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VDesai
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5/7/2009  8:48 AM
Caught this off the Bloomberg wire:

Wire: BLOOMBERG News (BN) Date: 2009-05-07 12:40:06
Cablevision to Explore Spinoff of Madison Square Garden Unit


By Brad Skillman
May 7 (Bloomberg) -- Cablevision Systems Corp. said it’s
exploring a possible spinoff of its Madison Square Garden unit.



This could finally mean Jimmy Dolan not being in charge...
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5/7/2009  9:06 AM
wow... that's bigger news than the LeBron speculation - seriously
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5/7/2009  9:18 AM
Does this mean there is change in ownership? Jim Dolan finally bought into the cap space theory. I hope the new guys give Donnie till 2010 to sign his stars!
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5/7/2009  9:43 AM
Cuban.. give up those Mavs and come buy the Knicks!
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5/7/2009  9:48 AM
I wonder if theres a leader in the clubhouse to buy the MSG portion? Whoever does will have some serious coin.
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5/7/2009  10:03 AM
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BETHPAGE, N.Y. - Cablevision Systems Corp. says it recorded a profit in the first quarter, helped by growth in its core cable TV operations and the inclusion of revenue from the Long Island-based newspaper Newsday.

The company will also consider spinning off the Madison Square Garden sports arena.

Cablevision said Thursday it earned $20.2 million, or 7 cents per share, in the quarter that ended March 31. This compares with a loss of $31.6 million, or 11 cents per share, in the year-ago quarter.

Revenue rose 10 percent to $1.90 billion, and included revenue from the July purchase of Newsday. Last year, revenue totaled $1.72 billion.
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5/7/2009  10:06 AM
Maybe UK should get all the posters together and we can buy the Knicks lol too bad none of us are billionaires. It will be interesting to see what happens with this.
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5/7/2009  10:19 AM
more from td
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5/7/2009  10:27 AM
Bloomberg added some details:

Wire: BLOOMBERG News (BN) Date: 2009-05-07 14:05:59
Cablevision to Explore Madison Square Garden Spinoff (Update2)


(Adds analyst’s comment in fourth paragraph.)

By Kelly Riddell and Katie Hoffmann
May 7 (Bloomberg) -- Cablevision Systems Corp., the media
company controlled by the Dolan family, may spin off the Madison
Square Garden unit that runs the New York arena and the Knicks
basketball team, bowing to shareholder pressure.

The stock jumped 18 percent after Cablevision said its
board has authorized management to examine the move. The company
didn’t provide further details. Cablevision also posted first-
quarter profit that trailed analysts’ estimates.
The spinoff may value the unit at $3 billion and allow
Cablevision to focus on its more profitable cable-TV business
,
said Chris Marangi, an analyst Gabelli & Co. Investors
criticized the company last year for spending earnings from its
New York-area cable service on media properties instead of
investing them back into its main business or returning money to
shreholders.
“It clears the way for consolidation of the pure cable
assets,” said Gabelli, who is based in Rye, New York.
The stock gain may be a signal investors’ appetite for new
assets is improving. As recently as November, Cablevision Chief
Executive Officer James Dolan said the company was focused on
operations, not strategic alternatives, as the economy slumps.
That was a reversal from August, when he said the company would
explore asset sales.
Cablevision climbed $3.22 to $21.55 in New York Stock
Exchange trading at 10:03 a.m. The stock had added 8.8 percent
this year before today.

Fewer Arena Events

The Madison Square Garden unit, whose sales climbed 2.3
percent last quarter
, operates the arena next to New York’s Penn
Station, billed as “The World’s Most Famous Arena.” The
business also includes the Knicks, the Rangers hockey team, the
Radio City Music Hall and cable sports networks.
Cablevision and ITT Corp. bought Madison Square Garden from
Viacom Inc. for $1.08 billion in 1994. Less than three years
later, ITT sold its stake, along with stakes in the Knicks and
Rangers sports teams, to Cablevision for $650 million.
The business boosted sales to $271.3 million last quarter,
accounting for 14 percent of Cablevision’s total revenue. The
unit’s TV channels increased sales, while revenue from the
entertainment unit decreased because of fewer arena events. The
sports teams increased sales on ticket revenue. The unit’s
operating loss shrank to $2.2 million.
Net income amounted to $20.2 million, or 7 cents a share,
compared with a loss of $31.6 million, or 11 cents, a year
earlier, the Bethpage, New York-based company said. Excluding
some items, profit was 12 cents a share, compared with the 14-
cent average of estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

(Cablevision started a conference call at 10 a.m. New York
time to discuss results. To listen, go to
http://www.cablevision.com)
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5/7/2009  10:44 AM
Our Knicks no longer under the rule of Little Jimmy?

THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
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5/7/2009  10:50 AM
As I understand it, a spin-off doesn't necessarily mean the Dolan's will not own MSG... but, I imagine having the separate corporate structure in place would make it easier to make the sale once we sign Lebron and Wade (and the value of the franchise goes through the roof).
You know I gonna spin wit it
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5/7/2009  11:02 AM
If Cablevision planning to put MSG/Knicks/Rangers on sale they will spend NO money on this for a year or so.
This brings back the following:
1. Why to pay-off Eddy? - New owner will pay in 2010-11.
2. No need to sign Lee/Nate - let them go.
3. No need to spend on MLE, etc. why bother?
4. No cash for future picks, signings, etc.

