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Allanfan20
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3/8/2009  1:21 PM
He has NOT ONCE come into camp in shape. At least not for us. NOW, he's entering a Summer with lawsuits and MAJOR family issues coming at him in all directions.

We desperately need to get his contract off the books and we really need him on the court at the start of next season all the way to the trade deadline. If he comes into camp in worse shape than last fall, then there's no way he's ever going to get on the court. It's entirely possible too with what I mentioned in the first paragraph.

If I were the Knicks, I would order him to stay in NY for most of the Summer and have the trainers monitor him heavily. He has important family issues, but he can keep himself in shape too. There's never a reason not to when you're a pro athlete. And now, it's flat out immature of Curry to be in the shape he is. So if he's going to act like a child, he needs to be treated like a child.

In the words of James Hettfield, "Sad but true".
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3/8/2009  1:30 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

He has NOT ONCE come into camp in shape. At least not for us. NOW, he's entering a Summer with lawsuits and MAJOR family issues coming at him in all directions.

We desperately need to get his contract off the books and we really need him on the court at the start of next season all the way to the trade deadline. If he comes into camp in worse shape than last fall, then there's no way he's ever going to get on the court. It's entirely possible too with what I mentioned in the first paragraph.

If I were the Knicks, I would order him to stay in NY for most of the Summer and have the trainers monitor him heavily. He has important family issues, but he can keep himself in shape too. There's never a reason not to when you're a pro athlete. And now, it's flat out immature of Curry to be in the shape he is. So if he's going to act like a child, he needs to be treated like a child.

In the words of James Hettfield, "Sad but true".

There is absolutely no chance that Curry comes into camp next year in shape. Its an impossibility. You would think that he would understand that his knee problems are going to get worse if he continues to be over weight, but he just doesn't get it.

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3/8/2009  1:38 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

He has NOT ONCE come into camp in shape. At least not for us. NOW, he's entering a Summer with lawsuits and MAJOR family issues coming at him in all directions.

We desperately need to get his contract off the books and we really need him on the court at the start of next season all the way to the trade deadline. If he comes into camp in worse shape than last fall, then there's no way he's ever going to get on the court. It's entirely possible too with what I mentioned in the first paragraph.

If I were the Knicks, I would order him to stay in NY for most of the Summer and have the trainers monitor him heavily. He has important family issues, but he can keep himself in shape too. There's never a reason not to when you're a pro athlete. And now, it's flat out immature of Curry to be in the shape he is. So if he's going to act like a child, he needs to be treated like a child.

In the words of James Hettfield, "Sad but true".

There is absolutely no chance that Curry comes into camp next year in shape. Its an impossibility. You would think that he would understand that his knee problems are going to get worse if he continues to be over weight, but he just doesn't get it.


Yep, sighting Black Swans is one thing, but Curry being in shape at start of season is sheer science fiction.
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3/8/2009  3:25 PM
He'll pay Tim Grover to say he is in shape. Mean while Tim's mom is feeding him pot roast in the basement.
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3/9/2009  10:45 AM
"I've been here a long time," Curry said before the Knicks lost 106-101 to the Nets last night at Izod Center. "I want to see us get better. If it takes my contract to do it, then I would hate to leave, [but] if it results in the Knicks getting better, I'm all for that."

Scary statement by Curry. He should be insulted if somebody were to even bring up him being traded to make the team better and make everyone even regret thinking that with his play on the court. The guy is just laying down now, waiting to be beat. He's an almost dead horse at this point, with the way he's acting.
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3/9/2009  10:47 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:
"I've been here a long time," Curry said before the Knicks lost 106-101 to the Nets last night at Izod Center. "I want to see us get better. If it takes my contract to do it, then I would hate to leave, [but] if it results in the Knicks getting better, I'm all for that."

Scary statement by Curry. He should be insulted if somebody were to even bring up him being traded to make the team better and make everyone even regret thinking that with his play on the court. The guy is just laying down now, waiting to be beat. He's an almost dead horse at this point, with the way he's acting.

He basically stopped short of saying he wants out. Well, let's go get a semi and assist in his wishes.

He doesn't care.

[Edited by - K22 on 2009-03-09 10:50 AM]
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3/9/2009  11:09 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

He has NOT ONCE come into camp in shape. At least not for us. NOW, he's entering a Summer with lawsuits and MAJOR family issues coming at him in all directions.

