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JesseDark
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5/17/2009  11:57 PM
If the Knicks were playing in the 2nd round of the playoffs against either Orlando or Boston who would've helped more. Stephen Curry or a big?
IMHO we gotta get something in the middle that can run and block shots. This is such a critical draft piece - I don't want them to f it up.
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5/18/2009  12:11 AM
The way we play? Probably a shooter like Curry or a distributor like Rubio. But that doesn't mean we don't need a big man in the middle, but I'd rather see them pick #2 and get Rubio than pick #3 and get Thabeet.


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5/18/2009  9:45 AM
I think a defensive presence would've helped more against Howard. Without away to slow him down or get him in foul trouble IDK if a distributor would've mattered.
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5/18/2009  10:21 AM
What would be wrong with taking 7-1 260 BJ Mullens at 8 and finding a PG like Calathes Holiday etc.. down the line in the draft where we can grab another pick? While he doesnt have overwhelming speed strength or athletic ability Nick Calathes is a 6-5 PG who will cause problems once he fills out.

I agree with you though--to me the guy in the middle is more important than the guy who will distribute--especially in this draft where there is a bunch of them. Its very possible a PG picked at 27 could be better than a PG picked at 8 in this draft

In terms of big players--you have Thabeet--top 3 pick not likely to see him Mullens who can run the floor very well finish with good touch or explosion and will be able to block shots and rebound the ball or Luke Nevill who will make the league but is slowish for the Knicks and not first round material--everyone else is a 4.
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5/18/2009  10:25 AM
donnie walsh wants a shot blocking center for the roster.
d'antoni already talked about point guard.

if they win the lotto, they will take rubio or thabeet (depending if they pick 1, 2, or 3) and they will take curry at 8. i think it's pretty much set.
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5/18/2009  10:28 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

donnie walsh wants a shot blocking center for the roster.
d'antoni already talked about point guard.

if they win the lotto, they will take rubio or thabeet (depending if they pick 1, 2, or 3) and they will take curry at 8. i think it's pretty much set.

I'm not sold on Rubio quite yet. If they take either of those guys ahead of Griffin, I'll be ready to jump on the fire "Waltoni" bandwagon.
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Posted by djsunyc:

donnie walsh wants a shot blocking center for the roster.
d'antoni already talked about point guard.

if they win the lotto, they will take rubio or thabeet (depending if they pick 1, 2, or 3) and they will take curry at 8. i think it's pretty much set.

I dont see them taking Thabeet.
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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by djsunyc:

donnie walsh wants a shot blocking center for the roster.
d'antoni already talked about point guard.

if they win the lotto, they will take rubio or thabeet (depending if they pick 1, 2, or 3) and they will take curry at 8. i think it's pretty much set.

I dont see them taking Thabeet.

At #3 they could.


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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by djsunyc:

donnie walsh wants a shot blocking center for the roster.
d'antoni already talked about point guard.

if they win the lotto, they will take rubio or thabeet (depending if they pick 1, 2, or 3) and they will take curry at 8. i think it's pretty much set.

I dont see them taking Thabeet.

if they get #3, they will take him. walsh has mentioned a million times over about a shot blocking center. he picked up a bunch of reject shot blockers this season too (in sims and lamb). he won't pass on thabeet regardless of what d'antoni wants.
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Posted by djsunyc:

if they get #3, they will take him. walsh has mentioned a million times over about a shot blocking center. he picked up a bunch of reject shot blockers this season too (in sims and lamb). he won't pass on thabeet regardless of what d'antoni wants.

I hope you are right. I remember when the Nets passed on Mutombo so they could pick Kenny Anderson, and then Sacramento picked up Billy Owens. It seems like some people can never learn.

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Posted by oohah:
Posted by djsunyc:

if they get #3, they will take him. walsh has mentioned a million times over about a shot blocking center. he picked up a bunch of reject shot blockers this season too (in sims and lamb). he won't pass on thabeet regardless of what d'antoni wants.

I hope you are right. I remember when the Nets passed on Mutombo so they could pick Kenny Anderson, and then Sacramento picked up Billy Owens. It seems like some people can never learn.

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The games of skilled guards usually translate better than big man projects whom one hopes will "develop" in the league.

Kenny was an all-world talent who liked to party more than win. I dont know what the hell Billy Owens deal was.

And btw, Mutombo at GU SHYTS all over Thabeet at UConn.
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The games of skilled guards usually translate better than big man projects whom one hopes will "develop" in the league.