So be prepared for slooooooooooowwwwwwwwww year.
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5/7/2009  11:11 AM
Posted by arkrud:

If Cablevision planning to put MSG/Knicks/Rangers on sale they will spend NO money on this for a year or so.
This brings back the following:
1. Why to pay-off Eddy? - New owner will pay in 2010-11.
2. No need to sign Lee/Nate - let them go.
3. No need to spend on MLE, etc. why bother?
4. No cash for future picks, signings, etc.

So be prepared for slooooooooooowwwwwwwwww year.

You increase the Knicks value exponentially though if it looks like there's a future.

2009 was going to be one of the worst years in franchise history anyway unless we really hit on our draft pick.

I think they'll just continue on the 2010 plan.

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5/7/2009  11:23 AM
Nobody get fooled by 2010. We all know how much Dolan is a moron and how little it takes for him to look like/be a moron. This is huge. We need a passionate owner to enter the picture. Ridding of Dolan would be one of the greatest days in franchise history.
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5/7/2009  11:25 AM
Posted by arkrud:

If Cablevision planning to put MSG/Knicks/Rangers on sale they will spend NO money on this for a year or so.
This brings back the following:
1. Why to pay-off Eddy? - New owner will pay in 2010-11.
2. No need to sign Lee/Nate - let them go.
3. No need to spend on MLE, etc. why bother?
4. No cash for future picks, signings, etc.

So be prepared for slooooooooooowwwwwwwwww year.

I just disagree. Without wondering whether they are really looking to sell, if there was an intent to sell the Knicks, its at that time when you want the business to look its best. For example, if you are selling your home, put a fresh coat of paint on it and sweep the floors. If you are about to sell your car, you don't drive it into a tree because you don't care...
You know I gonna spin wit it
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5/7/2009  11:38 AM
I doubt Dolan is selling but rather separating MSG from Cablevision so that anything bad on MSG's part does not show up on CV's reports.

As to MSG I think it was valued at 1.3B in 2006(?). It's MSG, the Knicks, Rangers, Ringling Bros Circus, Boxing at MSG, and any other annual event like Disney on Ice.

Dolan consolidated everything that happens at MSG into one conglomerate.

So it is one entity. Everything that happens under that roof is one big company that is sold as a whole....if it is sold.

It is an awfully big price tag for any prospective buyer and you know the Dolans will add a few hundred million to the price tag.
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5/7/2009  11:53 AM
Posted by Cosmic:

I doubt Dolan is selling but rather separating MSG from Cablevision so that anything bad on MSG's part does not show up on CV's reports.

As to MSG I think it was valued at 1.3B in 2006(?). It's MSG, the Knicks, Rangers, Ringling Bros Circus, Boxing at MSG, and any other annual event like Disney on Ice.

Dolan consolidated everything that happens at MSG into one conglomerate.

So it is one entity. Everything that happens under that roof is one big company that is sold as a whole....if it is sold.

It is an awfully big price tag for any prospective buyer and you know the Dolans will add a few hundred million to the price tag.

If you read my post above, the Gabelli guy valued the unit at $3 billion
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5/7/2009  11:56 AM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by Cosmic:

I doubt Dolan is selling but rather separating MSG from Cablevision so that anything bad on MSG's part does not show up on CV's reports.

As to MSG I think it was valued at 1.3B in 2006(?). It's MSG, the Knicks, Rangers, Ringling Bros Circus, Boxing at MSG, and any other annual event like Disney on Ice.

Dolan consolidated everything that happens at MSG into one conglomerate.

So it is one entity. Everything that happens under that roof is one big company that is sold as a whole....if it is sold.

It is an awfully big price tag for any prospective buyer and you know the Dolans will add a few hundred million to the price tag.

If you read my post above, the Gabelli guy valued the unit at $3 billion

Holy &*(#&$(*&#@$(^#($^(#$^@#$

Well, it does include the Liberty LOL... Apparently as pointed out to me by someone also Radio City Music Hall is included.

Damn Dolan Empire...
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5/7/2009  2:02 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by arkrud:

If Cablevision planning to put MSG/Knicks/Rangers on sale they will spend NO money on this for a year or so.
This brings back the following:
1. Why to pay-off Eddy? - New owner will pay in 2010-11.
2. No need to sign Lee/Nate - let them go.
3. No need to spend on MLE, etc. why bother?
4. No cash for future picks, signings, etc.

So be prepared for slooooooooooowwwwwwwwww year.

I just disagree. Without wondering whether they are really looking to sell, if there was an intent to sell the Knicks, its at that time when you want the business to look its best. For example, if you are selling your home, put a fresh coat of paint on it and sweep the floors. If you are about to sell your car, you don't drive it into a tree because you don't care...

What I did before selling my house is hired some contractor with bunch of Mexicans to fresh-paint some scratches on my walls and cover the rust on my water heater.
No one in clear mind will invest in something he wants to sell.
He will cut the cost to make it look more profitable and to make new owner think he can start from clean.



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5/7/2009  2:03 PM
EVERYONE SWITCH TO CABLEVISION
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Cablevision may spinoff MSG...

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