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3/9/2009  11:58 PM
Watching this game on league pass... Blazers up 83-55 and Fernandez was on a breakway for a dunk and Ariza just clothesline Rudy across the head in mid-air. Rudy hit the ground EXTREMELY hard. Rudy is still on the ground and a stretcher is coming out. Definite Flagrant 2 - makes Perkins/Bynum look tame. After basically killing Rudy, Ariza tries to fight the whole Blazers team. What a joke.
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3/9/2009  11:59 PM
The Lakers are a bunch of fugazy ass mofo's. Bynum has had a few of these this year, add in Ariza. Fake hustle.
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3/10/2009  12:02 AM
Odom also came off the bench during the scrum. He's looking at a suspension for sure.
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3/10/2009  12:05 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Odom also came off the bench during the scrum. He's looking at a suspension for sure.

Well, past history shows Lamar Odom isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the lamp.
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3/10/2009  12:23 AM
Posted by K22:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Odom also came off the bench during the scrum. He's looking at a suspension for sure.

Well, past history shows Lamar Odom isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the lamp.

No doubt. Ariza should receive a lengthy suspension for this. He could have caused serious injury to Fernandez
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3/10/2009  12:38 AM
Blazers 111 Lakers 94.

I haven't seen anything posted on youtube yet.

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3/10/2009  1:06 AM
Posted by K22:

Blazers 111 Lakers 94.

I haven't seen anything posted on youtube yet.

[Edited by - K22 on 2009-03-10 12:39 AM]

Yeah I'm waiting for the video to appear on youtube too.
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3/10/2009  1:07 AM
OK, I just saw it.

Ariza did go for the ball but he clotheslined Rudy in the back of the head first. The spill he took was just nasty. He had feeling in his limbs but he had chest pains. I think the stretcher was a precautionary measure.

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ah, I hate to hear stuff like that.. the blazers announcers jumped conclusions and said ariza went for his head.. and he didn't, and they need to be a little more responsible.. Ariza swiped and got the ball and barely a piece of fernandez head. rudy jumped off one leg and he had no balance.. I wish him the best, I don't want to see anyone hurt, but I don't think ariza was trying to cheap shot him, or hurt him..
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3/10/2009  3:54 AM


What the hell???

I'm more upset at the Portland big men...why is Brandon Roy the main one poppin off...Channing frye and some of those big men shoulda popped off. Ah man what the hell??? Thats a dirty play. You don't wanna see a brawl but this shoulda been a brawl.
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3/10/2009  4:01 AM
Posted by tkf:

ah, I hate to hear stuff like that.. the blazers announcers jumped conclusions and said ariza went for his head.. and he didn't, and they need to be a little more responsible.. Ariza swiped and got the ball and barely a piece of fernandez head. rudy jumped off one leg and he had no balance.. I wish him the best, I don't want to see anyone hurt, but I don't think ariza was trying to cheap shot him, or hurt him..

Ariza definately was wrong...especially with him running at the mouth after it. He knew what he was doing. He knew Rudy was in the air...he did go for the ball but he had no chance at it and made a irresponsible play. He was going for the hard foul. That is a very dangerous situation. He didn't even show remorse....he just went at the Blazers like "what!!!"

again I'm disappointed more at the Portland bigmen....I'm sorry but guys would have to fight over this. Rudy could have flipped and came down on his neck, or broke his arm....what if that indeed happened?
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3/10/2009  6:55 AM
You have to give him a flagrant 2 even if he was going for the ball. You can't have players hitting other players on the head.
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3/10/2009  7:14 AM
Posted by Ira:

You have to give him a flagrant 2 even if he was going for the ball. You can't have players hitting other players on the head.
What if it was entirely accidental? It looks to me like he was going for the ball and the contact was ugly but accidental.
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3/10/2009  7:35 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by tkf:

ah, I hate to hear stuff like that.. the blazers announcers jumped conclusions and said ariza went for his head.. and he didn't, and they need to be a little more responsible.. Ariza swiped and got the ball and barely a piece of fernandez head. rudy jumped off one leg and he had no balance.. I wish him the best, I don't want to see anyone hurt, but I don't think ariza was trying to cheap shot him, or hurt him..

Ariza definately was wrong...especially with him running at the mouth after it. He knew what he was doing. He knew Rudy was in the air...he did go for the ball but he had no chance at it and made a irresponsible play. He was going for the hard foul. That is a very dangerous situation. He didn't even show remorse....he just went at the Blazers like "what!!!"

again I'm disappointed more at the Portland bigmen....I'm sorry but guys would have to fight over this. Rudy could have flipped and came down on his neck, or broke his arm....what if that indeed happened?

It would have just happened. Rudy isn't the most solid guy on the court. I seen similar swipes and no injury occur. Rudy just fell awkwardly. Actually I seen Rudy make similar swipes. If the NBA wants to be serious then make a stand and disallow block shot attempts.
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Posted by Pharzeone:
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Posted by tkf:

ah, I hate to hear stuff like that.. the blazers announcers jumped conclusions and said ariza went for his head.. and he didn't, and they need to be a little more responsible.. Ariza swiped and got the ball and barely a piece of fernandez head. rudy jumped off one leg and he had no balance.. I wish him the best, I don't want to see anyone hurt, but I don't think ariza was trying to cheap shot him, or hurt him..

Ariza definately was wrong...especially with him running at the mouth after it. He knew what he was doing. He knew Rudy was in the air...he did go for the ball but he had no chance at it and made a irresponsible play. He was going for the hard foul. That is a very dangerous situation. He didn't even show remorse....he just went at the Blazers like "what!!!"

again I'm disappointed more at the Portland bigmen....I'm sorry but guys would have to fight over this. Rudy could have flipped and came down on his neck, or broke his arm....what if that indeed happened?