I wish I had time so I could go down the list of lottery guards who didn't pan out. Thabeet is not Adonyl Foyle or Olowakandi. He can already play and has proven he can dominate against tough competition.
Kenny was an all-world talent who liked to party more than win. I dont know what the hell Billy Owens deal was.

Anderson simply could not do the same things against NBA competition. This is a common occurrence with star guards.
And btw, Mutombo at GU SHYTS all over Thabeet at UConn.

Very interesting. Thabeet stacks up very well against him: Thabeet is taller, stronger, faster, jumps higher, has more coordination, and shoots better than Mutombo at the same stage. He also has had equal or better recognition from man awards standpoint and similar if not better success.

So again, I don't mean to call you out or anything, but I don't think you really watched Mutombo play in college.

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5/18/2009  11:50 AM
Man, Oohah I'm not trying to hear none of that.

In Mutombo's rookie year he averaged almost 17pts per game and had about 12 and a half boards and gang of blocks. Rookie Year! And this was during the Ewing/Robinson/Dream/Shaq era. You think Thabeet can even do that against these watered down big men, let alone in the early-90s? Thabeet cant even handle Blair, lol.
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Man, Oohah I'm not trying to hear none of that.

In Mutombo's rookie year he averaged almost 17pts per game and had about 12 and a half boards and gang of blocks. Rookie Year! And this was during the Ewing/Robinson/Dream/Shaq era. You think Thabeet can even do that against these watered down big men, let alone in the early-90s? Thabeet cant even handle Blair, lol.

I don't know what Thabeet will average but I do know that Mutumbo was 26 coming into the league adn Thabeet is a legit 22. Im looking for 13-14 points 10 rebounds 4 blocks
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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by sebstar:

Man, Oohah I'm not trying to hear none of that.

In Mutombo's rookie year he averaged almost 17pts per game and had about 12 and a half boards and gang of blocks. Rookie Year! And this was during the Ewing/Robinson/Dream/Shaq era. You think Thabeet can even do that against these watered down big men, let alone in the early-90s? Thabeet cant even handle Blair, lol.

I don't know what Thabeet will average but I do know that Mutumbo was 26 coming into the league adn Thabeet is a legit 22. Im looking for 13-14 points 10 rebounds 4 blocks

I doubt Thabeet gets that kind of time or pts per game.

I bet his first year, he is probably something like an 8 / 8 /2. Decent numbers.
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Posted by JesseDark:

If the Knicks were playing in the 2nd round of the playoffs against either Orlando or Boston who would've helped more. Stephen Curry or a big?
IMHO we gotta get something in the middle that can run and block shots. This is such a critical draft piece - I don't want them to f it up.

And this is exactly what I mean when talking about 2010 being a joke.

Look at the teams left playing - they are all physically overpowering teams. Howard, LeBron, Bynum, Yao, Perkins, KG, et al - all big men that have a major impact who would make Lee look smaller than he is.
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5/18/2009  12:17 PM
I admit to not watching Mullens play and am only going on what I've read. What scares me about him is that he wasn't the best player on his team and they couldn't get past Siena in the tournament. If we do get him would give him the PT to develop?
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Posted by djsunyc:

donnie walsh wants a shot blocking center for the roster.
d'antoni already talked about point guard.

if they win the lotto, they will take rubio or thabeet (depending if they pick 1, 2, or 3) and they will take curry at 8. i think it's pretty much set.

I dont see them taking Thabeet.

Bring back dee-fense
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5/18/2009  12:39 PM
Did Mutumbo become a championship center when I was sleeping or something?
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Did Mutumbo become a championship center when I was sleeping or something?

I dont know about championship, First Ballot HOF center but he was a pretty damn good one for a number of years.

What the hell is Thabeet going to do? Thats the question.
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5/18/2009  1:31 PM
Posted by JesseDark:

I admit to not watching Mullens play and am only going on what I've read. What scares me about him is that he wasn't the best player on his team and they couldn't get past Siena in the tournament. If we do get him would give him the PT to develop?
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Posted by djsunyc:

donnie walsh wants a shot blocking center for the roster.
d'antoni already talked about point guard.

if they win the lotto, they will take rubio or thabeet (depending if they pick 1, 2, or 3) and they will take curry at 8. i think it's pretty much set.

I dont see them taking Thabeet.

That happens a lot where the big man is not the best player on the team in year 1. Look at Aldrich's jump from year 1 to 2 for example--same for Thabeet. IF Aldrich came out he might be the third pick in the draft this year and almost a lock for top 5.
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