Playoffs are fading... identify the best PG in the draft and do whatever it takes to get him
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BRIGGS
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3/3/2009 11:52 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44: I would say in order 1. Jennings 2 Teague 3. Warren I don't think we would need to go further than that if we get pick 9. The guy who has star ability is Jennings as the pure PG who can also shoot it. The other guys are really good but they arent the pure PG that Branden is. I think that the Knicks have to make a decision on their avenue. With 22 games left and -11 I put very low emphasis on the playoffs. It might be different if we had all the players who were going to be here long term but that is far from true. Since we took a project player who lacks athletic ability--the next guy we take[if it's a non C] has to have that NBA athletic ability. Calathes and Curry are really good players but Im not interested any more. We need an athlete who can break guys off the dribble and create separation RIP Crushalot😞
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JohnWallace44
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3/3/2009 11:58 AM
Jennings and Calathes would give you something similar to what they thought they were going to have in Phoenix with Marbs and Penny.
Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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Papabear
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3/3/2009 12:03 PM
Papabear Says
Later for those little short point guards. We need a 7 foot center who can block shots and score points. We need a big man. We have enough little people. Papabear
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JohnWallace44
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3/3/2009 12:08 PM
Posted by Papabear: If Thabeet is there... you have to think twice, but... imagine how much improved our team is if they have a Devin Harris type player. Does a Dalembert type make us that much better? Maybe. Its a good debate. I don't want to take Monroe at this point over the top five PG's out there though. Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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nyk4ever
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3/3/2009 12:12 PM
Wow you didn't even mention Eric Maynor and he's a top 3 PG in this draft.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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nyk4ever
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3/3/2009 12:14 PM
My PG order would be:
1. Jennings 2. Maynor 3. Teague "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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JohnWallace44
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3/3/2009 12:19 PM
Posted by nyk4ever: He's all over the board on different lists. I haven't seen him play personally. He's that good huh? Warren impresses me a ton because he has that Baron Davis type bulk to him. I think a physical PG would be nice to have on this team. Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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nyk4ever
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3/3/2009 12:24 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:Posted by nyk4ever: I've seen Maynor play a bunch of times - most notably when he beat Duke all by himself in the first round of the NCAA tournament a few years ago as an 11 seed. The dude plays for a smaller school (VCU) so he doesn't get as much love. He's not as good as Chris Paul but his game does remind me alot of his. "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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JesseDark
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3/3/2009 12:26 PM
Like Papabear I would still go with a big man. I think our win/lost record next year will be affected more by defensive presences in the middle. The '10 free agent class pick up(s) will probably be a 2,3, or 4 so I think we would be viewed more of a complete team if we have something realistic in the middle.
Bring back dee-fense
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JohnWallace44
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3/3/2009 12:38 PM
Jesse I hear that. I won't shed any tears if we draft Thabeet.
I think you need a special kind of big to play in our offense, where there are probably five PG's that would work very well for us from the list above. Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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phishman
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3/3/2009 12:54 PM
RICKY RUBIO!
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JamaicanJetFan
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3/3/2009 1:04 PM
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Paladin55
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3/3/2009 1:38 PM
The PG we draft will have to be a player who MDA believes can be the embodiment of his-MDA's- offensive philosophy. I tend to think that he would want someone who he thinks can run his offense over a guy who rates higher in other areas.
I would think that people should be thinking about how MDA would look at the available PG prospects in this draft, and making comments from that perspective. No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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BRIGGS
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3/3/2009 1:58 PM
As a pure PG Branden Jennings has no equal in this draft. I kind of thought we could get a big man and take advantage of the high quality volume of PGs by picking up a second pick and perhaps grabbing a Curry a Lawson--someone who WILL fall and we couldve killed two birds with one stone so to speak. But if they are bluntly looking for a PG for the long term to run the show--there is one star and then all the others. I know Uconn had him ranked as the number one player in the class this year by a mile and he only decided on AZ over Uconn very late in the process. In fact after he left for Europe and he could speak freely on him--JC said that he thought he was the best PG prospect in the last 10 years on his radio show. If that's what the Knicks want--IF they can get up high enough to have a shot--or get to his agent to give him a promise if he doesnt work out anywhere else--than they should go for best of breed.
RIP Crushalot😞
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JohnWallace44
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3/3/2009 2:03 PM
Calhoun said that he was the best PG in the last 10 years? He's recruited some good ones during that time.
That gets my attention. Once you get past 10 in this draft all of the value will be in the PG's. If we get multiple picks, and we don't get Thabby or Mullens then we might end up with 2 new PG's of the future. Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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MS
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3/3/2009 2:06 PM
Chad Ford said he believes that Jennings is going to fall in the 7 to 14 range which means the team has a realistic chance of landing him. But, he also noted that the Knicks are in love with Curry and Lebron is also a big fan, he looks like a real volume shooter but perhaps it's because he doesn't have anyone else out there.
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JohnWallace44
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3/3/2009 2:22 PM
I'll be so pissed if we take Curry high in the draft. Buy a pick Walsh. I think you could get another pick so easy, especially because it's so rich in PG's. If a team doesn't need one... who are you picking?
Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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Playoffs are fading... identify the best PG in the draft and do whatever it takes to get him