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Im surprised more people dont like Tyreke Evans?
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BRIGGS
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4/5/2009  1:18 PM
To me he is the second best guy in the draft and could really help the Knicks from day 1 from the lead guard position. Most people dont even talk about him. This guy is made for this tempo and has played PG throughout HS and a very solid first year on a team that won 30 in a row. Look at the defensive possibilities too with him guarding opposing one's. I look at 3 guys with real star like potential but Evans is easily 2. I wonder if he will fall with teams thinking that he is only an average SG--what I see is a tremendous mismatch PG. He needs a few tweaks but I really think he can be one helluva player and with that handle---and size--. How could these mock drafts have him 25--My gosh. I hope that other teams don't like him as much and Walsh can see the light on this kid.
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4/5/2009  1:41 PM
What mock draft has Evans at 25?
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4/5/2009  1:45 PM
He reminds me a lot of Larry Hughes.
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4/5/2009  2:07 PM
The Larry Hughes comparison isn't wrong, but if you could hit the reset button on Larry Hughes' career you would take him on your team

If you could develop a young Hughes and teach him shot selection then you'd have yourself a heckuva #8 pick.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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4/5/2009  2:58 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

To me he is the second best guy in the draft and could really help the Knicks from day 1 from the lead guard position. Most people dont even talk about him. This guy is made for this tempo and has played PG throughout HS and a very solid first year on a team that won 30 in a row. Look at the defensive possibilities too with him guarding opposing one's. I look at 3 guys with real star like potential but Evans is easily 2. I wonder if he will fall with teams thinking that he is only an average SG--what I see is a tremendous mismatch PG. He needs a few tweaks but I really think he can be one helluva player and with that handle---and size--. How could these mock drafts have him 25--My gosh. I hope that other teams don't like him as much and Walsh can see the light on this kid.


He's a combo of a mini Magic Johnson and Michael Ray Richardson.

Big, fast, powerful, finishes at the rim, rebounds and YES he is unselfish.
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4/5/2009  3:10 PM
Posted by VDesai:

He reminds me a lot of Larry Hughes.

I don't remember Larry Hughes winning 26 straight games as the lead guard at St Louis. Tyreke is physically much more put together with better handle. I kind of viewed that last game where they really played up tempo basketball as a real sample of what he can do in that system. As long as he is willing to find the open man and work on his jumpshot[which looks good from the torso up] this kid is going to be a big time player. Im close on Derozan and Evans I would really have to think about it. Too bad we cant get both:)
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4/5/2009  3:45 PM
You can't compare the Memphis and St. Louis programs in terms of talent. Tyreke is more well built, but they have a similarity in terms of game. I don't see him as a full time PG and if he's asked to do that early on in his career he could struggle to truly find his niche a la Hughes. I'm also not in love with his shot selection. There is no doubt the talent is there. Hughes was an extremely good prospect and has had a reasonably succesful NBA career with some solid seasons. Evans should do the same- but I don't know that he'll ever be a superstar and could have the same struggles.
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4/5/2009  4:55 PM
Micheal Ray Richardson sounds right as far as the way he looks out there on the floor.

I'm on the fence like those comparing him to Hughes. I can't call this kid...maybe he should stay another year in school. I mean....who am I to talk since I was dead wrong on Eric Gordon?, lol....
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4/5/2009  5:06 PM
Tyreke Evans is good but he's no NBA PG. I think a lot of the Larry Hughes comparisons are pretty good.
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4/5/2009  5:08 PM
Michael Ray is a good call actually. I keep saying that if you could bring Evans in and just have him duplicate what Marty did for those five games a few years back as a big PG, that's how you'd want him to play.

I think that Donnie and MikeD will want more of a pure passer, but defense is going to be a priority as well.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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4/6/2009  12:00 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Tyreke Evans is good but he's no NBA PG. I think a lot of the Larry Hughes comparisons are pretty good.