It would have just happened. Rudy isn't the most solid guy on the court. I seen similar swipes and no injury occur. Rudy just fell awkwardly. Actually I seen Rudy make similar swipes. If the NBA wants to be serious then make a stand and disallow block shot attempts.

come on man....that was not a clean block attempt. Like I said even if it was, it was irresponsible. Both cases stand for an ass whipping.

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3/10/2009  8:41 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Pharzeone:
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Posted by tkf:

ah, I hate to hear stuff like that.. the blazers announcers jumped conclusions and said ariza went for his head.. and he didn't, and they need to be a little more responsible.. Ariza swiped and got the ball and barely a piece of fernandez head. rudy jumped off one leg and he had no balance.. I wish him the best, I don't want to see anyone hurt, but I don't think ariza was trying to cheap shot him, or hurt him..

Ariza definately was wrong...especially with him running at the mouth after it. He knew what he was doing. He knew Rudy was in the air...he did go for the ball but he had no chance at it and made a irresponsible play. He was going for the hard foul. That is a very dangerous situation. He didn't even show remorse....he just went at the Blazers like "what!!!"

again I'm disappointed more at the Portland bigmen....I'm sorry but guys would have to fight over this. Rudy could have flipped and came down on his neck, or broke his arm....what if that indeed happened?

It would have just happened. Rudy isn't the most solid guy on the court. I seen similar swipes and no injury occur. Rudy just fell awkwardly. Actually I seen Rudy make similar swipes. If the NBA wants to be serious then make a stand and disallow block shot attempts.

come on man....that was not a clean block attempt. Like I said even if it was, it was irresponsible. Both cases stand for an ass whipping.

You do realize that players foul more often than block shots. That's why even great shotblockers can only average around 2+ per game. Ariza tried to block Rudy's shot and failed. Rudy fell awkwardly and got hurt. There is nothing irresponsible about it. I could make the same remark that Rudy failed to identify where the defensive player was (he didn't look back) on the court and the position but that doesn't mean anything. A bad accident occur on a basketball play. After that was another story. Like I said to avoid it and to take it out of the refs hands on deciding what is and what is not a basketball play, the league can disallow the shot block which would automatically be assessed a technical foul. Lee fans rejoice.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 03-10-2009 08:42 AM]
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3/10/2009  9:06 AM
i think it was a little excessive on Ariza's part... considering what the score was & it was later on in the game i think there was some frustration there in his intent over just trying to block the layup... looked to me like he wanted to knock that ball or Rudy F into the stands, either or.
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3/10/2009  10:25 AM
Argh... I can't believe we made that Ariza for Francis trade...

Larry is such a genius. He must have known he'd be battling the Knicks for a playoff spot at some point down the road.
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3/10/2009  11:13 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Pharzeone:
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Posted by tkf:

ah, I hate to hear stuff like that.. the blazers announcers jumped conclusions and said ariza went for his head.. and he didn't, and they need to be a little more responsible.. Ariza swiped and got the ball and barely a piece of fernandez head. rudy jumped off one leg and he had no balance.. I wish him the best, I don't want to see anyone hurt, but I don't think ariza was trying to cheap shot him, or hurt him..

Ariza definately was wrong...especially with him running at the mouth after it. He knew what he was doing. He knew Rudy was in the air...he did go for the ball but he had no chance at it and made a irresponsible play. He was going for the hard foul. That is a very dangerous situation. He didn't even show remorse....he just went at the Blazers like "what!!!"

again I'm disappointed more at the Portland bigmen....I'm sorry but guys would have to fight over this. Rudy could have flipped and came down on his neck, or broke his arm....what if that indeed happened?

It would have just happened. Rudy isn't the most solid guy on the court. I seen similar swipes and no injury occur. Rudy just fell awkwardly. Actually I seen Rudy make similar swipes. If the NBA wants to be serious then make a stand and disallow block shot attempts.

come on man....that was not a clean block attempt. Like I said even if it was, it was irresponsible. Both cases stand for an ass whipping.

This "athletic" runing blocks from behind are good only for highlights.
This should be prohibited as dangerous play.
It is no reason to put players healts at risk just becouse of 2-3 highlight blocks per season.
Better be safe that sorry.





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3/10/2009  11:28 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by tkf:

ah, I hate to hear stuff like that.. the blazers announcers jumped conclusions and said ariza went for his head.. and he didn't, and they need to be a little more responsible.. Ariza swiped and got the ball and barely a piece of fernandez head. rudy jumped off one leg and he had no balance.. I wish him the best, I don't want to see anyone hurt, but I don't think ariza was trying to cheap shot him, or hurt him..

Ariza definately was wrong...especially with him running at the mouth after it. He knew what he was doing. He knew Rudy was in the air...he did go for the ball but he had no chance at it and made a irresponsible play. He was going for the hard foul. That is a very dangerous situation. He didn't even show remorse....he just went at the Blazers like "what!!!"

again I'm disappointed more at the Portland bigmen....I'm sorry but guys would have to fight over this. Rudy could have flipped and came down on his neck, or broke his arm....what if that indeed happened?

It would have just happened. Rudy isn't the most solid guy on the court. I seen similar swipes and no injury occur. Rudy just fell awkwardly. Actually I seen Rudy make similar swipes. If the NBA wants to be serious then make a stand and disallow block shot attempts.

come on man....that was not a clean block attempt. Like I said even if it was, it was irresponsible. Both cases stand for an ass whipping.


ennyspree, he actually got a lot of the ball, it was a legit play.. rudy fell awkwardly, it wasn't a hard foul, just a hard and odd fall... ariza got mostly ball.. come on...
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