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King1
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12/16/2008  3:35 PM
I know most of you dont care about getting to the playoffs and we are playing for 2010 and a chance to get Lebron. If we can get a defensive minded guard who can shoot a little and a vet big who can play defense and guard this team could be a 6th or 7th place team. Trade Malik for an expiring vet and get a guard that can either shoot or guard. The less Quentin and Jeffires plays the better this team will be.
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12/16/2008  3:42 PM
Posted by King1:

I know most of you dont care about getting to the playoffs and we are playing for 2010 and a chance to get Lebron. If we can get a defensive minded guard who can shoot a little and a vet big who can play defense and guard this team could be a 6th or 7th place team. Trade Malik for an expiring vet and get a guard that can either shoot or guard. The less Quentin and Jeffires plays the better this team will be.

how about you just speak for yourself.
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12/16/2008  3:45 PM
I'm all for making the playoffs. I agree about the guard. Less sure about the kind of big man that would be able to fit D'Antoni's system AND play defense. Would the Kings be willing to part with Brad Miller for Malik and Gallinari?
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12/16/2008  3:47 PM
i think you just describe bell + diaw...
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12/16/2008  3:48 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by King1:

I know most of you dont care about getting to the playoffs and we are playing for 2010 and a chance to get Lebron. If we can get a defensive minded guard who can shoot a little and a vet big who can play defense and guard this team could be a 6th or 7th place team. Trade Malik for an expiring vet and get a guard that can either shoot or guard. The less Quentin and Jeffires plays the better this team will be.

how about you just speak for yourself.

Yeah, I am with you on this one, Martin. LET'S GO KNICKS!

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12/16/2008  3:48 PM
why would we not care about making the playoffs? the point is u don't sacrifice the plan for 2010 just to make the playoffs this year... if u can get there & still keep the 2010 plan intact i have a hard time imagining anyone here being opposed to the idea.
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12/16/2008  3:49 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

i think you just describe bell + diaw...

it's a pretty safe bet Larry Brown gets tired of Diaw by the trade deadline. just because he's larry.

dlee and curry for diaw and charlotte's #1?
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12/16/2008  3:49 PM
Posted by Hoopsmeister:
Posted by martin:
Posted by King1:

I know most of you dont care about getting to the playoffs and we are playing for 2010 and a chance to get Lebron. If we can get a defensive minded guard who can shoot a little and a vet big who can play defense and guard this team could be a 6th or 7th place team. Trade Malik for an expiring vet and get a guard that can either shoot or guard. The less Quentin and Jeffires plays the better this team will be.

how about you just speak for yourself.

Yeah, I am with you on this one, Martin. LET'S GO KNICKS!

I think the majority don't care... but I'm with everyone I just quoted, the playoffs should be part of the focus. May as well establish a culture of winning for one of these prime UFAs to come.
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12/16/2008  3:51 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

i think you just describe bell + diaw...

was thinking the same.
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12/16/2008  3:52 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

i think you just describe bell + diaw...

Was thinking the same exact thing.
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12/16/2008  3:53 PM
yes to Bell, hell no to Diaw... no more longterm contracts.
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12/16/2008  3:54 PM
I think the Knicks have a tough decision. Do you stick with Lee or trade him for lesser value. If you trade him you wont make the playoffs, if you keep him you have a better chance of making the playoffs and losing him for nothing. You always here Lee name in a trade but why arent we hearing Nate name in trades? I really cant see them trading for Diaw and Bell. I was thinking Tyrus Thomas for Lee, or Kleiza for Lee would be trades that makes sense financially
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12/16/2008  3:55 PM
Would you guys do Lee, Curry, JJ2 for Diaw, Bell, May? salaries almost work.
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12/16/2008  3:59 PM
Posted by King1:

I think the Knicks have a tough decision. Do you stick with Lee or trade him for lesser value. If you trade him you wont make the playoffs, if you keep him you have a better chance of making the playoffs and losing him for nothing. You always here Lee name in a trade but why arent we hearing Nate name in trades? I really cant see them trading for Diaw and Bell. I was thinking Tyrus Thomas for Lee, or Kleiza for Lee would be trades that makes sense financially

My personal opinion is that Nate and Harrington are the only two players who are not available. That said, trades would need to give us significant upgrades and/or keep to the 2010 plan (unless it involves Curry or Jeffries and trade filler). A delicate balance indeed. There's still plenty of time until the trade deadline. let's just hope everyone stays healthy
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12/16/2008  4:00 PM
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by King1:

I think the Knicks have a tough decision. Do you stick with Lee or trade him for lesser value. If you trade him you wont make the playoffs, if you keep him you have a better chance of making the playoffs and losing him for nothing. You always here Lee name in a trade but why arent we hearing Nate name in trades? I really cant see them trading for Diaw and Bell. I was thinking Tyrus Thomas for Lee, or Kleiza for Lee would be trades that makes sense financially

My personal opinion is that Nate and Harrington are the only two players who are not available. That said, trades would need to give us significant upgrades and/or keep to the 2010 plan (unless it involves Curry or Jeffries and trade filler). A delicate balance indeed. There's still plenty of time until the trade deadline. let's just hope everyone stays healthy

because they had good games last night? i highly doubt Chandler or Duhon is available, either.
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12/16/2008  4:00 PM
I have no interest in trading Lee for players that aren't as good as him. A young player + a pick should bare minimum. We are holding all the cards here.
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12/16/2008  4:02 PM
Posted by King1:

I think the Knicks have a tough decision. Do you stick with Lee or trade him for lesser value. If you trade him you wont make the playoffs, if you keep him you have a better chance of making the playoffs and losing him for nothing. You always here Lee name in a trade but why arent we hearing Nate name in trades? I really cant see them trading for Diaw and Bell. I was thinking Tyrus Thomas for Lee, or Kleiza for Lee would be trades that makes sense financially

I totally agree King. I wouldn't trade Lee for Bell/Diaw, not in a million years. The Tyrus/Kleiza deal I would consider though, although obviously that would have to be a 3 team deal.
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12/16/2008  4:04 PM
Posted by VDesai:

I have no interest in trading Lee for players that aren't as good as him. A young player + a pick should bare minimum. We are holding all the cards here.

cosign.
Sick of seeing trades of Lee for trash.
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12/16/2008  4:06 PM
I wouldnt trade Lee for Tyrus Thomas in a million years. He is GARBAGE, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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12/16/2008  4:08 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by King1:

I think the Knicks have a tough decision. Do you stick with Lee or trade him for lesser value. If you trade him you wont make the playoffs, if you keep him you have a better chance of making the playoffs and losing him for nothing. You always here Lee name in a trade but why arent we hearing Nate name in trades? I really cant see them trading for Diaw and Bell. I was thinking Tyrus Thomas for Lee, or Kleiza for Lee would be trades that makes sense financially

My personal opinion is that Nate and Harrington are the only two players who are not available. That said, trades would need to give us significant upgrades and/or keep to the 2010 plan (unless it involves Curry or Jeffries and trade filler). A delicate balance indeed. There's still plenty of time until the trade deadline. let's just hope everyone stays healthy

because they had good games last night? i highly doubt Chandler or Duhon is available, either.

No, because Walsh brought Harrington in and Nate's a freak. They can both change a game for you and give you options. Chandler's OK, but he has a long way to go and may or may not ever get there. Duhon a good floor general but he really needs to get his shooting % up and he's not quick enough to consistently get to the basket w/o getting his shot blocked. You see how much he shies away now. Other teams have adjusted and he can't get to the basket and they play off him because he can't hit the 'j". that hasn't stopped him from trying from the top of the key though.... I like that he wants to be the guy to take the shot or the layup when the game is close, but his long range bricks and out of control turnovers around the basket have been killing us.
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