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11/22/2008  1:50 AM
Jalen Rose just reported that he has credible sources that claim that Chris Bosh and Lebron James plan on joining the NY Knicks together in the summer of 2010.

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11/22/2008  1:51 AM
Jalen Rose is high on crack. Nobody can predict anything 2 years from now.
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11/22/2008  2:12 AM
It weird because a few hours earlier he was saying how the Knicks most likely weren't going to get Lebron and that he probably would stay in Cleveland or go to Detroit since they have more talent.

But there has been a lot of whispers for a long time that its practically a forgone conclusion. My brothers friend works for NBA store since his father owns one or something. For a while dating back to the offseason he has been trying to tell me that Lebron to NY is a done deal. I keep telling him when I see it that's when I'll believe it.
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11/22/2008  3:27 AM
Jalen Rose also said the Knicks would be worse this year than last year. But I'm down with that. Whoever Lebron wants, Lebron should get.
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11/22/2008  8:48 AM
Im just gunna keep postin this picture lolol
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11/22/2008  8:57 AM
Posted by Elite:

Im just gunna keep postin this picture lolol

No problem now, bro. Now people believe in 2010 so bring on any Lebron to NY pick! They show the future and it looks good for tha Knicks! Yeah!
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11/22/2008  9:06 AM
Steven A Smith thinks its gunna happen too

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?categoryId=2378529&brand=null&videoId=3718274&n8pe6c=3
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11/22/2008  9:07 AM
so does Bobby Simmons lol"

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55601/20081122/simmons_you_know_lebron_is_going_to_the_knicks/
Many of the Nets see the moves made by the Knicks to eventually acquire LeBron James.

"It's all about how you play your cards right now," said Bobby Simmons. "There's only one team that this guy is going to. I don't know why everybody's making a big deal about it. I'm just saying: You know he's going to the biggest market, to play for the Knicks. It's a business move. It's all about the marketing dollar."

"It works for both sides financially, and obviously we know what that means," Jarvis Hayes said. "Al Harrington comes off the books in oh-10, so that's perfect. But in basketball terms, I really like Jamal Crawford going to Golden State. If Golden State had to get rid of Al, that's a good trade for them."
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11/22/2008  9:10 AM
Not be a doomsayer, but really, why is Lebron leaving Cleveland. They just upgraded their roster with Mo Williams and look like they have a damn good chance of winning a championship. Assuming they can win one before 2010, why would LeBron leave. The Knicks are going to have Chandler, DG, Nate, and maybe Lee, plus whoever we pick up in 2009. While that is some talent, that really is not enough talent to entice Lebron from a team that won a championship. We just traded a 20/10 scorer, who was playing the best basketball of his career, for essentially nothing. No draft picks, no young prospects, nothing. This seems an awful like the Orlando plan about 9 years ago, when they thought they would get Tim Duncan and it did not work. If we miss out on LeBron we are going to have to overpay to get some free agents in. Walsh is really putting all his eggs in one basket at this point and he is not even acquiring draft picks as a backup plan. BAsically, what bothers me the most about these moves is that no draft picks were involved. Even if we only picked up second rounders, that would have been something we could have parlayed into maybe a better spot in the draft.
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11/22/2008  9:13 AM
i agree that we should have got draft picks also but honestly it seems as if we have more than enough to entice Lebron. He wants to come to new york. He makes it pretty obvious
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11/22/2008  9:23 AM
Posted by TheGame:

Not be a doomsayer, but really, why is Lebron leaving Cleveland. They just upgraded their roster with Mo Williams and look like they have a damn good chance of winning a championship. Assuming they can win one before 2010, why would LeBron leave. The Knicks are going to have Chandler, DG, Nate, and maybe Lee, plus whoever we pick up in 2009. While that is some talent, that really is not enough talent to entice Lebron from a team that won a championship. We just traded a 20/10 scorer, who was playing the best basketball of his career, for essentially nothing. No draft picks, no young prospects, nothing. This seems an awful like the Orlando plan about 9 years ago, when they thought they would get Tim Duncan and it did not work. If we miss out on LeBron we are going to have to overpay to get some free agents in. Walsh is really putting all his eggs in one basket at this point and he is not even acquiring draft picks as a backup plan. BAsically, what bothers me the most about these moves is that no draft picks were involved. Even if we only picked up second rounders, that would have been something we could have parlayed into maybe a better spot in the draft.


If the Knicks have enough cap space to sign two max players, why wouldn't Lebron come here with a Bosh or Wade or Stoudemire?