I think he can definitely play NBA PG--he has great upside as a PG. Lets hope that no one is that enamored with him and he falls a bit.
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4/6/2009  12:24 AM
He's a combo guard. His dribble is a little high, and his shot release has a bit of a windup.. but I'd take him in a second. Bernard King?
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4/6/2009  1:43 AM
With his strength & handle at that height there's a lot to like with Evans, but the funky leg kick and fade on every release and the lousy shooting % from a short college 3 concerns me a little. Put that together with the so-so FT shooting and the fact that he didn't play well against some top teams this year and we have some question marks... I like the Jamal Crawford comparison and to be honest, I see nothing to guarantee me Evans will be better or even as good. By comparison, they're about the same size-wise with an edge to Evans in the strength dept., they look to be about the same handling the ball - both have an above average handle, Evans may be a little better equipped at taking it to the rim and absorbing contact (but he's not a great FT shooter and that's important because he'll get to the line) whereas Craw's a better overall scorer with the better mid-range and deep game (Jamal's not a pure shooter by any means but his mechanics certainly looks better than this kid's). Craw's a much better FT shooter. Neither guy's a pure playmaker but Craw might possess better instincts as a scoring 2-guard. Defensively Evans looks decent and might be better than Crawford but that's really not saying too much. In the end we might be looking at a poor man's Jamal Crawford. Not trying to rip this kid, I'm just trying to be objective - he's got potential and some pluses, but he's got some question marks as well. Right now if you ask me, he looks like a tweener that might never be exceptional at either backcourt position. He might not be ready for the NBA yet.

Jeff Teague looks more advanced to me and part of that comes with playing the one extra year in college. He doesn't have this kid's height, but he's got plenty of spring and hops to make up the difference - Teague looks to dunk the ball on guys when the opportunity presents itself and I've seen him get up high to even blocks some shots too. Teague's just as explosive if not more so, has as good a handle (I've see Teague do some things with the ball that remind me of Allen Iverson) and he's a better 3 pt. shooter and FT shooter. Teague tends to try and get a little too fancy passing the ball resulting in some ugly turnovers from time to time but I think he'll get even better as a playmaker as he matures and learns how to balance being a scoring option himself and getting the rest of his teammates involved. If we're looking at the top PGs in this draft, I like Jeff Teague a little more than Evans myself.

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4/6/2009  9:45 AM
The Crawford comparisons are lost on me. If Crawford had the desire to get into the paint like Evans, and defended like Evans, he would be an All-Star and Chicago never would have let him go. I hope his floor is an effective Marty Collins and his ceiling is Michael Ray.

The key with Evans is can he play point, and MikeD can make that decision.

I can't get a read on Teague because all of the games I saw him play were in the second half of this season and he looked terrible in those games.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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4/6/2009  11:42 AM
Briggs the things Larry Hughes did at SLU arent comparable to what Evans did. Hughes was walking into Freedom Hall and Marquette and dropping 40 on people. He carried a team by himself to the tourney and actually got a win until they got beat by Kentucky. He had no talent and carried a team for the whole year.
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4/6/2009  12:29 PM
Posted by King1:

Briggs the things Larry Hughes did at SLU arent comparable to what Evans did. Hughes was walking into Freedom Hall and Marquette and dropping 40 on people. He carried a team by himself to the tourney and actually got a win until they got beat by Kentucky. He had no talent and carried a team for the whole year.

Larry Hughes and Jamal Crawford do not have nearly the muscular physique coming out of college. My bet is Evans is 30 pounds heavier than those guys coming out of school. This guy goes through traffic using his strength--Hughes and Crawford are guys who shy away from it. Also they used Evans as the lead guard--he did not play off the ball.
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4/6/2009  12:30 PM
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Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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4/6/2009  12:52 PM
Magic Johnson? Did somebody realy make that comp?
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4/6/2009  12:53 PM
I'm thinking no future at PG, but a decent one at SG. Corey Maggete type.
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4/6/2009  12:55 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by King1:

Briggs the things Larry Hughes did at SLU arent comparable to what Evans did. Hughes was walking into Freedom Hall and Marquette and dropping 40 on people. He carried a team by himself to the tourney and actually got a win until they got beat by Kentucky. He had no talent and carried a team for the whole year.

Larry Hughes and Jamal Crawford do not have nearly the muscular physique coming out of college. My bet is Evans is 30 pounds heavier than those guys coming out of school. This guy goes through traffic using his strength--Hughes and Crawford are guys who shy away from it. Also they used Evans as the lead guard--he did not play off the ball.

What's the difference between Evans and Marbury besides height and how's the defense?

I also don't trust him with a suspect jumpshot. I want my lotto pick to have a J if we're grabbing a guard, whether it's a 1 or a 2.
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Im surprised more people dont like Tyreke Evans?

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