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Cookdcokehop
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12/14/2008  11:27 AM
This team is alot better than I thought. Everytime the Knicks play I have to adjust my "RecordPredictor". This is the most consistent I have seen our team play since 2000. We go out and we play hard every night. No more Divas (Marbury and Curry) or mental midgets (Zach and Crawford) on this squad. We are a finesse blue collar team and we are only going to get better. Everybody on our team is hungry. Chris "The Silencer" (Quiet but deadly)Duhon was a great addition. He is truely a team oriented player and I can see him here after the 2010 sweepstakes. I always knew Al Harrington was good but he is playing like an elite player right now. I hope he keeps it up. I really think we can make the playoffs this year. Let's go Knicks!
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12/14/2008  11:36 AM
Are u high right now?

Seriously, Duhon is playing well, and maybe he gets kept, anybody that wants to keep anybody else on this team excluding Chandler would be foolish. We are a mediocre team at best and we cant lose sight of our goals just because we "may" have a shot at the playoffs.
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12/14/2008  11:48 AM
I think the knicks will make the playoffs barring a season ending injury to anyone.
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12/14/2008  11:53 AM
Most teams that make the playoffs are mediocre. Any team that gives 100% every night has a shot. With the soul suckers finally removed, why not us?
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12/14/2008  12:09 PM
Yes, I think we will make the playoffs. I think our team is actually better than our record at this point (considering we lost a handful of games in the final 2 mins with a 7 man rotation, due in large part to fatigue).
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12/14/2008  1:09 PM
I think we can make the playoffs, whether we will or not is a different story. I think that we will definitely be in the chase, and if we don't make it look for a 9 or 10 spot finish.

It is noteworthy to mention that we are 11-12 all while having to endure the Marbury drama, the trades of our two 'best' players, and installing a new coach, system. A lot of positives.
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12/14/2008  1:22 PM
Right, so like someone said baring any major injuries we are better then at least 9 other teams in the east.

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12/14/2008  1:25 PM
i think the 4th through 11th seeded teams right now are all extremely equal... they're all flawed and it will come down to who has injuries. i think the knicks can make it and i think it'd be very good for the rebuilding effort. perception is everything and if it's perceived that the knicks are a playoff team, i think it's far more likely that they'll attract free agents.
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12/14/2008  1:45 PM
Posted by knicks1248:

Right, so like someone said baring any major injuries we are better then at least 9 other teams in the east.

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12/14/2008  2:16 PM
Yes, I think we can slip into the playoffs. The question is why? Are we competng for a chip this year? Or should we be competing for a high lottery pick w/ talent?
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12/14/2008  2:34 PM
We should try to make it. We have a unique style that could catch teams by surprise in the playoffs.

We're not done making moves anyway.
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12/14/2008  2:36 PM
I can't belive I'm saying this but this team will make the playoffs... doesn't mean it should be kept together though. Mike D'Antoni has a great system and Walsh is identifying short term players that will work in his system. I'm sure when D'Antoni has great players that fit into what he's trying to accomplish, it'll work.
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12/14/2008  2:58 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

We should try to make it. We have a unique style that could catch teams by surprise in the playoffs.

We're not done making moves anyway.

I disagree! The playoffs are a different game. We've seen it before w/ the D'Antoni offense. The Suns were uptempo.. had 3 allstars and didn't surprise anybody. The regular season they looked like dynamos, but in the post season they failed miserably!. In the playoffs, teams employ more of a half court style offensive scheme. Much more physical defense will be played, our NY Knicks will be oust in the 1st rd. Especially w/o having a go to guy... contenders usually have someone that can push them over the hump. We don't have that IMO.

I dunno how others feel in this forums, but I dont think making the post season is more of an achievement at this point for the direction of this franchise, than lets say securing a high 2009 draft pick. This team, although I admit is fun to watch... will not be here long term. So its for that reason alone, that we should re-evaluate the push towards the playoffs. Not to mention we wont have a pick in 2010.




[Edited by - JayNYC on 12-14-2008 3:03 PM]
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12/14/2008  5:49 PM
Posted by thejerk:

Are u high right now?

Seriously, Duhon is playing well, and maybe he gets kept, anybody that wants to keep anybody else on this team excluding Chandler would be foolish. We are a mediocre team at best and we cant lose sight of our goals just because we "may" have a shot at the playoffs.

Duhon will be a Knick after 2010. The Knicks are currently tied for 8th place in the East. I rather develop a winning culture with a draft pick in the late teens or early 20's than continue our losing culture with another lottery pick. Last year Atlanta and Toronto were mediocre and they made it to the playoffs. I think we are a little better than mediocre at this point in the season. You talk like I said a shot at the championship
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12/14/2008  5:52 PM
Posted by JayNYC:

Yes, I think we can slip into the playoffs. The question is why? Are we competng for a chip this year? Or should we be competing for a high lottery pick w/ talent?

Are you serious? Do you watch these dudes to see them get a lottery pick in July? That sucks. Maybe I am a traditional fan but I rather see my team up there with the other top 15 teams in the postseason. I don't want to stop watching the Knicks in April.
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12/14/2008  7:06 PM
Posted by JayNYC:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

We should try to make it. We have a unique style that could catch teams by surprise in the playoffs.

We're not done making moves anyway.

