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Ira
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3/11/2009  10:52 PM
Some may say this is coming early. I never understood why the guy got all the grief he did here. When he came here, people were saying they loved the acquisition of Wilcox, but hated Hughes. Why would they hate a new Knick? Anyway, it took him a few games to get started, but the guy has put together a string of good games. He comes to play every night, always giving a good defensive effort, passing well and usually scoring well, too.
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3/11/2009  10:53 PM
a lot of people said he would look good in an up tempo system, too. i remember a lot of us plugged him in as the starting SG automatically and said he made us a playoff team...

i think he's happy to have a chance to play and he's showing it. he's been great. his defense is huge and his offense has been an unexpected bonus, but sadly necessary with duhon broken.
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3/11/2009  10:55 PM
Do yourself a favor and don't get too attached to Larry Hughes. He is what he has been with every other team that he's worn out his welcome with.
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3/11/2009  10:59 PM
Not I, blob, take no such crow. Here is why-- great defender, low-key enough and at a stage in his career where he must shape up or ship out, plus plus never as cancerous as Stephon M. and, also, very rusty from not playing in many days innnn addddition toooooo-- new system and team mates and rotation. But always knew he had it. We caught him in the (K)nick of time, and although I doubt he is here long-term, his presence and contributions so far and later in the Great Push to Playoff have already payed for what we gave up in his tradings. If I am not mistaken, he's got another year on the sheet? Yes?
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3/11/2009  11:11 PM
No one's going to hit their shots every night. But when a guy like Hughes plays very good d and passes the ball well, he still contributes even when his shooting is off. And when he's shooting is on, his all around game is a big plus for the team. Isles, I won't get too attached. Larry is not the second coming of Walt Frazier or Sprewell. But he is - especially considering what little we gave up for him - a step up for this team.
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3/11/2009  11:44 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Do yourself a favor and don't get too attached to Larry Hughes. He is what he has been with every other team that he's worn out his welcome with.

Not so fast islesfan...Larry never had a chance to play his game with Lebron the star in Cleveland and AI the star in Philly. He wasn't the 1st or 2nd option in Washington or GSW when he played there. Here he is getting minutes and he is showing what he can do. His perimter defense is the best we've seen here in a looooooooooooooong time.
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3/11/2009  11:48 PM
Posted by DaJoka:
Posted by islesfan:

Do yourself a favor and don't get too attached to Larry Hughes. He is what he has been with every other team that he's worn out his welcome with.

Not so fast islesfan...Larry never had a chance to play his game with Lebron the star in Cleveland and AI the star in Philly. He wasn't the 1st or 2nd option in Washington or GSW when he played there. Here he is getting minutes and he is showing what he can do. His perimter defense is the best we've seen here in a looooooooooooooong time.

He had his chances and blew them, he has though one good season in Washington and thats it. I agree to, he's got a long way to go to prove he's a keeper. Best we can hope for is he turns into a Ricky Davis, keep the production reasonable, off the court problems to a minimum and agree to a reasonable contract.
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3/11/2009  11:52 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Do yourself a favor and don't get too attached to Larry Hughes. He is what he has been with every other team that he's worn out his welcome with.

Correct. He is very Crawful-ish, yet, amazingly, he's what we wished Crawful would be. A guy who when he got cold would at least contribute on the defensive end. That's Larry.

Yet I did say give the guy a break, he had not played in over a month, and once he got the rust shaken off he could potentially contribute. Did I expect this big week from him? Of course not and I expect an equally disastrous week afterwards. Yet, he has done what was expected of him by the team, to step in and be our 2G for the next ~18 months. He's done it so I think he deserves at least a golf clap.
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3/12/2009  12:30 AM
the only thing "Crawful-ish" about Hughes is his shot selection... if u compare the way these guys play they're really nothing alike... Jamal is a much more creative scorer off the dribble & is a very good "bad shot" maker, Hughes does not have the handle that he does & he's much more of a deliberate mover on the court... he also plays pretty good defense & gets a ton of steals, something Jamal has never really embraced... both are streaky shooters but Jamal is probably more of an explosive scorer than Hughes is... when Jamal gets it going he's pretty much untouchable & can score on anyone while taking over a game all by himself... Hughes doesn't really have that in him IMHO... he either scores steadily throughout the game or he's completely off on his shot... he doesn't explode for points the way Jamal & Nate do.

all in all he was an excellent acquisition considering what we had to give up to get him... i have no idea what people thought they were getting when they called this guy a garbage player before he even played a game for us... the guy can score, he's proven that thoughout his 12 year NBA career.
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3/12/2009  12:42 AM
I'll eat some.

I said that he was another Steve Francis. He's not that. He's got a little better arc now.

He's an upper level defender. I didn't realize that.

