http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57800/20090309/gallinari_will_remain_in_states_this_summer/

Knicks rookie Danilo Gallinari claims that he will workout in the United States this summer in an attempt to avoid slimming down.

"For sure I'm going to work out a lot to be better, better and better," said Gallinari. "'Work' is the only word I know to get better. I'm going to work out here (instead of in Italy). If I go back to Italy, it will just be for vacation."

Gallinari, who is currently listed at 6-10, 225 pounds, has been limited at times this season because of back issues.

Nothing Earth-shattering here, but it's good to see that Gallo realizes and is willing to do the necessary things to bulk up properly.

Good news for Gallinari. Hope he does not work out with the guy who f'd up his back last year, though. 235-240 lbs might be a target- I don't think he will lose that much speed. I also assume that some natural maturity will kick in

Like to see Lee come back with some muscles. His weight is OK, but he needs some extra strength, IMO.

Animal? I never see him pull down rebounds like I've been seeing Wilcox doing. I never see Lee make the timely rebound when we need him or a monster rebound in traffic. Lee is soft and is a phantom in the clutch.

Posted by Marv:

Posted by GKFv2:

Animal? I never see him pull down rebounds like I've been seeing Wilcox doing. I never see Lee make the timely rebound when we need him or a monster rebound in traffic. Lee is soft and is a phantom in the clutch.

then you don't see. open your eyes and watch. quit parroting the trendy haters and appreciate the guy for his vastly superior rebounding abilites. if you don't believe me go query the players in the league.

Chris Wilcox needs more minutes. He's a good finisher around the hoop, grabs some tough rebounds in traffic and plays better defense than David Lee(who doesn't?). Honestly, the talent gap between Wilcox and Lee is not that far off. Lee is a better passer and finisher since he's able to do it with both hands but if you gave Wilcox 37 mpg and ran the pick-and-roll, he would get you 15/10 too. Wilcox was hitting the mid-range jumper that year in Seattle where he averaged 15 ppg. If the plan is to sign Chris Bosh and draft or sign/trade for a defensive minded shotblocking Center, why would you waste $10M on Lee? With Bosh and defensive minded Center, you only need a Wilcox caliber backup PF/C. And Wilcox will not cost $10M. Right thing to do this summer is sign and trade Lee for assets that will help you get rid of Eddy Curry at the February 2010 trade deadline.

One thing I can say is that I don't really see Lee grabbing "tough" rebounds. Some players get rebounds when your team really really needs one. Zach was pretty good at that .... Lee - eh.

I just don't hear about him making big plays - money plays and grabbing that "tough tough" rebound. Someone mentioned his extremely quiet stat line from the Nets game I believe and those quiet games are not lifting this team. He disappears when playing against men.

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by GKFv2:

Animal? I never see him pull down rebounds like I've been seeing Wilcox doing. I never see Lee make the timely rebound when we need him or a monster rebound in traffic. Lee is soft and is a phantom in the clutch.

then you don't see. open your eyes and watch. quit parroting the trendy haters and appreciate the guy for his vastly superior rebounding abilites. if you don't believe me go query the players in the league.

Chris Wilcox needs more minutes. He's a good finisher around the hoop, grabs some tough rebounds in traffic and plays better defense than David Lee(who doesn't?). Honestly, the talent gap between Wilcox and Lee is not that far off. Lee is a better passer and finisher since he's able to do it with both hands but if you gave Wilcox 37 mpg and ran the pick-and-roll, he would get you 15/10 too. Wilcox was hitting the mid-range jumper that year in Seattle where he averaged 15 ppg. If the plan is to sign Chris Bosh and draft or sign/trade for a defensive minded shotblocking Center, why would you waste $10M on Lee? With Bosh and defensive minded Center, you only need a Wilcox caliber backup PF/C. And Wilcox will not cost $10M. Right thing to do this summer is sign and trade Lee for assets that will help you get rid of Eddy Curry at the February 2010 trade deadline.

One thing I can say is that I don't really see Lee grabbing "tough" rebounds. Some players get rebounds when your team really really needs one. Zach was pretty good at that .... Lee - eh.

I just don't hear about him making big plays - money plays and grabbing that "tough tough" rebound. Someone mentioned his extremely quiet stat line from the Nets game I believe and those quiet games are not lifting this team. He disappears when playing against men.

Chris Wilcox sucks. Always did and always will.
He is 10 min player to fill from the bench.
He will be packaged with one of these cleaning trades at the next trade deadline together with useless Q and Jeffries (if we get lucky), chalking Al and Hughes, and most likely Duhon.
Do not get used to these guys, they will not be Knicks for a long time.







