	194	6'5	8'3
Terrence Williams	6'5	6'6.25	213	6'9	8'7.5
Sam Young		6'5.25	6'6.75	223	6'10.75	8'9.5
Jermaine Taylor		6'3.5	6'4.75	207	6'8.75	8'5 

Flynn's measurements can't be right...it doesn't make sense.

Interesting that after one dude is questioning Rubio because of his weaknesses, later another says that other than Griffin every player has major question marks, so in that context he says A) that's why the draft is weak, and B) why Rubio is a top 3 pick.

He also says his shooting has improved over the past year, and his pro experience is unparalleled...

he then finished saying he thinks one team will move up to get him because of the buyout situation.

"Jennings is THE mystery man in this draft."

[Edited by - PresIke on 05-29-2009 10:42 AM]

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by BRIGGS:

If I was running things we would end up with Mullens and Teague and I would get it done

can't you buy out the franchise from dolan?

No but I can offer sound opinion. Both Teague and Mullens are better than Steph Curry. People forget how good Teague was until he slumped. He was a top 3 pick at one point--getting him at 10 or less is a steal.

It seems to me people are also forgetting how good Curry was last year, putting a mid-major school on his back and carrying them to the elite 8. Then to come back the following year an have an even better season, while playing a different position and carrying a bulls eye on his back all year. 2 straight years of really good play vs. a half of year for Teague. I'm leaning towards Curry myself.