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K22
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4/15/2009  12:26 PM
From the Hahn Blog.
In alphabetical order (and only those under full guaranteed deals, so none of the 10-day guys -- Joe Crawford, Mouhamed Sene and Chris Hunter -- and also excluding Cuttino Mobley):

Wilson Chandler (14.4 ppg/$1.2M in 2009-10, $2.1M in 10-11) -- KEEP
Why: Very affordable young player who can play starter's minutes and should continue to get better. Need to get him connected with a workaholic veteran who will put him on the right path.

Eddy Curry (3 GP/$10.5M in 2009-10, $11.2M in 10-11) -- DUMP
Why: Saying all he needs to do is get into the best shape of his life is like saying all Rihanna has to do is leave Chris Brown. And the contract.

Chris Duhon (2.54 assist-to-turnover/$6M in 2009-10) -- KEEP
Why: One year left on the contract doesn't hurt and if you can bring in a veteran starter (say, Jason Kidd, for example) Duhon could be a solid backup. Maybe the fact that he's in a contract year will motivate him to be in better shape and stay in shape all year.

Danilo Gallinari (44.4 percent 3PT/$3M in 2009-10, $3.3M in 10-11, $4.1M in 11-12) -- KEEP
Why: If and when he finally gets healthy from the back issues -- we'll say if -- he would be the best returning player.

Al Harrington (20.9 ppg/$10M in 2009-10) -- KEEP
Why: He's a scorer for three quarters and would be valuable off the bench, as long as he can accept that role. In a contract year, however, he might not. But his expiring contract could have value.

Larry Hughes (11 ppg/$13.6M in 2009-10) -- DUMP
Why: Could be a veteran to stash on the bench and bring in for scoring, but if you're depending on him to play a major role in the rotation next season things didn't go well at all this summer. He should be an expiring to trade.

Jared Jeffries (5.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg/$6.4M in 2009-10, $6.8M in 10-11) -- DUMP
Why: He's played well in the second half, but the contract is too expensive for the role he would play going forward. If he can be moved, you move him. But no rush, he could be helpful for one more season.

David Lee (64 double-doubles in 80 GP/Restricted Free Agent) -- KEEP
Why: Unless you can move him for a star-level talent, Lee is a foundation player that you want on your team to build around a superstar. David has to recognize the cap situation and decide if he prefers to be in New York or possibly take more money somewhere else.

Quentin Richardson (36.5 3PT/$8.7M in 2009-10) -- KEEP
Why: Won't have any value this summer, but as an expiring might be usable in a mid-season trade. And he could help off the bench in the meanwhile, because you have to expect him to want to come into camp trimmer and once again as a three-point shooting threat to earn himself another contract.

Nate Robinson (17.3 ppg off bench/Restricted Free Agent) -- DUMP
Why: His value may never be higher than it is right now. Yes, it's a risk to give up such a dynamo off the bench, but there are so many peripheral issues with his game -- focus, consistency, maturity -- that you have to consider all options. Of course if the market is weak and you can re-sign him for cheap (under $4M), that's another story.

Chris Wilcox (52.7 FG%/Unrestricted Free Agent) -- DUMP
Why: He'll get a decent offer from someone and would prefer it where he would get minutes.

I agree with most of these actually. Pretty funny diss on Curry too.
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4/15/2009  12:29 PM
Nothing to new with this article but Hahn has turned into a complete hack. It was nice to hear that Chandler is only behind Durant and fellow sophmore Danny Granger.
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4/15/2009  12:30 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Nothing to new with this article but Hahn has turned into a complete hack.

Well, don't forget who owns Newsday now.

[Edited by - K22 on 04-15-2009 12:31 PM]
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4/15/2009  12:35 PM
Posted by K22:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Nothing to new with this article but Hahn has turned into a complete hack.

Well, don't forget who owns Newsday now.

[Edited by - K22 on 04-15-2009 12:31 PM]

Yeah, I see his fans are starting to notice this as well. Berman has been going hard after him. D'Antoni fanboy, lol. All these guys are jokes.
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4/15/2009  12:38 PM
Whatever, I like Hahn. He's the only 'blogger' I read. I never read Tommy Dee or Marc Berman so I guess I can't really comment or compare them
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4/15/2009  12:43 PM
You keep Chandler because he is young and cheap, Gallo because the book is not yet written on him, Lee if he comes cheap, Nate if he comes real cheap. Everyone else is a dump (in line with 2010) because they have proven to be bad players one way or another. If Harrington, Q, Duhon, Hughes are retained this summer because they are 2010s that is a different story. None of them are keepers.

