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I would love to hear an explanation as to why we passed on Eric Gordon
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crzymdups
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1/6/2009  11:07 PM
32pts 6 ast tonight.

31pts 3 ast last night.

we need a guard. we need a shooter. what possible logic is there for passing on Gordon? to be fair, i wanted Westbrook over Gordon, but if Westbrook isn't on the board and you can't get Mayo, don't you move to the next guard on the list?
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1/6/2009  11:08 PM
If Gallinari were healthy enough to play, maybe we'd know. Or maybe we'd know we're idiots. At this point there's just not a lot to say.
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1/6/2009  11:11 PM
Gallinari is not on the active roster right now because he is afraid of the NBA. he's healthy. it's completely mental. that is not the makeup of a star or even a good player. he's a bust.

anyway, this team needed a guard - we needed one at the draft. we had Chandler and DLee and ZBO at the time of the draft, we did not need a forward. we didn't know we were getting Duhon and i think most people assumed Marbury wouldn't play here. we needed a guard. we still need a guard even with Duhon because QRich is bad and Nate is out of control. we have no shooters.

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1/6/2009  11:12 PM
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1/6/2009  11:12 PM
Stud!

If he improves his ball handling and finishing in traffic it's a wrap. He could end up being the best player in this draft.
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1/6/2009  11:13 PM
I wish we could go back and see who wanted who drafted this was the perfect fit for the Knicks
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1/6/2009  11:29 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Gallinari is not on the active roster right now because he is afraid of the NBA. he's healthy. it's completely mental. that is not the makeup of a star or even a good player. he's a bust.

anyway, this team needed a guard - we needed one at the draft. we had Chandler and DLee and ZBO at the time of the draft, we did not need a forward. we didn't know we were getting Duhon and i think most people assumed Marbury wouldn't play here. we needed a guard. we still need a guard even with Duhon because QRich is bad and Nate is out of control. we have no shooters.


I'm sorry but this post was just dumb. The hell are you talking about? Like it's some conspiracy that Gallinari isn't playing.

Eric Gordon is putting up numbers on a terrible team but he turns the ball over and is just all offense. He's not a playmaker. Yes he's a shooter but also an inconsistent undersized one. I'm happy with Gallo as long as he gets on the court and shows us what he can do. And by that I mean over the years. Not this year, but the following years. He's a young kid. He's got potential. Patience. I know it's hard but patience is the key.
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1/6/2009  11:31 PM
EG is the same age and he has scored more points in a game than Gallo will all year. He is a rookie and he will learn and be a nice player in this league.
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1/6/2009  11:31 PM
I'll admitt I was wrong about Eric Gordon....but I still don't like his game so he can drop 50pts a game and I wouldn't care.
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1/6/2009  11:32 PM
I think the reason might have been we already met our quota of undersized, shoot first backcourt players, and adding another one wasn't going to help balance our roster.

I suspect if he had been a legit 6'6", we would have taken him if he had not already been taken.

The real explanation we need is for Lopez.
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1/6/2009  11:32 PM
Posted by King1:

EG is the same age and he has scored more points in a game than Gallo will all year. He is a rookie and he will learn and be a nice player in this league.

Wow man. It must be really hard to outscore a guy who isn't playing due to injury.
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1/6/2009  11:40 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by King1:

EG is the same age and he has scored more points in a game than Gallo will all year. He is a rookie and he will learn and be a nice player in this league.

Wow man. It must be really hard to outscore a guy who isn't playing due to injury.

you're acting like anyone has made it up. no doctor has found anything wrong with him. the official reason he's not playing is so he can 'rest'. he's got stage fright, man. he's never playing.
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1/6/2009  11:42 PM
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1/7/2009  2:12 AM
Posted by King1:

I wish we could go back and see who wanted who drafted this was the perfect fit for the Knicks

i didn't see that many people advocating EG but TrueBlue & maybe a few others but i don't recall who they were... most people were all over Jerryd Bayless' jock w/a viciousness... i know fishmike wanted Joe Alexander & Bippity wanted Mike Sweetney.
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1/7/2009  2:19 AM
Wow, he really is tearing it up.

Yet, he's doing it on a crap team with no options because they're all on the IR.

I'd like to see his stats once that team is healthy. What then? If he has reduced stats but at the same efficiency? Then I guess we can cry about the Gallo pick.

We sure could have used him though. And, if he develops beyond this, he'd had been a perfect fit for our 2010 plans.

Ah ****. Gallo damn sure better be Dirk or well... we ****ed up.




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1/7/2009  8:53 AM
The problem with Gordon is he had a horrible shooting year after his wrist injury and I thik some people were wondering whether he was for real or a bust. The other thing is that he cannot play PG, which is what we were primarily looking for. Gordon was projected to be a bigger, better version of Ben Gordon. Since we already had Crawford and Nate to play the chucker role, Walsh decided to go in a different direction. Obviously, in hindsight, Gordon looks like he would have been a great pick for us now that we have traded Crawford, but at the time, I don't recall too many people clamoring for Gordon. He was on the list of potential picks for us by everyone but no one really had him as our first or second choice. If I had to make the choice at the time, I probably would have taken Gordon over DG because I had never seen DG play and knew Gordon could at least be a Vinny Johnson-type sixth man in the league. I really wanted Westbrook and then Bayless, and then I would have picked Gordon if those two were off the board. DG better be as good as advertised because the Knicks passed on alot of talent to get him.
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1/7/2009  9:03 AM
Well, many of our guys are putting up good numbers on a not-so-great team too...13-20 is not something to be proud of!
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1/7/2009  9:30 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

Gallinari is not on the active roster right now because he is afraid of the NBA. he's healthy. it's completely mental. that is not the makeup of a star or even a good player. he's a bust.

Maybe you can give him some counseling. You seem like a thoughtful, rational, and intelligent fellow, and your ability to read into the future would make you an excellent shrink for the timid Rooster.

Might want to wait a bit before you declare any rookie at this point to be star or a bust. There will be more than enough time in the future for you to rant and rave if the Italian stud is a dud.

I don't recall many Knicks fans crying out for Gordon prior to the draft or even after the first few games of the season.

Why not wait and see how things develop over a 3 year period.

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1/7/2009  11:08 AM
I wanted EG and Courtney Lee and both of these guys would have helped. I was wrong on LOpez I thought he was too mechanical and not athletic enough.
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1/7/2009  11:10 AM
I can fully understand why the Knicks did not take this player. At the time we had Jamal Crawford who commanded nearly 40 minutes a game averaging 20 points we had Nate Robinson Q Richardson Stephon Marbury---I believe the last thing we needed was another player who needed 16-20 shots a night. We had too many of these types of players shoot first and do very little in terms of everything else. That being said--whoever gave the go ahead on Gallinari should be fired. Donnie Walsh said we had to get this pick right. It's Ok to take a player based on potential but if you ADD in the risk of taking a foreign player with potential--as in NOT proven one iota against American athletes in the American style of the game---you triple the risk. The Knicks once again tried to get fancy with their pick and whatever excuse someone wants to make--as far as I know this player should be considered a bust. The doctors have said he has NO problems yet he wont play--there is a problem with that. He may be out of his element. It's not an acceptable excuse IMHO--he simply wont play and he is being paid to do so. The Knicks took a high risk and they are being burned.
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I would love to hear an explanation as to why we passed on Eric Gordon

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