I have been watching the Rockets and Lakers and noticed that Scola is a damn good player. I began to think if Lee is better than Scola and so far I think Scola is the better player. Scola plays hard nosed defense Lee well doesn't. Scola is a throw back type player who brings toughness to a team, Lee doesn't. Scola can hit a jumper and so can Lee but Scola is a better back to the basket player. That is why I wouldn't offer Lee a contract he doesn't bring the necessary intangibles of a tough player that matters in the playoffs. I'm not gonna go all crazy on Lee's numbers he had a nce season on a piss ass team. Bright spot on a bad team. If Lee played defense like Scola I bet the Knicks win a lot more games. Before anyone says that Lee played out of position so did Scola for a good portion of the season and will probably do more of that now that Ming is done for the playoffs.

Posted by Vmart:

I have been watching the Rockets and Lakers and noticed that Scola is a damn good player. I began to think if Lee is better than Scola and so far I think Scola is the better player. Scola plays hard nosed defense Lee well doesn't. Scola is a throw back type player who brings toughness to a team, Lee doesn't. Scola can hit a jumper and so can Lee but Scola is a better back to the basket player. That is why I wouldn't offer Lee a contract he doesn't bring the necessary intangibles of a tough player that matters in the playoffs. I'm not gonna go all crazy on Lee's numbers he had a nce season on a piss ass team. Bright spot on a bad team. If Lee played defense like Scola I bet the Knicks win a lot more games. Before anyone says that Lee played out of position so did Scola for a good portion of the season and will probably do more of that now that Ming is done for the playoffs.

Well, I think you know what my answer is.

Pretty sure he wont suck if he plays defense and plays tough and not like Mr. Softy.

It's not a "everything's better on the other side" attitude. It's just the truth. Lee isn't that good.

Scola showed me a lot in the Olympics, if I remember correctly- until then I had not looked at him seriously.

He can do a lot of things that Lee can do, plus he adds a defensive toughness/effort and probably has a better jumper (although Lee's has improved dramatically), yet he actually got fewer BPG than Lee. I also think that Lee is a better all around passer than Scola.

Pretty much a wash, IMO. Hopefully, if Lee remains with the Knicks, he will add defensive effort to his list of yearly improvements.

i think scola, scola is awesome, but he is 3 years older than lee if that means anything to anyone anywhere

Posted by Bonn1997:

Lee would be a 10/10 bench player on 55% shooting on a good team and a 6th man of the year candidate. He should get paid as such, which probably means slightly more than the MLE--maybe 6 years, $36 to 42 mil.

Second It. Very fair assessment.
The only problem is - this kind of players a very rare in today’s NBA. And if demand is bigger that supply the price tag goes up.
The dilemma is you want to have player like Lee on the team after you get your main stars, but to get them you need to use Lee or get read of him.
If Walsh can get the core in and still keep Lee than he will be a man, if not he will be another one GM who pass through this sad franchise.






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Posted by arkrud:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Lee would be a 10/10 bench player on 55% shooting on a good team and a 6th man of the year candidate. He should get paid as such, which probably means slightly more than the MLE--maybe 6 years, $36 to 42 mil.

Second It. Very fair assessment.
The only problem is - this kind of players a very rare in today’s NBA. And if demand is bigger that supply the price tag goes up.
The dilemma is you want to have player like Lee on the team after you get your main stars, but to get them you need to use Lee or get read of him.
If Walsh can get the core in and still keep Lee than he will be a man, if not he will be another one GM who pass through this sad franchise.






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Thanks but I think your post needs some more editing!

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Lee would be a 10/10 bench player on 55% shooting on a good team and a 6th man of the year candidate. He should get paid as such, which probably means slightly more than the MLE--maybe 6 years, $36 to 42 mil.

Second It. Very fair assessment.
The only problem is - this kind of players a very rare in today’s NBA. And if demand is bigger that supply the price tag goes up.
The dilemma is you want to have player like Lee on the team after you get your main stars, but to get them you need to use Lee or get read of him.
If Walsh can get the core in and still keep Lee than he will be a man, if not he will be another one GM who pass through this sad franchise.






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Why would Lee be a sixth man candidate for averaging 10-10, and no defense.

Playing defense is a requirement for 6th man of the year? Look at a list of previous winners!

i'd rather have Lee... i like the consistency on the boards & the finishing ability that Lee brings to the table... Scola's a gritty defender, true, but i think overall Lee's the better player... i definitely would expect to get back more in a trade for Lee than for Scola.

the money factor changes things a lot, i agree.

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by TMS:

the money factor changes things a lot, i agree.

Thing is I think Scola-while 4 years older-may be able to bring alot of the same numbers Lee brings in this system while adding some defense.

i think Scola's better suited to a halfcourt style game, but he'd cost less than Lee & bring some much needed frontcourt defense... he's not the rebounder or finisher around the basket that Lee is tho... dunno how much of an overall impact he'd make but i'd rather pay market value for Scola than market value for Lee because of our cap situation & what we're looking to do in 2010.