We're pretty much right where I wanted Walsh to have us after some time: Torn down with a handful of young players merely auditioning for roles on the 2010 and beyond roster.

There are no true "keepers" in the real NBA sense of the word on a perennial 23-33 win team.
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4/15/2009  12:51 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Yeah, I see his fans are starting to notice this as well. Berman has been going hard after him. D'Antoni fanboy, lol. All these guys are jokes.

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4/15/2009  12:53 PM
Posted by K22:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Yeah, I see his fans are starting to notice this as well. Berman has been going hard after him. D'Antoni fanboy, lol. All these guys are jokes.


Yeah. I think's that Berman's point. Hahn turned into a fanboy himself with Walsh, MDA and Gallo.

Tommy Dee is a joke. 6 blog spots a day to spit out the same information that he could have just say in one that he got from other columns.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 04-15-2009 12:58 PM]
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4/15/2009  1:12 PM
Rather than look at it in terms of who I look to keep / dump, I see it as, "who am I willing to part with, if the right deal comes along?"

Thinking that way, the only players I really see on this team as untouchable are Gallinari and maybe Chandler.

Not that I'm saying Gallo is the best player on the team, only that until we know what we have on our hands with him, we should hold on to him.

With Chandler, I can see him getting much better, but if the right deal comes along for a major peice of the puzzle, I might be willing to send him packing.

Everything depends on the deal we get offered and what we would get in return
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4/15/2009  5:40 PM
I really don't see what the big deal is with Hahn's take on things. He's genuine in his likes and dislikes of guys like Gallo and Chandler. His assessments were very honest and true. What is it in what Hahn wrote that would classify him as a fanboy?

He even suggests that a guy like Lee is tradeable and pretty much ANY current Knick if the right deal is offered.
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4/15/2009  5:51 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I really don't see what the big deal is with Hahn's take on things. He's genuine in his likes and dislikes of guys like Gallo and Chandler. His assessments were very honest and true. What is it in what Hahn wrote that would classify him as a fanboy?

He even suggests that a guy like Lee is tradeable and pretty much ANY current Knick if the right deal is offered.

Its weird. He didnt express anything in that article that hasnt been said a million times here. Although I disagree with his Nate take, at least he had solid reasoning and acknowledged his skill which is more than I can say about a lot of the anti-Nate brigade around here.

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4/15/2009  5:56 PM
Posted by sebstar:

Its weird. He didnt express anything in that article that hasnt been said a million times here. Although I disagree with his Nate take, at least he had solid reasoning and acknowledged his skill which is more than I can say about a lot of the anti-Nate brigade around here.

actually alot of the Nate criticizers on this board have also acknowledged Nate's skill, but some fans seem a bit overly sensitive to any negatives thrown at any of our players, reasonable or not... u have to admit that much.
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4/15/2009  6:03 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by sebstar:

Its weird. He didnt express anything in that article that hasnt been said a million times here. Although I disagree with his Nate take, at least he had solid reasoning and acknowledged his skill which is more than I can say about a lot of the anti-Nate brigade around here.


actually alot of the Nate criticizers on this board have also acknowledged Nate's skill, but some fans seem a bit overly sensitive to any negatives thrown at any of our players, reasonable or not... u have to admit that much.


To each his own, but the amount of hate in relation to his production isnt proportional, IMO.

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4/15/2009  6:40 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I really don't see what the big deal is with Hahn's take on things. He's genuine in his likes and dislikes of guys like Gallo and Chandler. His assessments were very honest and true. What is it in what Hahn wrote that would classify him as a fanboy?

He even suggests that a guy like Lee is tradeable and pretty much ANY current Knick if the right deal is offered.

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4/15/2009  7:03 PM
There's no way nate and lee gets resign, one will be use along with our pick to get rid of curry or jeffries. Q may also be a trading chip.
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4/15/2009  7:34 PM
Last night on TNT Nate was mentioned quite prominently as a 6th man candidate. Nate has some issues, but his talent is undeniable. I would have no problem with keeping him if it didn't hinder our efforts to build this team into a contender. Of course that's the tough part.
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4/15/2009  8:19 PM
Dump Al. He will never take a bench role and he is too much of a ball hog, like Jamal and Bo, to be any use to us in the future.
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4/15/2009  11:10 PM
Keep Chandler, Gallo and this years pick and dump everyone else.
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4/15/2009  11:18 PM
Keep everybody and let Coach D and his staff prove to world that they are the best coaches in the league. Put the pressure on the coaching staff like they want the pressure on the players. If you're the best shouldn't you want to try and prove it?
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4/15/2009  11:20 PM
Keep - Saer Sene if he impresses in Summer League.
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