Posted by TMS:

& how smart are u by continuing to pin ur hopes on trades that netted us players like Marbury, Francis & Zach & hoping that way of doing things will someday bring us a championship? sorry, i think we've been there & done that enough times to know better... apparently some of you need it bashed into your brains a little more to finally get the point that it doesn't work.

Posted by oohah:

Posted by TMS:

& how smart are u by continuing to pin ur hopes on trades that netted us players like Marbury, Francis & Zach & hoping that way of doing things will someday bring us a championship? sorry, i think we've been there & done that enough times to know better... apparently some of you need it bashed into your brains a little more to finally get the point that it doesn't work.

The problem with your argument is you are handing me a thought process which is stupid, and that is not what I think.

So basically you are of the belief that there are only 2 paths:

Don't even worry about building a good team and wait for Lebron (or somebody) to miraculously deliver us a championship -- if we are lucky enough to land him which is a long shot anyway.

or

Make terrible trades.

Those are the choices, is that it?

oohah

no, the problem is ur not understanding what the plan for 2010 entails... working to be under the cap in 2010 while amassing & developing young talent in the process is what it entails... it entails giving urself options to target free agents or to make the types of blockbuster trades that have the potential of truly impacting ur franchise for the better... the other choice is to forego any of that in favor of making whatever trades we can right now for high priced players like we've been doing for a while now... think about what players we can realistically target right now... guys like Vince Carter, Gerald Wallace, Michael Redd perhaps? in your mind do u think throwing away the 2010 plan is worth it to get players like that? tell me dude, do u?

no, the problem is ur not understanding what the plan for 2010 entails... working to be under the cap in 2010 while amassing & developing young talent in the process is what it entails... it entails giving urself options to target free agents or to make the types of blockbuster trades that have the potential of truly impacting ur franchise for the better... the other choice is to forego any of that in favor of making whatever trades we can right now for high priced players like we've been doing for a while now... think about what players we can realistically target right now... guys like Vince Carter, Gerald Wallace, Michael Redd perhaps? in your mind do u think throwing away the 2010 plan is worth it to get players like that? tell me dude, do u?

Posted by TMS:

i have an idea... let's trade for Michael Redd & Vince Carter & put them next to Zach, & then watch this team end up right back where we are now in 2 years with no championships & trying to figure out how we're gonna dump those contracts again... that oughta be fun.

Posted by CrushAlot:

I think Detroit, NJ, and Cleveland will all be players. The fact is that it is a concern when this seems to be managements only plan and it may not workout. However, this team may have struck out with the sixth pick in the draft so rebuilding that way may not be a good option either.

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Posted by anrst:

we can still get Durant or Paul in '10 or '11 or whenever they're free.

2011 is not the issue, we're gonna have cap space regardless if we stand pat & do nothing or we make trades to get under the cap in 2010 (unless of course we go the Isiah route & add another 2 or 3 bad contracts that extend beyond)