I disagree! The playoffs are a different game. We've seen it before w/ the D'Antoni offense. The Suns were uptempo.. had 3 allstars and didn't surprise anybody. The regular season they looked like dynamos, but in the post season they failed miserably!. In the playoffs, teams employ more of a half court style offensive scheme. Much more physical defense will be played, our NY Knicks will be oust in the 1st rd. Especially w/o having a go to guy... contenders usually have someone that can push them over the hump. We don't have that IMO.

I dunno how others feel in this forums, but I dont think making the post season is more of an achievement at this point for the direction of this franchise, than lets say securing a high 2009 draft pick. This team, although I admit is fun to watch... will not be here long term. So its for that reason alone, that we should re-evaluate the push towards the playoffs. Not to mention we wont have a pick in 2010.




[Edited by - JayNYC on 12-14-2008 3:03 PM]


If making it to two western conference finals, (one of them without arguably their best player Stoudemire, if not the best, then 1a)and the other time missing out on a trip to finals due to Stoudemire getting suspended a game due to a bogus call by the league (the infamous Horry play) is failing miserably, then you, my friend, aren't paying attention.
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12/14/2008  7:22 PM
Funny how you go from "OMG we traded Jamal and Zach it's the end of the world!" to "can we make the playoffs now?"
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12/14/2008  7:43 PM
Posted by Uptown:[br


If making it to two western conference finals, (one of them without arguably their best player Stoudemire, if not the best, then 1a)and the other time missing out on a trip to finals due to Stoudemire getting suspended a game due to a bogus call by the league (the infamous Horry play) is failing miserably, then you, my friend, aren't paying attention.

I beg to differ, I am paying attention.. fully aware of what took place. They never made it to the finals... never won a chip w/ that allstar trio. Its funny how people talk about the Western Conference finals. Yeah its an achievement, no doubt.. but what about last years exit from the playoffs in the 1st rd? Im not attempting to discredit D'Antoni's system by citing the fact that "you need a different style of play in the playoffs". All I merely wanted to point out was this, D'Antoni has not won with the good players that were in Phoenix, so why should we expect him to do better w/ mediocre ones at best. I am being a realest! This collection of Knicks will not flourish in the post season, period! We need not be fooled into thinking that this team is on the cusp of winning, as they likely will be disbanded in 2 years.

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12/14/2008  7:50 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:



Are you serious? Do you watch these dudes to see them get a lottery pick in July? That sucks. Maybe I am a traditional fan but I rather see my team up there with the other top 15 teams in the postseason. I don't want to stop watching the Knicks in April.

YES, VERY! That is the problem with a great majority of Knicks fans. Often most, are content w/ a mediocre product and rationalize their thinking by hinging there hopes on just making the playoffs. Is that what it has come to? Are you kidding me? What about winning the championship one day? Yes I would rather see the Knicks strategically ressurect this half dead franchise by Acquiring talent in the draft, and revamp the team over the next few years as opposed to just making the playoffs and settling for a 1st rd exit.
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Posted by JayNYC:
Posted by Uptown:[br


If making it to two western conference finals, (one of them without arguably their best player Stoudemire, if not the best, then 1a)and the other time missing out on a trip to finals due to Stoudemire getting suspended a game due to a bogus call by the league (the infamous Horry play) is failing miserably, then you, my friend, aren't paying attention.

I beg to differ, I am paying attention.. fully aware of what took place. They never made it to the finals... never won a chip w/ that allstar trio. Its funny how people talk about the Western Conference finals. Yeah its an achievement, no doubt.. but what about last years exit from the playoffs in the 1st rd? Im not attempting to discredit D'Antoni's system by citing the fact that "you need a different style of play in the playoffs". All I merely wanted to point out was this, D'Antoni has not won with the good players that were in Phoenix, so why should we expect him to do better w/ mediocre ones at best. I am being a realest! This collection of Knicks will not flourish in the post season, period! We need not be fooled into thinking that this team is on the cusp of winning, as they likely will be disbanded in 2 years.


I dont think you are being realistic when you say he failed miserably. 2 western conference final apparences is not failing miserably.

Speaking of realism, winning a championship is extremely hard. The stars have to align perfectly to pull off a 'Chip'. To say he didn't win a championship with good players isn't the whole story. Those same players haven't won a 'Chip' without him either (yes, I know Shaq won his share but he is way past his prime, not to mention Mike didn't have long to work with him.) This is a players league, and you need the right horses to win.

By your logic, Rick Adelman didn't win with good players either when he was in Portland and Sac-town. Did he fail miserably? or did he just happen to lose to better teams (Bulls, the badboys, and the Lake-show)?

How about Jerry Sloan. Did he fail miserably? or did he just run into the greatest player to ever lace up a pair of hightops?

I think MDA gets the most out of his players and takes them as far as they are going to go. Those Phoenix teams lost to a team that features, perhaps the best player in the league for the past 7 or so years. Ultimately, the best players usually walk away with the chip. From Bird to Magic to Isiah to Jordan to Hakeem to Shaq to Duncan etc. With the exception of Isiah, all of those guys were the MVP of the league at one time or another.....None of those guys played for MDA but he did compete against one of them (Duncan)and lost. No shame in that. Van Gundy, Adelman, Sloan, and other great coaches lost to those MVP's aswell. So I guess they all failed miserably.


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