This is turning into a gimmick 3 point shooting team. Our 3 point differential is over ELEVEN and we are DEAD last in rebounding and blocked shots. If you take these three important aspects and put them together were not going to be a winning team. Do NOt spend or acquire more guys who need to shoot long distance as their major contribution. We need someone who can rebound/clog the lane and a back up PG. Al Harrington Tim Thomas Q Rich and Wilson Chandler have to play smarter basketball and move their games in from the perimeter. Were taking way to many 3 point shots. & seconds or less doesnt mean jack a 3 at any given point----look for better % shots and the coach has to preach this.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 12-24-2008 3:10 PM]

We are a work in progress, eliminating the garbage roster that Isiah put together. We are trying to win for the future. This means we will make moves that don't address immediate issues. Come on Briggs you are smart enough to realize this.

Posted by Bippity10:

We are a work in progress, eliminating the garbage roster that Isiah put together. We are trying to win for the future. This means we will make moves that don't address immediate issues. Come on Briggs you are smart enough to realize this.

What does this have to do with taking too many 3 point shots and not rebounding the ball? When you acquire players who take too many 3s they tend to be passive non rebounders who play porous defense. Were giving up way too many points---I dont care if the plan is for 2010--the coach needs to get the players to play smarter basketball and make them pay attention to the small things.

On top of it I hope he does not request additional outside shooting help--I think 35 a game is just a tad too much

Briggs, I guess you're not interested in Morris Almond anymore.

Posted by nyk4ever:

I've never seen someone so adamant about a team CLEARLY in the rebuilding phase try and get such small parts.

Briggs lives in an alternate universe known as Fantasy Land.

I actually would LOVE to give Almond a try. Big shooting guards who can shoot like nothing else has Allanfan20 written all over it. Plus he can rebound, which is perfect for D'Antoni. I don't care if they shoot 3s or not. If they got talent and play hard, then I want them.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by GKFv2:

[quote]Posted by nyk4ever:

I've never seen someone so adamant about a team CLEARLY in the rebuilding phase try and get such small parts.

Briggs lives in an alternate universe known as Fantasy Land.

I'm old enough to know we take way to many bad shots we have to much emphasis on the 3 point shot and were not paying attention to what is killing us. This doesnt matter whether its now or 2010--were not playing defense were not rebounding and were taking too many bad shots--if we dont stop the bad basketball of the last 7.5 years will continue for a LONG time.

I think were going to lose to Minnesota sending this team into a really bad spiral. Until we play smarter basketball--everything else does not matter.


I knew we were going to lose this game. Were not better than Minnesota and they had lost to many in a row.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 12-26-2008 11:00 PM]

Posted by BRIGGS:


I'm old enough to know we take way to many bad shots we have to much emphasis on the 3 point shot and were not paying attention to what is killing us. This doesnt matter whether its now or 2010--were not playing defense were not rebounding and were taking too many bad shots--if we dont stop the bad basketball of the last 7.5 years will continue for a LONG time.

I think were going to lose to Minnesota sending this team into a really bad spiral. Until we play smarter basketball--everything else does not matter.

Briggs our team sucks, this is a rebuilding effort. The goal right now and in the future is to bring in players who can flat out play and if that means we have 10 guards then fine, we have to weed out the ones who aren't good with the ones that are and work on bringing in players at other positions.

This team is not built to win right now and you might as well get used to it.

Posted by Uptown:

BRIGGS answer the question. Why no to Delfino, a perimeter oriented guard, and yes to Almond, a perimeter oriented guard? BTW, Almond doesn't rebound or block any shots as you mentioned in the first post.

No name matters right now. We need to play smarter basketball --take less 3 point shots get back on D get in better rebounding position[which is part of a 3 point shot--if your guys are sitting on the perimeter they are not in position for offensive rebounds and easy baskets. We need to drive post and use the mid raneg shot much more. . But the overall theme is playing smarter basketball--If we are playing so hard like some purport why are we dead last in rebounding? We have to modify and define before we start bringing up names. In terms of immediate personell we need a player who can spell Duhon effectively the way we play--where the PG can get better shots for the other guys. We need a guy who can compliment Lee--maybe Curry and Jefferies can do that

Almond Delfino they may or may not be upgrades over Q but I don't like the way the team is going as is rebuilding or whatever--take better shots run back on D rebound the ball---start there.

Posted by Pharzeone:

What does acquiring players who take 3 pointers matter if the head coach wants to take 3 pointers. People keep forgeting that this is the coach game plan. I mean for goodness sake Zack Randolph was asked to jack up 3 pointers. I don't care who you bring in here, if your coach tells you to step back and take 3s then that is what you are going to do. Why don't people call out the coach for not coming up with a better gameplan and adjusting to this current team versus a playing style that is not currently working. Isn't that what he gets the big bucks for? See Pat Riley if you don't understand that.

Why don't people call out the coach for not coming up with a better gameplan and adjusting to this current team versus a


I am

One of the mistakes that Layden and Isiah made was continually building on top of current teams. Never taking a step back and building the team for 2,3 4 years down the road. I am praying that this front office does something completely different. So far so good. Those recent trades were not made to make this current team better. Those recent trades were made to clear cap space to give us flexibility for the future. If we do that again with Curry who cares if we bring in another 6-9 three point shooter. If you take his salary off the books and replace him with 2 6-9 shooters whos contracts expire in 2009 why is that a bad thing. Why are we worried about our current roster? If you trade Curry and get a potential lottery pick along with 2 6-10 3 pt shooters who cares? It isn't about maximizing wins today. Our coach is doing his best to win with what he has, but the GM needs to look to the future. So far so good.

At this point we can't worry about if this next trade will affect our chances for the 8th seed. That was Isiscott Laymos type thinking. We can't worry about what draft pick we missed out on, we have to worry about developing the one we have and hope the next one pans out as well. It's time to start thinking about the future instead of constantly whining and moaning and complaining about the past.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 26-12-2008 09:16 AM]