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fishmike
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3/27/2009  9:05 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/ncaa/mens-tournament/03/26/mullens.ap/index.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- B.J. Mullens is the latest "one then done" at Ohio State.

The 7-foot Ohio State freshman said Thursday he would declare himself available for the NBA draft.

Mullens is the fifth Buckeyes player in the last three seasons to leave after playing one season.

The Columbus-area native came off the bench for 8.8 points and 4.7 rebounds a game. He shot 64 percent from the field to set a school freshman record. He started just two of the 33 games this past season for the Buckeyes, who lost to Siena in the first round of the NCAA tournament.

After Ohio State went 35-4 and lost in the national championship game two years ago, freshmen Greg Oden, Mike Conley Jr. and Daequan Cook declared for the draft. All were taken in the first round.

Last season, 7-0 freshman Kosta Koufos was taken by Utah
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3/27/2009  9:20 AM
saw that, posted it into the "my 1-10" thread
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Posted by JohnWallace44:

saw that, posted it into the "my 1-10" thread
which isnt going to get the job done. You should know by now that this is going to require a dedicated thread.

Usuaully the progression is:
BJ Mullens is a very interesting player
We dont have anything on the roster like BJ Mullens
BJ Mullens can anchor the frontcourt for the next decade
If the draft was today we would be CRAZY not to take this guy (after you open the thread it says 'BJ Mullens')
Knicks arent going to take BJ Mullens and it will set them back 5 years
How does this management sleep at night (after passing on BJ Mullens)

And thats just the first week
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3/27/2009  10:07 AM
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3/27/2009  10:26 AM
Yes I do think we should get a second first round pick the way Charlotte last year did in the 18-25 range and take him for the long term. I think it would be a great long term move for a team void of any size.
I would like to start stockpiling a couple of guys who have size who I believe will have a future in this league.
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3/27/2009  10:40 AM
Briggs, so you're thinking Derozan and Mullens?

Couldn't complain about that if it happened.

Duhon - Derozan - Chandler - Gallo - Mullens

Maybe pick up a backup point like Jerrells in the 2nd round
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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3/27/2009  10:43 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Yes I do think we should get a second first round pick the way Charlotte last year did in the 18-25 range and take him for the long term. I think it would be a great long term move for a team void of any size.
I would like to start stockpiling a couple of guys who have size who I believe will have a future in this league.

would you give up Nate and/or Lee to get the pick for Mullens? I am thinking I may risk it.
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3/27/2009  10:50 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Yes I do think we should get a second first round pick the way Charlotte last year did in the 18-25 range and take him for the long term. I think it would be a great long term move for a team void of any size.
I would like to start stockpiling a couple of guys who have size who I believe will have a future in this league.
He would be a great pick if we could get him later in the first round through some kind of trade.

Give him the heart and effort of Blair or Griffin and he would be a monster, and a perfect fit on the Knicks. With his athletic ability there should be nothing keeping him from being a Camby type player on D.

Still, he could use another year in school, and he needs to develop a couple of auto pilot signature moves that make use of his physical ability.



By the way, the guy Mullens replaced, Koufos, was sent down to the DL yesterday.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 03-27-2009 10:52 AM]
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3/27/2009  10:54 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Yes I do think we should get a second first round pick the way Charlotte last year did in the 18-25 range and take him for the long term. I think it would be a great long term move for a team void of any size.
I would like to start stockpiling a couple of guys who have size who I believe will have a future in this league.

would you give up Nate and/or Lee to get the pick for Mullens? I am thinking I may risk it.

I wish we could deal the #9, Lee and Nate for OKC's #5 and #23 picks (you'd take Wilkins and Watson back to match $)

not sure if that's realistic
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3/27/2009  11:05 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Yes I do think we should get a second first round pick the way Charlotte last year did in the 18-25 range and take him for the long term. I think it would be a great long term move for a team void of any size.
I would like to start stockpiling a couple of guys who have size who I believe will have a future in this league.

would you give up Nate and/or Lee to get the pick for Mullens? I am thinking I may risk it.

I have to wonder if our situation warrants using assets to make this a 2-3 player draft if possible. We need salary restricted players and its obvious that we are not going anywhere until atleast 2010.

If I could pick up another high pick where I could swipe Evans either Derozan or Jordan Hill and Mullens using our pick Nate and Lee I would do it.
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3/27/2009  11:26 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Yes I do think we should get a second first round pick the way Charlotte last year did in the 18-25 range and take him for the long term. I think it would be a great long term move for a team void of any size.
I would like to start stockpiling a couple of guys who have size who I believe will have a future in this league.

would you give up Nate and/or Lee to get the pick for Mullens? I am thinking I may risk it.

