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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
Posted by Pharzeone: i thought we had a nice discussion going already here http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=31014&page=1 but then a couple'a douschebags decided to go off on a tangent. anyway, this one says "Official" & it's stickied... dj's pullin his juice card! After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Pharzeone
Posts: 32183 Alba Posts: 14 Joined: 2/11/2005 Member: #871 |
Posted by TMS:Posted by Pharzeone: I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
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Marv
Posts: 35540 Alba Posts: 69 Joined: 9/2/2002 Member: #315 |
nice. thanks phar.
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
i already posted my brilliant breakdown of my boy's YouTube clip on the other Knicks #8 pick thread, so i'll just repost it here
take a look at this kid... don't tell me he's just another athletic kid who's lacking basketball skills... the first 2:25 is all dunks... the rest shows his ball handling ability, his skills breaking down his man off the dribble & getting to the hole, the good form on his perimeter J, & his ability to stop & pop on the fastbreak... & take a look at that nasty ass block of a shot he makes at 2:54... he even makes a very nice no look pass off the fastbreak to a teammate on the wing later on at 3:25 & another at 3:35... late in the clip there's a ton of him blocking shots, making shots off the dribble, stoppin' & poppin' throughout the second half of these highlights... u telling me he doesn't remind u of Vince or T-Mac in these clips? IMO, once scouts see this kid work out for their teams & shows them what he can do, he's gonna shoot up the draft board... i wouldn't even be surprised to see a team take him at #3. Derozan is every bit as athletic as T-Mac & even at only 19 yo is already bigger & stronger than T-Mac right now... IMO he's gonna be a beast in a couple years, a ~235 lb SG w/elite athleticism, hops & great form & elevation on his jumpshot in a few years, you can quote me on that... like i said, give this kid a few years & let him build some consistency w/that perimeter J, & he'll be every bit as good as T-Mac if not better... Derozan was putting up better #'s per game (29 / 8 / 4) his last year in HS than T-Mac did (25 / 7 / 6)... the kid was shooting at an 81% clip from the field & 53% from 3 pt. range!!! i laugh when people tell me this kid's got no skills other than being able to jump high... he had some typical freshman year struggles at USC but by the end of the year he was balling bigtime & outplaying much more highly touted SG prospects at the time like Harden & Holiday. Plus the kid showed up bigtime in the Pac10 championship game, which shows incredible maturity & ability to come up big when your team needs it most, unlike Harden who completely disappeared. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
Posted by Pharzeone: Jrue does play tenacious defense but his finishing skills around the basket & his ballhandling still need a lotta work... he's got a pretty underrated J but a sorta slow & low release on his shot so i'm wondering if he'll have problems getting off his shot if he's playing the 2G position at the NBA level... he uses his length pretty well but he's not especially explosive or quick off the dribble either... he's got some nice hops for a guy his size, but right now he's more Smush Parker than D Wade... i think he's an interesting prospect tho because of his size, defensive ability & strength at the PG position (if that's how NBA teams decide to use him), but he doesn't really bring much wow factor when it comes to huge upside potential if u ask me. here's a head to head meeting of Holiday & Derozan this past season... the first half is all Holiday highlights, the second half Derozan... now apart from the obvious huge size differential between these 2 kids, look at how much more explosive & fluid Derozan is when he takes off towards the basket, & how much more elevation & higher release point he gets on his jumpshots... look at the 2:55 mark where Derozan doesn't give up when the other team has a 3 on 0 fastbreak & ends up blocking the layup attempt from behind with a nasty rejection... at the 3:25 point of the clip Derozan gets the ball in transition beyond the NBA 3 pt line & easily drives to the hole in 2 dribbles & 3 steps for an easy layup... if the Knicks are lucky enough to have Derozan slip to them at #8 they'd be absolute fools not to pick this kid. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Pharzeone
Posts: 32183 Alba Posts: 14 Joined: 2/11/2005 Member: #871 |
I was sold on DeRozan since he left HS last year and thought he could have a shot of being a Knick but his stock surge again late this season. I have given up hope of getting him so now I find myself just trying to focus on those I expect could be available at 8.
I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
yeah, me too, i don't expect him to be there either but crazier things have happened... i just got a weird feeling that the Knicks wouldn't take him even if he did slip if Curry were on the board... i think that whole Lebron connection & the fact that he's such a great shooter has MDA so Jonesin for that kid we're not even looking at a kid w/superstar potential like Derozan, but i hope i'm wrong.
for what it's worth, i think i'd rather have Curry than Teague or Maynor if i had a choice of the 3... Jennings is a hard one to call cuz he doesn't look all that great in Euro clips like u said but his HS stuff is pretty damn impressive... his shot definitely needs a lotta work tho, i think Curry is way above him in terms of development & would probably appeal to the Knicks way more because he'd make more of an instant impact & i think that's the type of player Walsh is looking for. [Edited by - TMS on 05-28-2009 6:18 PM] After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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djsunyc
Posts: 44929 Alba Posts: 42 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #536 |
NBA teams take to Chicago for combine |
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djsunyc
Posts: 44929 Alba Posts: 42 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #536 |
Isn’t it nice when everyone can get what they want? With a glut of frontcourt bodies already on the hook in Los Angeles, it appears that if the Clippers can find a taker for Baron Davis, they’d be willing to swap the No. 1 pick for No. 3 pick in this year’s NBA Draft. |
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eViL
Posts: 25412 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/21/2004 Member: #561 USA |
Posted by djsunyc:Isn’t it nice when everyone can get what they want? With a glut of frontcourt bodies already on the hook in Los Angeles, it appears that if the Clippers can find a taker for Baron Davis, they’d be willing to swap the No. 1 pick for No. 3 pick in this year’s NBA Draft. Classic. The only problem. It just happens to be an ENORMOUS problem. check out my latest hip hop project: https://soundcloud.com/michaelcro http://youtu.be/scNXshrpyZo
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