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JohnWallace44
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12/30/2008  12:30 PM
http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_11332968?nclick_check=1

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12/30/2008  12:36 PM
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12/30/2008  12:49 PM
It says Mccants and Telfair to the Knicks for Marbury...

Now, talk amongst yourselves...
You know I gonna spin wit it
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12/30/2008  1:07 PM
McCants + Telfair = 5 million
Marbles = 20 million
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12/30/2008  1:18 PM
^ This track brings back memories. Damn - look how young they are here.

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12/30/2008  1:52 PM
Marbury and Roberson

for Telfair, McCants, Cardinal, Collins

would work and we'd have 16 players so we'd have to drop a contract.
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12/30/2008  1:56 PM
what's Minny's reason for that deal? purely to save on 2009+ contracts?
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12/30/2008  1:56 PM
There is NOTHING on the Wolves that we would want...that they would give us...so this is just ridiculous as usual.

Just buy out RescindMyFineBury and move forward.

Use our trade abilities on getting rid of Curry and Jeffries. Nobody else has to be traded out of here that those two and whatever assets it would take to get it done (Nate, Chandler, Lee, whoever....)

Marbury, Malik, Jerome, Q... they all take care of themselves in 17 months. No reason to try to trade them, just for the sake of trading them, and winding back with TRASH. We have enough trash. Swapping trash for trash is simply pointless.
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12/30/2008  2:03 PM
Is McCants a guy they like? Do you see him as part of their future (i.e. starting 2 guard)?
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12/30/2008  2:07 PM
Posted by purple012870:

Is McCants a guy they like? Do you see him as part of their future (i.e. starting 2 guard)?

Wolves fans say he's a black hole chucker. He shoots 35% from the field. He's TRASH.

No thanks...let them keep him.
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12/30/2008  2:28 PM
Posted by kam77:

Marbury and Roberson

for Telfair, McCants, Cardinal, Collins

would work and we'd have 16 players so we'd have to drop a contract.

I say do it. That trade balances the Knicks out in a hurry.
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12/30/2008  2:30 PM
McCants seems to have potential....but also seems like an ornery & disturbed individual....like he could lose it at any moment.
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12/30/2008  2:42 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by kam77:

Marbury and Roberson

for Telfair, McCants, Cardinal, Collins

would work and we'd have 16 players so we'd have to drop a contract.

I say do it. That trade balances the Knicks out in a hurry.

Howwwwwwwwwww?????

Collins - 1.4pts, 1.9rbs
Cardinal - 0.7pts, 0.8rbds
McCants - 10.2pts, 35%FG, 1.1Ast
Telfair - 6pts, 31%FG, 3.3ast


Okay, Please explain how adding four HORRENDOUS players to our present roster balances us out?
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12/30/2008  2:48 PM
Extra 12 mils in 09/10.
Better to sign Lee and Nate.
And we will have some change left.
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12/30/2008  3:07 PM
McCants sucks.
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12/30/2008  3:07 PM
Posted by arkrud:

Extra 12 mils in 09/10.
Better to sign Lee and Nate.
And we will have some change left.

Marbury expires at 21.9M end of 08/09.

How does trading him for ... anyone at all ... improve our 2010 cap?

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12/30/2008  3:13 PM
The only players worth trading for in Minny for Dinglebury is Mike Miller, Cardinal and Collins. Trade work contract wise. They get an expiring early and we get 2 players we can actually use with contracts that end next year. We would need to cut 1 player.
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12/30/2008  3:14 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by kam77:

Marbury and Roberson

for Telfair, McCants, Cardinal, Collins

would work and we'd have 16 players so we'd have to drop a contract.

I say do it. That trade balances the Knicks out in a hurry.

Howwwwwwwwwww?????

Collins - 1.4pts, 1.9rbs
Cardinal - 0.7pts, 0.8rbds
McCants - 10.2pts, 35%FG, 1.1Ast
Telfair - 6pts, 31%FG, 3.3ast


Okay, Please explain how adding four HORRENDOUS players to our present roster balances us out?

Knicks need the players....McCants will start and I believe have a good career. Dude reminds me of starks a lot. Kid plays on edge and plays defense. He also benches Q and Nate. Sab is a point guard that would give Duhon the rest everyone thinks he needs.....this trade moves Wilson back to the 3 and makes for a cleaner rotation.

Collins would agree he sucks and shouldn't be in the league......but getting the other three mccants, sab and even cardinal fills out the roster. Even cardinal has a shot at finding a roll. The guys has been hurt. He looked active reciently. He could help off the bench.
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12/30/2008  3:34 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by kam77:

Marbury and Roberson

for Telfair, McCants, Cardinal, Collins

would work and we'd have 16 players so we'd have to drop a contract.

I say do it. That trade balances the Knicks out in a hurry.

Howwwwwwwwwww?????

Collins - 1.4pts, 1.9rbs
Cardinal - 0.7pts, 0.8rbds
McCants - 10.2pts, 35%FG, 1.1Ast
Telfair - 6pts, 31%FG, 3.3ast


Okay, Please explain how adding four HORRENDOUS players to our present roster balances us out?

Knicks need the players....McCants will start and I believe have a good career. Dude reminds me of starks a lot. Kid plays on edge and plays defense. He also benches Q and Nate. Sab is a point guard that would give Duhon the rest everyone thinks he needs.....this trade moves Wilson back to the 3 and makes for a cleaner rotation.

Collins would agree he sucks and shouldn't be in the league......but getting the other three mccants, sab and even cardinal fills out the roster. Even cardinal has a shot at finding a roll. The guys has been hurt. He looked active reciently. He could help off the bench.

Do you really want Dinglebury's cousin here? I don't know much about Telfair but does he have the same outlook in life like Steph?
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12/30/2008  5:17 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Knicks need the players....McCants will start and I believe have a good career. Dude reminds me of starks a lot. Kid plays on edge and plays defense. He also benches Q and Nate. Sab is a point guard that would give Duhon the rest everyone thinks he needs.....this trade moves Wilson back to the 3 and makes for a cleaner rotation.

Collins would agree he sucks and shouldn't be in the league......but getting the other three mccants, sab and even cardinal fills out the roster. Even cardinal has a shot at finding a roll. The guys has been hurt. He looked active reciently. He could help off the bench.

If you were talking about bringing in good players I could understand. But you're talking about four horrendous players.

Jerome > Collins
Malik > Cardinal

Now to the guards, they shoot in the low 30s from the field, are both turnover prone, not defenders, not assist men....what benefit is there in bringing that in?

I'll go a tad dramatic with how i feel about that - but it's not by much - I'd rather watch Jeffries and Roberson for 48 minutes a game as our back court than McCants/Telfair.

We are MUCH better off trying to: Buy out Marbury. Use the exemption on say Chucky Atkins in trade (if we're allowed to do that. Try to pry away someone a bit more promising like Felton for instance and who knows with Larry maybe he takes Jeffries back in such a deal. If nothing like that, sign a FA guard to fill 10-15 minutes, or even an NBDL guy like Walker Russel JR (who is superior to Roberson fyi).

I just think we could do MUCH more than this type of "idea". Especially when we're talking about four REALLY BAD players coming back. LOL, we're stacked with bad players, and none of them are as bad as what would come back in this type of idea trade.

Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm pretty sure I'm not.
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