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Who Has Done The Best Job As The Knicks Coach In Recent Years? Wilkens, Herb, Magoo, Isiah's first year, Or Mike D'Antoni
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BigC
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3/25/2009  9:01 PM
Which coach has done the best job as the Knicks coach in recent years?

1. Herb Williams
2. Lenny Wilkens
3. Isiah's First year when Curry played good
4. Mike D'Antoni
5. Larry Brown aka Mr. Magoo
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3/25/2009  9:10 PM
Lenny Wilkins. He's a good, not great coach but he had the Knicks overachieving like hell and was really a steadying force for the organization. Zeke messed up by pushing him out when he did. I'm sure D'Antoni will make his mark when all is said and done.
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3/25/2009  9:13 PM
Don Chaney was better then all of them. After McDyess went down he got that team to win 37 games with Eisley and Ward as PGs and a frontcourt of Othella Harrington, Spoon and Kurt Thomas. Have we won 37 games since that team?
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3/25/2009  9:16 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Don Chaney was better then all of them. After McDyess went down he got that team to win 37 games with Eisley and Ward as PGs and a frontcourt of Othella Harrington, Spoon and Kurt Thomas. Have we won 37 games since that team?

No front court whatsoever. Kurt Thomas was having a lousy year from what I remember and Spoon was our best frontcourt player. Spree was beginning his downfall as well. Horrible talent yet they pushed the limit and they were in the playoff chase. It's amazing that they'd beat the team we have now.
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3/25/2009  9:19 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Don Chaney was better then all of them. After McDyess went down he got that team to win 37 games with Eisley and Ward as PGs and a frontcourt of Othella Harrington, Spoon and Kurt Thomas. Have we won 37 games since that team?

Yeah. The year Lenny went to the playoffs with the Knicks. Lenny won 39 games.


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3/25/2009  9:25 PM
this year has been the best coached

you can actually see little wrinkles being added here and there

team's just lousy
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3/25/2009  9:29 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

this year has been the best coached

you can actually see little wrinkles being added here and there

team's just lousy

Can you expand on that? What are some examples of coaching that you're talking about?
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3/25/2009  9:33 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Don Chaney was better then all of them. After McDyess went down he got that team to win 37 games with Eisley and Ward as PGs and a frontcourt of Othella Harrington, Spoon and Kurt Thomas. Have we won 37 games since that team?

Damn it's seems like forever since that team was on the court but with that line-up Don Chaney should have been given Coach of the Decade for winning that many games.
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3/25/2009  9:35 PM
The way we played when we had a full squad was the best in years.

The adjustments that MikeD has made to increasingly bad talent has been admirable.

The evolution of different types of pick and roll plays with Lee and Duhon when they were both healthy.

The Celts game when we still had players.

Jeffries has almost looked useful.

There's just not enough there to manufacture a winning record.
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3/25/2009  9:37 PM
Here are the records

Don Chaney 37 wins
Lenny Wilkens 39 wins
Herb Williams 33 wins
Magoo 23 wins
Isiah's first year 33 wins
Mike D 32?33? 34?
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Posted by bitty41:
Posted by fishmike:

Don Chaney was better then all of them. After McDyess went down he got that team to win 37 games with Eisley and Ward as PGs and a frontcourt of Othella Harrington, Spoon and Kurt Thomas. Have we won 37 games since that team?

Damn it's seems like forever since that team was on the court but with that line-up Don Chaney should have been given Coach of the Decade for winning that many games.

Instead he was led out of MSG like a criminal.
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3/25/2009  9:56 PM
the KT/Steph Knicks had a go to play with that pick and roll

didn't seem so special at the time, but was the best thing we have had since then
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Posted by JohnWallace44:

the KT/Steph Knicks had a go to play with that pick and roll

didn't seem so special at the time, but was the best thing we have had since then

I think that Wilkens team was the best. That team was a dead team with Chaney. I remember going to those games. They would go into the 2nd half with leads only to blow them in the 4th. Everyone made a run on that team. First game of the 03-04 season, Orlando down by 13 in the 4th comes back to take them to overtime and then the win.
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3/25/2009  10:27 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Don Chaney was better then all of them. After McDyess went down he got that team to win 37 games with Eisley and Ward as PGs and a frontcourt of Othella Harrington, Spoon and Kurt Thomas. Have we won 37 games since that team?

I so wanted Tom Thibodeau to the coach that year, how the hell he hasn't got a head coaching job yet?
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3/25/2009  10:27 PM
Wilkens for now. D'Antoni is still a TBD.
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Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by fishmike:

Don Chaney was better then all of them. After McDyess went down he got that team to win 37 games with Eisley and Ward as PGs and a frontcourt of Othella Harrington, Spoon and Kurt Thomas. Have we won 37 games since that team?

I so wanted Tom Thibodeau to the coach that year, how the hell he hasn't got a head coaching job yet?

could be that Boston won't let him interview.
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3/25/2009  10:43 PM
i thought Marbury was the one running this team for the past few years
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3/25/2009  10:43 PM
I don't think we can really say for sure. Not a single one of those coaches really got a fair chance to coach this team, except maybe Isiah, seeing as how he constructed the team and didn't have to coach with himself watching from the stands. It's too early for D'Antoni. I think he gets a pass for this season, and possibly next.

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Posted by BasketballJones:

I don't think we can really say for sure. Not a single one of those coaches really got a fair chance to coach this team, except maybe Isiah, seeing as how he constructed the team and didn't have to coach with himself watching from the stands. It's too early for D'Antoni. I think he gets a pass for this season, and possibly next.

I can see this year but how can he get a pass the next one. D'Antoni isn't taking home scraps here. He is getting paid top dollar. No one is demanding that he goes out and win the championship but I think it is safe to say that Dolan expects more.
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3/25/2009  11:39 PM
Layden's leftovers + Marbury + Lenny Wilkens went +.500 and to the playoffs.

Even after Isiah pooped the bed with the KVH for TT/Nazr trade and the acquisition of Crawful... Lenny still did pretty good - and if I recall even given the obvious breakdown in chemistry with those additions we actually had injuries which led to us going from 16-13 (or was it 13-16?) to 17-22... and Lenny "retiring"

However Mike has done an exceptional job this year with what he has to work with. As Tripuka put it in the post game there are about 12 games the Knicks can look back at this year and say "Hey, we led those games and simply folded down the stretch....maybe with some experience some of those games go our way instead." (he said something to that effect).

He's right. Knicks do well in the draft, resolve a small issue or two over the summer, bring back largely the same crew, and I bet they are where Chicago is right now come this time in 2010.

Fine by me....it's all about 2010 and beyond anyway.
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