I still don't like his offense though. He's streaky and its like you don't have a choice but to play him the whole game because he's "a volume shooter."
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3/12/2009  12:55 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'll eat some.

I said that he was another Steve Francis. He's not that. He's got a little better arc now.

He's an upper level defender. I didn't realize that.

I still don't like his offense though. He's streaky and its like you don't have a choice but to play him the whole game because he's "a volume shooter."

i think others have posted about it... the one thing Hughes did do this particular game, and which we all hope he continues to do when his outside shot is off, is take the ball to the rim and try to create for himself or others.
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3/12/2009  1:08 AM
Sometimes I think certain people don't watch the games.
The way people here talk about Larry Hughes is incredible.
Bad shots?
Correct me if I'm wrong but his position is shooting guard isn't it?
The game against the Bucks....who was it that single handedly kept us in the game in the 1st half? If it wasn't for Hughes we would've got blown out by the Bucks.
Respect that man would you?
Someone above said we should hope he turns into Ricky Davis. You need to lay off the whiskey. What off the court problems has Larry had to make you say something like that?
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3/12/2009  1:10 AM
yeah, I posted about it in my "Bring back Spree" thread

If he can drive and draw fouls, which no Knick over 6' does, then it makes up for a lot of his brick city.
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3/12/2009  2:55 AM
Posted by DaJoka:

Sometimes I think certain people don't watch the games.
The way people here talk about Larry Hughes is incredible.
Bad shots?
Correct me if I'm wrong but his position is shooting guard isn't it?
The game against the Bucks....who was it that single handedly kept us in the game in the 1st half? If it wasn't for Hughes we would've got blown out by the Bucks.
Respect that man would you?
Someone above said we should hope he turns into Ricky Davis. You need to lay off the whiskey. What off the court problems has Larry had to make you say something like that?
People are a trip.
HE IS THE BEST PERIMETER DEFENDER WE'VE HAD IN YEARS...EVEN SPREWELL!!!

Like i said 1 good season does not erase his entire career nor his fansite (http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/) I'm just waiting to see what he can bring before i call him the next spree, just like i'm gonna wait on Gallo before calling him the next Lampe or calling Lee the next Houston b4 he signs his contract. I dont see anything wrong with that.

And the Ricky Davis comparison is a good one. The dude had a rep as an out of control gunner and a headcase then but he got his act together when he was traded to the Celts, contributed nicely and rehablitated his image and his trade value. Thats what I want Hughes to be, whats wrong with that? Or am i setting my sights too low and i should expect all star numbers from him.
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3/12/2009  5:51 AM
I don't think he needs to be the next Spree to justify a trade in which we gave up Tim Thomas and JJ1. He'll have his better and worse games and certainly will never be a star or even above some criticism. But for a very small price we got a guy who is a clear upgrade in a starting position and a guy who makes our defense better.
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3/12/2009  8:07 AM
i said that all will be forgiving after he score his first 30 point game and lookee here. look, his best pro seasons were with the wizards when, gasp, they ran the ball and was up tempo. then he went to the cavs and bulls which was a waste of his talent. he is not a half court player. he plays better in an up tempo system plain and simple and mike d and walsh have done their homework. he is doing better than i thought, i admit that since i thought wilcox will end up being the jewel of the trade.
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3/12/2009  8:37 AM
One thing I am liking about Larry is that his shot selection is getting a lot better. He is passing up bad shots and moving the ball and is shooting in rythm now.
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3/12/2009  9:16 AM
Posted by jazz74:

i said that all will be forgiving after he score his first 30 point game and lookee here.

you do realize he scored 39 points two days ago, right?
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3/12/2009  9:21 AM
Posted by TMS:

the only thing "Crawful-ish" about Hughes is his shot selection... if u compare the way these guys play they're really nothing alike...

Damn you still love the dude don't ya.
The point I was making was about being hot and cold. Larry does what Jamal does in that respect he can be real hot for an entire week and look like a superstar and then he can follow that up by looking like an NBDL walk on.

I'd still take Hughes over Crawful though. Hughes plays defense and is better at creating for teammates. I know I know Crawful has the Crawsover of doom but that's more showboating than creating.

Hughes > Crawful
Harrington > Crawful

Not sure what else there is to say...pretty happy with Hughes but fully expecting an NBDL type week from him as well. Just a rental though.
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3/12/2009  12:18 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by jazz74:

i said that all will be forgiving after he score his first 30 point game and lookee here.

my point. all is forgiven after he dropped 39. now he is the man. look we know what we have with him and we have to make do. he is still talented and pretty much a young vet. he will be gone by 2010 so if he wants to play like he did with the wiz, let's roll with it.

you do realize he scored 39 points two days ago, right?
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