A lineup of
Lebron
Bosh
Charlie Brown
Scooby Doo
& Popa Smurf is a better lineup than anything on Cleveland. Just having the space available for Lebron and an Olympic teamate should be appealing enough.
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11/22/2008  9:41 AM
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by Uptown:
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Not be a doomsayer, but really, why is Lebron leaving Cleveland. They just upgraded their roster with Mo Williams and look like they have a damn good chance of winning a championship. Assuming they can win one before 2010, why would LeBron leave. The Knicks are going to have Chandler, DG, Nate, and maybe Lee, plus whoever we pick up in 2009. While that is some talent, that really is not enough talent to entice Lebron from a team that won a championship. We just traded a 20/10 scorer, who was playing the best basketball of his career, for essentially nothing. No draft picks, no young prospects, nothing. This seems an awful like the Orlando plan about 9 years ago, when they thought they would get Tim Duncan and it did not work. If we miss out on LeBron we are going to have to overpay to get some free agents in. Walsh is really putting all his eggs in one basket at this point and he is not even acquiring draft picks as a backup plan. BAsically, what bothers me the most about these moves is that no draft picks were involved. Even if we only picked up second rounders, that would have been something we could have parlayed into maybe a better spot in the draft.


If the Knicks have enough cap space to sign two max players, why wouldn't Lebron come here with a Bosh or Wade or Stoudemire?

A lineup of
Lebron
Bosh
Charlie Brown
Scooby Doo
& Popa Smurf is a better lineup than anything on Cleveland. Just having the space available for Lebron and an Olympic teamate should be appealing enough.

Two reasons: (a) we still need a PG, unless you think Duhon and Nate can lead a team to a championship; and (b) we still need a center, unless we get AMare, who can probably play center. Lebron gives you a SF and Bosh gives you a PF, but it is a longshot to get both. We have CHandler who I expect will be at a Caron Butler level by then and we may still have Lee and Nate as solid bench players, but we still are going to need a pg and a center and we have no draft picks to get those players unless we luck up in 2009.

Of course we would still need pieces, but if you can start your team with a foundation of Lebron and Bosh, for crying out loud thats a championship foundation. Once you have said player set in stone (or conrete to continue my foundation analogy) then you can overspend as the Knicks have proven to do in the past. But this time, you are overspending to find the final piece for a championship (pg. center etc...and BTW, with Lebron and Bosh, you dont necessarily need Chris Paul to run the point or Yao to man the post). All of a sudden, Wilson Chanlder looks that much better next to Lebron and Bosh. Duhon becomes better. With Lebron and Bosh, you can overspend for that center who only plays defense because he might be the final piece wee need to advance to the championship.

Think about it, how good would Rondo and Perkins look on this current team right now? Not very good. Yet, next to KG, Pierce and Ray, they are apart of a championship starting lineup. They can focus on thier strenghts while the big 3 can cover for their weaknesses.



[Edited by - uptown on 11-22-2008 09:55 AM]
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11/22/2008  9:48 AM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by TheGame:

Not be a doomsayer, but really, why is Lebron leaving Cleveland. They just upgraded their roster with Mo Williams and look like they have a damn good chance of winning a championship. Assuming they can win one before 2010, why would LeBron leave. The Knicks are going to have Chandler, DG, Nate, and maybe Lee, plus whoever we pick up in 2009. While that is some talent, that really is not enough talent to entice Lebron from a team that won a championship. We just traded a 20/10 scorer, who was playing the best basketball of his career, for essentially nothing. No draft picks, no young prospects, nothing. This seems an awful like the Orlando plan about 9 years ago, when they thought they would get Tim Duncan and it did not work. If we miss out on LeBron we are going to have to overpay to get some free agents in. Walsh is really putting all his eggs in one basket at this point and he is not even acquiring draft picks as a backup plan. BAsically, what bothers me the most about these moves is that no draft picks were involved. Even if we only picked up second rounders, that would have been something we could have parlayed into maybe a better spot in the draft.


If the Knicks have enough cap space to sign two max players, why wouldn't Lebron come here with a Bosh or Wade or Stoudemire?

A lineup of
Lebron
Bosh
Charlie Brown
Scooby Doo
& Popa Smurf is a better lineup than anything on Cleveland. Just having the space available for Lebron and an Olympic teamate should be appealing enough.