We desperately need to get his contract off the books and we really need him on the court at the start of next season all the way to the trade deadline. If he comes into camp in worse shape than last fall, then there's no way he's ever going to get on the court. It's entirely possible too with what I mentioned in the first paragraph.

If I were the Knicks, I would order him to stay in NY for most of the Summer and have the trainers monitor him heavily. He has important family issues, but he can keep himself in shape too. There's never a reason not to when you're a pro athlete. And now, it's flat out immature of Curry to be in the shape he is. So if he's going to act like a child, he needs to be treated like a child.

In the words of James Hettfield, "Sad but true".

Im going to go easy on Curry. His child was just killed. Yea, he should be trying his best, but lets not kick someone when there down.
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3/9/2009  11:16 AM
If it was a one year thing perhaps, but it's every year with the guy. That stuff didn't happen in the offseason when he was tripling up meals.
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3/9/2009  11:20 AM
Posted by subzero0:
Posted by Allanfan20:

He has NOT ONCE come into camp in shape. At least not for us. NOW, he's entering a Summer with lawsuits and MAJOR family issues coming at him in all directions.

We desperately need to get his contract off the books and we really need him on the court at the start of next season all the way to the trade deadline. If he comes into camp in worse shape than last fall, then there's no way he's ever going to get on the court. It's entirely possible too with what I mentioned in the first paragraph.

If I were the Knicks, I would order him to stay in NY for most of the Summer and have the trainers monitor him heavily. He has important family issues, but he can keep himself in shape too. There's never a reason not to when you're a pro athlete. And now, it's flat out immature of Curry to be in the shape he is. So if he's going to act like a child, he needs to be treated like a child.

In the words of James Hettfield, "Sad but true".

Im going to go easy on Curry. His child was just killed. Yea, he should be trying his best, but lets not kick someone when there down.

It's hard to not kick somebody who is lying in your doorway.
Not because of anger, but just accidentally.
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3/9/2009  11:40 AM
Im going to go easy on Curry. His child was just killed. Yea, he should be trying his best, but lets not kick someone when there down.

At least somebody gets it

The mentality around here is whats truly scary. The man's infant daughter was murdered and all people want to do around here is insult the man and whine about basketball.

Yeah, he has been a flawed talent for us, but ya'll need to put things in perspective and have a heart. Basketball isnt that damn important.

The sentiment against Eddy Curry is whats really keeps free agents away. NY fans can be classless and selfish.

[Edited by - sebstar on 03-09-2009 11:42 AM]
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3/9/2009  11:41 AM
I'm happy to keep Curry, but he has to get his stuff together.

Otherwise, regardless of the union or what is or isn't in his contract, I think we should play hard ball with his fat but.

Honestly, his contract is to play basketball. Whether a clause is included about weight, it should be understood that his responsibility is to be in shape. He certainly doesn't have to be able to run a marathon, but likewise, he should not be round.
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3/9/2009  12:12 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Im going to go easy on Curry. His child was just killed. Yea, he should be trying his best, but lets not kick someone when there down.

At least somebody gets it

The mentality around here is whats truly scary. The man's infant daughter was murdered and all people want to do around here is insult the man and whine about basketball.

Yeah, he has been a flawed talent for us, but ya'll need to put things in perspective and have a heart. Basketball isnt that damn important.

The sentiment against Eddy Curry is whats really keeps free agents away. NY fans can be classless and selfish.

[Edited by - sebstar on 03-09-2009 11:42 AM]

I agree that family comes first. With that said, he's making millions and getting sued and needs the millions A LOT more now. You'd think he'd motivate himself to work himself in shape so he can make more millions to say the least.

What happened with his child and ex gf was horrible, but he can still keep himself in shape. And NOW he's with the Knicks again. He HAS to keep himself in shape, for his sake and the sake of the Knicks. He needs it for his health, he needs it if he wants to get another contract without worrying about losing all of that money and we need it for obvious reasons. This isn't being insensitive. This is being factual.
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3/9/2009  12:17 PM
Dude needs more than a chef. He needs a life coach or a therapist, and I don't say that as a dis. I really hope he is seeing somebody with everything that is going on in his life, and just not expecting the camaraderie of being back with the team to heal all his emotional & psychological wounds.