I have to wonder if our situation warrants using assets to make this a 2-3 player draft if possible. We need salary restricted players and its obvious that we are not going anywhere until atleast 2010.

If I could pick up another high pick where I could swipe Evans either Derozan or Jordan Hill and Mullens using our pick Nate and Lee I would do it. Am I asking for too much



Let say for example

Pick 7 David Lee and cash to move up to get Evans

Nate Robinson a Future 1 to get Derozan

Cash to get Mullens

OK it's not happening unless the stars align in a rare occurence--we wont get all 3 but I think getting Evans and Mullens is very plausible.
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3/27/2009  11:36 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Yes I do think we should get a second first round pick the way Charlotte last year did in the 18-25 range and take him for the long term. I think it would be a great long term move for a team void of any size.
I would like to start stockpiling a couple of guys who have size who I believe will have a future in this league.

would you give up Nate and/or Lee to get the pick for Mullens? I am thinking I may risk it.

I have to wonder if our situation warrants using assets to make this a 2-3 player draft if possible. We need salary restricted players and its obvious that we are not going anywhere until atleast 2010.

If I could pick up another high pick where I could swipe Evans either Derozan or Jordan Hill and Mullens using our pick Nate and Lee I would do it.

They will be shopping Nate around, IMO. I think MDA is a bit tired of him, even though he understands how important he has been to the team this year. He knows that Nate may never be able to become a PG in our system, and MDA/Walsh have made comments about his size for the SG position on numerous occasions.

His value as a player may never be higher than it is now, but what teams ahead of us in the draft would be willing to trade their 1 for a guy whose rookie contract is almost over?
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3/27/2009  11:49 AM
Posted by Paladin55:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Yes I do think we should get a second first round pick the way Charlotte last year did in the 18-25 range and take him for the long term. I think it would be a great long term move for a team void of any size.
I would like to start stockpiling a couple of guys who have size who I believe will have a future in this league.

would you give up Nate and/or Lee to get the pick for Mullens? I am thinking I may risk it.

I have to wonder if our situation warrants using assets to make this a 2-3 player draft if possible. We need salary restricted players and its obvious that we are not going anywhere until atleast 2010.

If I could pick up another high pick where I could swipe Evans either Derozan or Jordan Hill and Mullens using our pick Nate and Lee I would do it.

They will be shopping Nate around, IMO. I think MDA is a bit tired of him, even though he understands how important he has been to the team this year. He knows that Nate may never be able to become a PG in our system, and MDA/Walsh have made comments about his size for the SG position on numerous occasions.

His value as a player may never be higher than it is now, but what teams ahead of us in the draft would be willing to trade their 1 for a guy whose rookie contract is almost over?

Im just looking at it this way

is David Lee and pick 7 worth pick 2-4?
Is Nate and a future 1 worth a 9-12 pick?

Will there be teams who want out of this draft for the cash? I think more than 1.
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3/27/2009  11:50 AM
It would be tough to give away a future #1 since we don't have one next year.
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3/27/2009  11:51 AM
all I know is that the Knicks better use cash to buy an extra pick if it's out there.
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3/27/2009  11:58 AM
evan turner's staying.
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3/27/2009  12:07 PM
Maybe the Knicks can give Evans a promise if he does not work out for anyone else. That guarantees him a lottery pick. From there we can work other things if we have him in the bag. It could be very attractive for Evans.

Can Lee Nate and cash get Derozan and Mullens?
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3/27/2009  12:11 PM
Evans doesn't need to work out for anyone.

I would do Lee/Nate/#9 for #5/#24/Watson/Wilkins - I don't know if that works out for OKC or if that's enough salary for Lee/Nate to sign for.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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3/27/2009  1:06 PM
Posted by martin:

all I know is that the Knicks better use cash to buy an extra pick if it's out there.

I've got to believe that we could buy the following picks - each is a second pick of the team

Minnesota's @ 18 & 28
OKC @ 25
Sacramento @ 26
Memphis @ 27

Don't know about Minny & OKC- but I know Sacramento is hurting for cash (one good thing Madeoff did!).

Additionally- given the above scenario, we ought to be able to move up in the draft to one of their picks.

Best chance to move up is if Isiah gets brought in to the Clippers!
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3/27/2009  1:28 PM
uhhh....can we even trade lee or nate before/during/right after the draft since they will be free-agents?

i believe any such deals would have to take place after the draft, (july 1st?) during the free-agent period, with a sign-and-trade.

other players can be moved, but not upcoming free-agents, right?

[Edited by - PresIke on 03-27-2009 1:28 PM]
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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