Two reasons: (a) we still need a PG, unless you think Duhon and Nate can lead a team to a championship; and (b) we still need a center, unless we get AMare, who can probably play center. Lebron gives you a SF and Bosh gives you a PF, but it is a longshot to get both. We have CHandler who I expect will be at a Caron Butler level by then and we may still have Lee and Nate as solid bench players, but we still are going to need a pg and a center and we have no draft picks to get those players unless we luck up in 2009.

Of course we would still need pieces, but the if you can start your team with a foundation of Lebron and Bosh, for crying out loud thats a championship foundation. Once you have said player set in stone (or conrete to continue my foundation analogy) then you can overspend as the Knicks have proven to do in the past. But this time, you are overspending to find the final piece for a championship (pg. cneter etc...and BTW, with Lebron and Bosh, you dont necessarily need Chris Paul to run the point or Yao to man the post). All of a sudden, Wilson Chanlder looks that much better next to Lebron and Bosh. Duhon becomes better. With Lebron and Bosh, you can overspend for that center who only plays defense because he might mbe the final piece wee need to advance to the championship.

Think about it, how good would Rondo and Perkins look on this current team right now? Yet, next to KG, Pierce and Ray, they are apart of a championship starting lineup.

Don't forget, Steve Nash! I believe he is also a FA in 2010, and though he might be older, I bet he will still be effective and he would definitely come to NY for less money to play here for his old coach & possibly bring a title here.
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11/22/2008  10:05 AM
I wouldn't discount the possibilities of Walsh having a few more moves left. It would have been nice to get a few draft picks out of those deals, but we didn't and atleast now we will have the cap space that we could only wish for just one day ago. These moves were huge and Walsh's patience paid off in that we didn't get even one bad contract in return. I hope we can get draft pick's for Lee and Nate.

As far as losing some offense, we are bringing in a couple of good players who can shoot, score, attack the basket and play defense. Sure we lost a few offensive points but we also moved two of our worst defenders. If we move Lee, we might even have five players on the court at the same time who can defend. I can't wait to hear the Garden chant DEFENSE and the team respond with a few stops.

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11/22/2008  10:18 AM
Posted by Elite:

i agree that we should have got draft picks also but honestly it seems as if we have more than enough to entice Lebron. He wants to come to new york. He makes it pretty obvious

Well, we really don't have enough right now in terms of the players, but the fact that Walsh made this trades so early in the season tells you he knows it takes more than cap space, it takes nice pieces to make those kind of star players to sign here. That's why I believe he is far from done this season. He will make a couple of moves to get the right pieces, either this season or next season. But he will have a solid team. We really have half the job done with guys like Chandler, Lee and Nate. Danillo is a huge piece and when he comes back and shows his talent he will become another core player. With the draft coming and the acquisition of some picks, we will have enough to make Lebron and Bosh or Amare sign with us. And Nash too :D
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11/22/2008  10:33 AM
has anyone noticed that Cle will also have max cap space and nothing will be stopping them from getting Bosh or whoever else to come and play WITH Lebron in Cle?

I am very happy we freed up space and did so without hurting our future but Lebron coming here is about a 10% chance
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11/22/2008  10:34 AM
10% WTF? How did you arrive at that?
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11/22/2008  10:56 AM
Posted by fishmike:

has anyone noticed that Cle will also have max cap space and nothing will be stopping them from getting Bosh or whoever else to come and play WITH Lebron in Cle?

I am very happy we freed up space and did so without hurting our future but Lebron coming here is about a 10% chance

10% is a bit too slim. In any case, if he doesn't want to come here that's fine. I'll be more than happy to have Wade. Obviously, he's less talented than LBJ, but he knows what it takes to win a ring, and I think he's a little more clutch than James, he's proved that.
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11/22/2008  10:57 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

10% WTF? How did you arrive at that?
well, only one franchise player in the prime of his career has left to go to another team via FA and thats Shaq. So based on NBA history its less than 10%. However Lebron is a Yankee fan so it goes up a bit

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11/22/2008  11:24 AM
Lebron wants to be the first NBA billionaire. He's might get 20 mil more over the contract with Cleveland. But imagine how much more advertising money he gets when he signs with NYC. This could be the world stage for him. David Stern wants him here. Madison Ave wants him here. Him being on a new team in general makes him more exciting to everyone, which means more $$$. This is a business to him, and the Knicks are the best business for him.

And if the Knicks have room, then Lebron gets to choose who plays with him. Imagine the power he has then. The center of the basketball universe with the league BEGGING for a good team, or back to the mistake by the lake.
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