[Edited by - arkrud on 03-09-2009 10:55 PM]

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by GKFv2:

Animal? I never see him pull down rebounds like I've been seeing Wilcox doing. I never see Lee make the timely rebound when we need him or a monster rebound in traffic. Lee is soft and is a phantom in the clutch.

then you don't see. open your eyes and watch. quit parroting the trendy haters and appreciate the guy for his vastly superior rebounding abilites. if you don't believe me go query the players in the league.

Chris Wilcox needs more minutes. He's a good finisher around the hoop, grabs some tough rebounds in traffic and plays better defense than David Lee(who doesn't?). Honestly, the talent gap between Wilcox and Lee is not that far off. Lee is a better passer and finisher since he's able to do it with both hands but if you gave Wilcox 37 mpg and ran the pick-and-roll, he would get you 15/10 too. Wilcox was hitting the mid-range jumper that year in Seattle where he averaged 15 ppg. If the plan is to sign Chris Bosh and draft or sign/trade for a defensive minded shotblocking Center, why would you waste $10M on Lee? With Bosh and defensive minded Center, you only need a Wilcox caliber backup PF/C. And Wilcox will not cost $10M. Right thing to do this summer is sign and trade Lee for assets that will help you get rid of Eddy Curry at the February 2010 trade deadline.

One thing I can say is that I don't really see Lee grabbing "tough" rebounds. Some players get rebounds when your team really really needs one. Zach was pretty good at that .... Lee - eh.

I just don't hear about him making big plays - money plays and grabbing that "tough tough" rebound. Someone mentioned his extremely quiet stat line from the Nets game I believe and those quiet games are not lifting this team. He disappears when playing against men.

Chris Wilcox sucks. Always did and always will.
He is 10 min player to fill from the bench.
He will be packaged with one of these cleaning trades at the next trade deadline together with useless Q and Jeffries (if we get lucky), chalking Al and Hughes, and most likely Duhon.
Do not get used to these guys, they will not be Knicks for a long time.







[Edited by - arkrud on 03-09-2009 10:55 PM]

If Chris Wilcox sucks then you are also implying Lee sucks as well. Oh wait 15 and 11 OMG - I'm gonna blow my load. Tell me where this guy is a go to guy? When does he make the big play, especially on defense? Overrated as hell. I have gotten sick of hearing about how great he is. I am going to go all islesfan on David Lee.

king says everytime lee puts on weight he f's up his game. dude is rebounding like a total animal. let him stay at this weight.

edit: muscle = weight with him, so he'll just have to be uncut. we'll leave it up to bonn's final word.

[Edited by - marv on 03-09-2009 10:22 PM]

Rebounding is not his problem- I am thinking about him getting pushed around down low on D.

Don't care much about him being cut- I just want him stronger.

Just sounds like he does not want to lift. I am sure that there are many lifting options that would allow him to build up his body without experiencing results he does not want.

(Added) Seems to be some real hatred for Lee by some folks. For better or worse, he has been a consistent and solid part of this team this year, despite his limitations. Surprising reactions.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 03-09-2009 11:12 PM]

Posted by VDesai:

Its a moot discussion b/c Wilcox hasn't proven to have the work ethic to be David Lee. Even if he did, that he'd outrebound Lee is quite a feat for him. There aren't a lot of players in the league who average around 12 rebs...this year or any year.

Brian Grant. Danny Fortson. That's 2 off the top of my head. Throw out something else for me to disprove.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 03-09-2009 11:51 PM]

Posted by nyk4ever:

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57800/20090309/gallinari_will_remain_in_states_this_summer/

Knicks rookie Danilo Gallinari claims that he will workout in the United States this summer in an attempt to avoid slimming down.

"For sure I'm going to work out a lot to be better, better and better," said Gallinari. "'Work' is the only word I know to get better. I'm going to work out here (instead of in Italy). If I go back to Italy, it will just be for vacation."

Gallinari, who is currently listed at 6-10, 225 pounds, has been limited at times this season because of back issues.

Nothing Earth-shattering here, but it's good to see that Gallo realizes and is willing to do the necessary things to bulk up properly.

Things like this is probably one of the reasons why they were so comfortable drafting a guy like Gallo. They will probably never have to question where his heart or head is.

Dude how about reading things a bit closer. He played about 6 games that season.

Posted by VDesai:

Though he did get the 11+ rebs on other time early in the lock shortened year in Denver. He was never that good though he did fall off a quick pretty quickly partly due to injuries as well.

I would take young Forton or young Grant over Lee, no question. Call me crazy but I actually appreciate a guy who can play defense and those guys did so very well. They also rebounded the ball very well. Their expertise wasn't scoring and it isn't Lee's either. Lee is not some sort of dominant scorer where it makes up for his terrible defense.