I am not saying Lee is better than Bosh but I think taking a guy that gets 15-11 at 10 million is better than 17 million for 23-9 and he doesnt make his team better or block shots. Bosh wouldnt get more in this offense he already shoots the ball 17 times a game vs Lee 11. Give Lee six more shots he is getting close to 20 a game. Sign Lee and get a 5 million defensive stopper, and you still have money for Joe Johnson for a max. Then when 2011 money opens then you go get another player. We dont have a problem scoring we do have a problem rebounding and Bosh doesnt rebound like Lee. Go draft a big or a shooter and sign Lee and a shot blocker

In my mind, one advantage of signing Lee is that he really wants to play here.

Bosh and Lee. Together - in the Knicks frontcourt.

Bosh gets Jared Jeffries' starter minutes.

Gallinari at the three.

Chandler at the two.

No misterearl, because we don't have a shotblocker again in that setup.

Lee and a shot blocker, yes.

I don't understand misterearl. I'm just saying that Bosh with Lee in the front court wouldn't alleviate our shotblocking problems. Maybe David Lee and, like, Anthony Randolph? Plus Lebron James. Championship.

Sign Lee and get Horford for about 7 million and then sign your max guy

I see I see...

Well, blocks weren't counted back for the championship Knicks and I'm not old enough..

But it is a different game. Patrick Ewing had a 2.7 bpg in 93/94, and finished with a career avg of 2.4.

I think, as a team, we average about 2.5.

We need a shotblocker.

Posted by King1:

Misterearl why is all the max players go to move different franchises when it has never happened before. If people can beleive 2 max players want to come here then I can dream Horford coming to the knicks lol

I can't remember the last time there was such a talented free agent class. Someone tell me the last time so many great players available in one off season. It must be a while.

too many factors that's not being taken into account.

bosh has a great offensive game. he can hit a jumper. he can take his man off the dribble. he can draw fouls. his biggest knock offensively is that sometimes he gets the ball and hesitates...then he makes it easy on the defense to stop whatever move he's trying to make since he's not phsyically strong enough to back a guy down and allows opposing guards to defend the lane. that's partly on him but the majority of that is on coaching. when he knows what he wants to do and then does it, he's almost unstoppable. he takes 17 shots a game but those 17 shots would be alot more effective under d'antoni than under smitch/triano.

he's been coached by kevin o'neill then sam mitchell and then jay triano. none of them are anywhere near the level of mike d'antoni. with d'antoni's encouragement on offense, bosh could become a machine...and unstoppable machine.

therefore the comparison between lee + bosh doesn't apply...b/c i feel that with d'antoni, bosh would be an mvp candidate.

on the defensive side, bosh is not strong enough to keep people out of the paint and is not a great shotblocker...but understand that the guy is asked to carry the offensive load a bulk of the time and averages close to 40 mins a game. so i can understand why his defense would slack b/c of those circumstances.

lee is a big time rebounder and is getting better at finishing...but he has zero competition from his own teammates in terms of rebounding. 4 guys are on the perimeter...the offense promotes a ton of shots...and lee is the only guy crashing the boards, so his #'s will be up as a result. credit to him for excelling but again, i don't think this comparison holds too much water.

if you ask any gm if they would rather have bosh at $17 mil or lee at $10 mil, 99.9% of the gm's will take bosh.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 01-25-2009 01:26 AM]

DJ I totally agree with you and I think its pretty obvious that king is too close to the lee situation to make a fair assessment.

Posted by King1:

Misterearl why is all the max players go to move different franchises when it has never happened before. If people can beleive 2 max players want to come here then I can dream Horford coming to the knicks lol

In NBA math, two decent players never equals one stud...Come on dude, are u kidding, what's next, Lee vs. LeBron thread??