Definitely feels like he's got one last off-season to salvage a respectable NBA career out of this. I don't think it's impossible he gets on his grind and show more effort than he has in the past to getting conditioned. Just feels very unlikely, but I really hope for his own sake that he can prove everyone wrong.
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3/9/2009  12:27 PM
Analyze This

Given the tragic string of events since the Curry home invasion, I place a huge part of the responsibility for the wellness of his client on his negligent agent, Leon Rose. The only thing that most agents provide is contract negotiation distance. Rose obviously only looks after the payday aspect of his relationship with Curry.

If he was earning his cut, he would have a battery of experts watching over, and guiding, Curry.

At only 26 years old, Eddy can reclaim his NBA career IF, and it is a huge IF, he wants to do so. But he will need more assistance than Herb Williams can provide in a few practice workouts. Someone will need to get inside his mind and his heart and find some answers

Someone will need to get to the core of why Eddy is in the NBA in the first place and determine whether his apparent level of interest can be inspired to seek excellence at basketball...

or whether he should pursue watercolor painting at a serene beach location somewhere far, far away from Chicago.
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3/9/2009  12:35 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Analyze This

Given the tragic string of events since the Curry home invasion, I place a huge part of the responsibility for the wellness of his client on his negligent agent, Leon Rose. The only thing that most agents provide is contract negotiation distance. Rose obviously only looks after the payday aspect of his relationship with Curry.

If he was earning his cut, he would have a battery of experts watching over, and guiding, Curry.

At only 26 years old, Eddy can reclaim his NBA career IF, and it is a huge IF, he wants to do so. But he will need more assistance than Herb Williams can provide in a few practice workouts. Someone will need to get inside his mind and his heart and find some answers

Someone will need to get to the core of why Eddy is in the NBA in the first place and determine whether his apparent level of interest can be inspired to seek excellence at basketball...

or whether he should pursue watercolor painting at a serene beach location somewhere far, far away from Chicago.

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3/9/2009  12:36 PM
He's only 26, but he's a big man with a *heart* condition in both senses of the word. Thinking of Cuttino and the fact that turf toe is grounds for a trade rejection these days, I think next off-season is his last chance to avoid a career of DNP-CDs, spot minutes and injuries a la Big Snacks.
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3/9/2009  12:39 PM
misterearl, I've analyzed that and I am concerned.

It seems that a common theme is becoming increasingly prevalent in the American society. That is, a lack of personal responsibility.

If his agent is to be condemned for his profit-seeking methodology, and Eddy Curry excused for his lack of development and initiative, then, my friend, this is an alarming transformation in our values.

So, what are the athletes that manage to grow and take care of their finances and careers?
Brilliant geniuses? No, they are average people; it's to be expected...or at least it was.
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3/9/2009  12:53 PM
Personal Responsibility

orangebloom - lack of personal responsibility? you mean like the average people who failed in their responsibility to do any due diligence and trusted Bernie Madoff, based on a personal referral, with their fortunes?

Yes, it alarming to the extent that so many people covet the winning lottery ticket, the extreme home makeover, to sleep with whoever VH1 has available for a reality show or the next buck nekkid dance at the video shoot?

I, for one, would like to know what "American" values are.

Do American "values" include Slavery, Native American genocide, redlining or the hate-filled vitriol of Rush Limbaugh?... or are they embodied the patriotism of a Crispus Attucks, WW2 veterans, the everyday heroes who teach in public schools?

I'm confused

But please pardon the siderant, Eddy Curry is just a manchild in an unpromised land.

The Knicks roster will work itself out in another 20 months and hopefully Eddy Curry (and all of us) will be able to enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.


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3/9/2009  12:56 PM
Interesting point, orangeblobman. I don't think misterearl is exempting Eddy Curry of his own responsibility for his life and career, but simply pointing out that a good agent might look at his clients career a bit more holistically, and do more hand-holding for a special case like Eddy Curry, someone who has the tools but is short on maturity or self-determination.

Perhaps this transformation in our values happened where a college senior entering the NBA draft became the exception instead of the rule. And a lot of Americans are having problems taking care of their finances and careers.
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3/9/2009  2:41 PM
DAlphaeus - I could not have said it better

Nowhere did I intend to exempt Eddy Curry from personal responsibility.

Curry has an opportunity that many of us might give up Jessica Alba's cel digits for

It's just that some guys definition of personal responsibility doesn't extend to an honest confession of ingesting or injecting questionable substances to gain a competitive edge (see taped congessional hearings of Roger Clemens or Mark McGwire)

or

tying their shoes before they check into a basketball game (see illustration of Chris Washburn)
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