I really do--isn't it about time to have a miracle in this franchise? I mean I feel like we are going to sck for another 8 years at this pace. We need a miracle

I hope I'm employed after I graduate from college in a couple of months...

Hope 1(a) is that we get Blake though

Posted by Vmart:

He is like 6'8'' pf isn't he. They have him listed as 6'10'' but they are saying he is 6'8'' or smaller.

Blake Griffin is the real deal.

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Vmart:

He is like 6'8'' pf isn't he. They have him listed as 6'10'' but they are saying he is 6'8'' or smaller.

Blake Griffin is the real deal.

Whatever man, Like I said I'm not buying any player until I know what their height is for sure. Last year they had Beasley listed at 6'9'' and some were saying 6'10'' and it turns out he isn't bigger than 6'8''. If Griffin is 6'10'' I'll take him number one overall. The Kicks have PFs galore what another one. I would like him to be 6'10 atleast so they can throw him at Center.

Beasley is a SF Blake is an interior player. Elton Brand is 6-6 and Carlos Boozer is 6-7

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Vmart:

He is like 6'8'' pf isn't he. They have him listed as 6'10'' but they are saying he is 6'8'' or smaller.

Blake Griffin is the real deal.

Whatever man, Like I said I'm not buying any player until I know what their height is for sure. Last year they had Beasley listed at 6'9'' and some were saying 6'10'' and it turns out he isn't bigger than 6'8''. If Griffin is 6'10'' I'll take him number one overall. The Kicks have PFs galore what another one. I would like him to be 6'10 atleast so they can throw him at Center.

Beasley is a SF Blake is an interior player. Elton Brand is 6-6 and Carlos Boozer is 6-7

Beasley was billed as a inside/outside guy. He was listed as 6'10 like VMart said but everyone knew that was joke. Riley was spot on about him being a finesse player vs. banger. Brand was advertise, sold and has always been a banger.

Posted by franco12:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I really do--isn't it about time to have a miracle in this franchise? I mean I feel like we are going to sck for another 8 years at this pace. We need a miracle

Briggs- you are right about the sucking for another 8 years unless they get lucky this year and add a serious game changing talent in the draft. 2010 is going to come and we're going to strike out and end up with a joe johnson type talent with a peak overacheiving talent level of maybe 48 wins and a bunch of first & second round exits to show for it.

Just imagine if the Knicks never got lucky with Ewing I bet they would never had a winnig season. They rode Ewing for over a decade, he poured his guts out for the Knicks and they never gave him top tier talent until he was on the decline. It amazed me how in the early years he would have to go to battle with crap like Gerald Wilkins, Oakley, Johnny Newman, Kenny Walker It shocked me they could never pair him up with a rising superstar. The Knicks didn't start to get him players until he was on the decline. The Knick oraganizations stupidity has cost the fans for years there is no way the Knicks should have come out of the Ewing Era without a ring, but they managed to do so. I don't think this team is ever going to win.
They need miricales not just a miricale.

All I want is for them to start thinking draft. Now you don't have to be as obvious and as blatant like Don Nelson out in Golden State but it's time for us to shut this thing down and start thinking about maximizing our draft position. I'd love to see them get in the 5-8 position with our own 1st rounder and get an IMPACT PLAYER. Then acquire another lower pick or two and grab some more talent. That's the way to go now and it's been the way to go for a long time - even before the all-star break...

Too bad I still can't find a link to an article Filip Bondy wrote a few weeks back in the Daily News that dicussed why the Knicks should tank it out the rest of the way in order to get the highest draft pick possible. That article mentioned how quite a few teams (Houston-Olajuwon, Chicago-Jordan, San Antonio-Duncan, etc..) went this route and turned around their franchises almost instantly by doing so. Well I agreed with every word the man wrote that day. This is the way to go now and has been for weeks. I hope they finally wake up and smell the coffee. THEY MUST START FOCUSING ON THE DRAFT. Anything else is a complete waste of time.

Easy folks. One of the top Pg's or centers will fall to us. We'll be ok.

Posted by s3231:

I hope I'm employed after I graduate from college in a couple of months...

Hope 1(a) is that we get Blake though

Just make sure you work hard, get as many connections as you can get and don't mind a bad salary at first if it lets you show your employers that you have what it takes. Even in this economy if you do that you will be working after graduation.

I graduated in May from School of Communication and practically immediately had a job as a multimedia producer and now Im the producer of a reality show. Just work hard and be ready to prove everyone your worth.

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Posted by Finestrg:

All I want is for them to start thinking draft. Now you don't have to be as obvious and as blatant like Don Nelson out in Golden State but it's time for us to shut this thing down and start thinking about maximizing our draft position. I'd love to see them get in the 5-8 position with our own 1st rounder and get an IMPACT PLAYER. Then acquire another lower pick or two and grab some more talent. That's the way to go now and it's been the way to go for a long time - even before the all-star break...

Too bad I still can't find a link to an article Filip Bondy wrote a few weeks back in the Daily News that dicussed why the Knicks should tank it out the rest of the way in order to get the highest draft pick possible. That article mentioned how quite a few teams (Houston-Olajuwon, Chicago-Jordan, San Antonio-Duncan, etc..) went this route and turned around their franchises almost instantly by doing so. Well I agreed with every word the man wrote that day. This is the way to go now and has been for weeks. I hope they finally wake up and smell the coffee. THEY MUST START FOCUSING ON THE DRAFT. Anything else is a complete waste of time.

This team would give away three number 1 draft picks today just to get that 8th seed so they can raise ticket prices. That is what they do here. Really our hope for this team is Gallinari and Chandler-- i really think that Lee and nate are as good as gone and that our pick will be wrapped up with Jefferies and sent out. This team is going to be stripped to the bone and then they think Lebron is coming here with Spike Lee manning the PG position and James Dolan at shooting G. OK

which is why not making the 8th seed was the best thing ever. It got rid of Isiah. I think DW uses the draft well as he's shown in the past.

The problem is this draft totally sucks IMO and if your not in the top 2 this draft is a total crapshoot. Griffin and Harden are studs

Posted by Knicksfan:

I knew this season would end up like this because this has been the script for the last decade. At first everybody was pumped up and like "I don't care about the draft, get me to the playoffs" and all. This has been another lost season and the best the Knicks and Mike D can do is keep competing but finding ways to lose. No reason to try with what's left because really the best that can happen is for us to get a great player in this year's draft. No other way to see it.

We can and must be in playoff mode next season, when we will not have to care about a draft pick and a playoff berth will help the recruiting of free agents. Then will the addition of Hughes and Wilcox (will he still be here?) be important. Not now, I don't care about the playoffs now.

I can see us being worse next year. I think there is a good chance we lose Lee and Nate with inferior one year replacements in the cost cutting gig. I think we lose Nate for nothing but cap space and Lee is going to get a 9-10mm $ offer they will refuse to match