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Travla
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1/4/2009  4:14 PM
Knicks need to get rid of the mental block and beat the Celtics. Celtics recently lost 3 of 4 road games so it's possible. Play smart, move the ball and don't fall in love with jumpshooting. Go inside, get KG and Pierce in foul trouble and knock Rondo on his AZZ.
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1/4/2009  4:55 PM
Someone needs to play defense. And when Pierce or Ray are on the bench, get in Rondo's face. No daylight.
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1/4/2009  5:06 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

Someone needs to play defense. And when Pierce or Ray are on the bench, get in Rondo's face. No daylight.

McHale is an idiot. Still can't believe that damn trade. Someone needs to knee him in the nuts. Where's Bill Laimbeer when you need him?
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1/4/2009  5:45 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Silverfuel:

Someone needs to play defense. And when Pierce or Ray are on the bench, get in Rondo's face. No daylight.

McHale is an idiot. Still can't believe that damn trade. Someone needs to knee him in the nuts. Where's Bill Laimbeer when you need him?

It's easy to blame the McHale-Ainge connection for the KG trade but let's be honest here. Al Jefferson is a pretty damn good young player.

The trade was:
Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, 2009 first round pick (top 3 protected) (?-?), 2009 first round pick (?-?), cash

Now, compare that with what say the Knicks could have offered: Frye, Lee, 08 Pick, Jalen & AD expirings - for - KG, Davis, Jaric, etc (salary dumps).

Bulls: Gordon, Deng, a pick, and what... PJ Brown exp I guess back then? For KG + some salary dump (again, Jaric, Davis, etc).

Lakers: Odom + ????

Who else was even in play?

So to be realistic, KG had to go, he wanted out, the team went only so far anymore with him and wanted to trade him, and I firmly believe that Celtic offer was better than anything anyone else could logically offer!

So I don't see the BIG conspiracy in that trade given what was out there for a KG trade.
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1/4/2009  5:49 PM
I should also add from a KG perspective where are you going to go? A Celtic team that had Pierce and Allen and a good role playing core .... or... a team that gutted itself to get you? (Chicago for instance)?


Anyways, funny watching Knicks Gamenight pre-empted by this stupid UCLA-Oregon game. LOL.... not that there's much to discuss on gamenight "Knicks blew another one, watch these selfish 1-1 plays when the Knicks were still up 3 and watch it lose the game for them...onto the Celtics losers of 3 of 4, probably looking to make a statement tonight! "

ugh....
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1/4/2009  5:54 PM
WOnt the Knicks be gutted for 2010? WHat will they have to offer a Lebron? Curry, Gallinari, and Jeffires?
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1/4/2009  5:55 PM
Jeffries to start again. WHY?

The problem was Nate AND Harrington starting. Q came back, put nate on the bench, not AL as well.

Jeffries digs us offensive holes. Harrington comes in, makes some shots, and we crawl back into the games. Why is it so hard to understand it's better if we start Harrington and maybe aren't behind by 10 to start every game that Jeffries starts?

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1/4/2009  5:55 PM
We will play the Celtics tough tonight
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1/4/2009  5:56 PM
Posted by King1:

WOnt the Knicks be gutted for 2010? WHat will they have to offer a Lebron? Curry, Gallinari, and Jeffires?

That can't compare with the KG trade scenario. You're talking about gutting a team to bring in two superstars and then build a team around them. The KG trade situations were vastly different than our new plan. I don't feel you can compare them.

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1/4/2009  6:01 PM
Lee will have trouble tonight because they defend the pick and roll so well and Powe and Perkins always seem to give him trouble.
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1/4/2009  6:07 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Silverfuel:

Someone needs to play defense. And when Pierce or Ray are on the bench, get in Rondo's face. No daylight.

McHale is an idiot. Still can't believe that damn trade. Someone needs to knee him in the nuts. Where's Bill Laimbeer when you need him?

It's easy to blame the McHale-Ainge connection for the KG trade but let's be honest here. Al Jefferson is a pretty damn good young player.

The trade was:
Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, 2009 first round pick (top 3 protected) (?-?), 2009 first round pick (?-?), cash

Now, compare that with what say the Knicks could have offered: Frye, Lee, 08 Pick, Jalen & AD expirings - for - KG, Davis, Jaric, etc (salary dumps).

Bulls: Gordon, Deng, a pick, and what... PJ Brown exp I guess back then? For KG + some salary dump (again, Jaric, Davis, etc).

Lakers: Odom + ????

Who else was even in play?

So to be realistic, KG had to go, he wanted out, the team went only so far anymore with him and wanted to trade him, and I firmly believe that Celtic offer was better than anything anyone else could logically offer!

So I don't see the BIG conspiracy in that trade given what was out there for a KG trade.

Ah shut up with your logic and ****. Me want to hate on McHale and the Celtics.
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1/4/2009  6:08 PM
Just heard Mike last minute instructions to his team. Offense, offense and energy. Where's the D being stressed?
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Posted by Pharzeone:

Ah shut up with your logic and ****. Me want to hate on McHale and the Celtics.

LOL!!!! Alright my good man I will step aside! FREAKIN' MCFAIL!!!!! What's NEXT!? Larry Turd trade Granger to the Celtics for Gabe Pruitt!?!?!? DAMN EX-CELTICS!!!

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Posted by Pharzeone:

Just heard Mike last minute instructions to his team. Offense, offense and energy. Where's the D being stressed?

He said something about the Celtics stressing D I think....is that what I heard?
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1/4/2009  6:10 PM
Honestly, I thought that Pau Gasol trade was much more criminal.
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1/4/2009  6:13 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Just heard Mike last minute instructions to his team. Offense, offense and energy. Where's the D being stressed?

He said something about the Celtics stressing D I think....is that what I heard?

Yeah, he talked about the Celtics defense but what about the Knicks defense? Can't let Powe and Perkins get involve. They are Knick killers. This is a game where you need a goon to set a tone. Get Jerome's fat ass in there to throw a gutcheck at Pierce when he goes to the basket.
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Posted by K22:

Honestly, I thought that Pau Gasol trade was much more criminal.

Yeah, Jerry helping out the Lakers. He bleeds purple and gold.
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1/4/2009  6:15 PM
That's what I am talking about Lee. Swat at those balls.
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1/4/2009  6:21 PM
Lee with the stuff.
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1/4/2009  6:21 PM
Duhon.... and this was mentioned by Tripuka the other night:

Every time the opposition makes a 3pter, how many times does Duhon come right back down and answer with a 3 of his own?

I'm thinking.... pretty often. Just an interesting thing. Didn't think about it until Tripuka mentioned it.
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